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Just wondering keido around how much time are you spending in total doing PE each day excluding piss pulls?

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Each day? Hmm... Well, let's see... 15 min heat total, 10 min stretching, 20 min jelqing is about 45 minutes -- I've gotta let my heating pad warm up too, that takes about 5 minutes to get it nice and hot, then there's some lag time, so I'd say about an hour tops right now. Oh, but I forgot edging! Add at least 20 min on to that, so an hour and a half minimum then. Whew yeah, that's a lot of time.


Quick update: My EQ has improved this morning. I'm going to take today off too, but I will probably start my 2 on / 1 off on Monday.

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Got this great erection I had to measure today - 7.5" BPEL x 5.375" EG. My EQ's been boosted with this time off (nearly 48 hours now) and I've made some gains. Also measured my BPFSL at 8", which is interesting since my BPEL has always gone up with BPFSL in the past. Is this because I'm doing a more smooth muscle oriented routine now? Does this mean my BPEL is going to catch up to my BPFSL? I'm curious to find out! I'm wondering what effect a 2 on / 1 off routine will have on my gains. If I don't gain after 30 days I think I'll do a 5 on / 2 off.

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I think that 7.5" might have been a faulty measurement or something (sometimes my glans swells and can give me some extra on the ruler), anyway I was only 7.25" - 7.375" today with a very nice EQ. Did my 2 days in a row, taking tomorrow off. I've decided to make some minor changes: I'm holding each stretching rep for 1 min and only doing one rep instead of multiple sets of 30 seconds because I keep losing track of how many reps I've done - also, when I count 30 seconds manually I tend to be off by 10-20 seconds sometimes so I may be doing more stretching then I'm supposed to. BPFSL still measures at 8". My EQ, from what I can tell, seems to be improving more and more with this smooth muscle oriented routine, as well as having those days off. Depending on how I react to a 2 on / 1 off I may try a 3 on / 1 off.

So it'll be:
Set 1:
SD, SD-Left, SD-Right (1 min, 1 min, 1 min)
Set 2:
SO, SO-Left, Left, SO-Right, Right (1 min, 1 min, 1 min, 1 min, 1 min)
Set 3:
SU, SU-Left, SU-Right (1 min, 1 min, 1 min)

which is 11 minutes.

I measured that 5.375" EG increase though so I think that's correct. I'm going to do slower, stronger jelqs at around 75%-90% erection level from now on.

20 min Jelqing (80-95% erect).

This week:
MTWHFSS
Next week:
MTWHFSS
repeat.

I'm also cutting out the warm down at the end of my routine and just doing some ballooning/engorging for a bit, I go for longer sessions if I feel in the mood.

So my routine looks like this:
5 min Heat, 11 min Stretching, 5 min Heat, 20 min Jelqing, ?? min Engorging

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Week 1(Mar29-Apr4): 11 min stretch, 20 min Jelq
Week 2(Apr5-Apr11): 12 min stretch, 22 min Jelq
Week 3(Apr12-Apr18): 14 min stretch, 25 min Jelq
Week 4(Apr19-Apr25): 16 min stretch, 28 min Jelq
Week 5(Apr26-May2): 18 min stretch, 31 min Jelq
Week 6(May3-May9): Off *
Week 7(May10-May16): 14 min stretch, 25 min Jelq
Week 8(May17-May23): 16 min stretch, 28 min Jelq
Week 9(May24-May30): 18 min stretch, 31 min Jelq
Week 10(May31-Jun6): 20 min stretch, 35 min Jelq
Week 11(Jun7-Jun13): 22 min stretch, 39 min Jelq
Week 12(Jun14-20): Off

If I haven't made any gains after this I'll be taking an extended break from PE to decondition, probably months-long. During that time I'll probably do ballooning and stamina exercises to see if I can beat my premature ejaculation. My routine is based on a progression of 10% weekly, rounded up. Focusing more on the smooth muscle right now instead of the tunica as my limiting factor.

* If I haven't made gains by now on a 2 on / 1 off I will try a different rest day scheme. I don't know what it will be right now because I can't decide whether to try more rest days or less.

I am going to do my girth work (jelqing) first, followed by my stretching exercises and then, to return blood flow to the penis, ballooning after stretching. I will balloon for a minimum of 10 minutes, but will likely go longer than that.

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Measured at 7.375" BPEL today... pushed it up to 7.5", but I'm not going to count that until I get it as a consistently easy measurement like the 7.375" today. I'll be doing my routine later tonight...

* Also I want to make a note here that I'm not doing kegels any longer, instead I'm doing aswini mudras. I want to see if this helps me with control over involuntary BC/PC clenches during edging so that I can last longer.

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Keido, I am so pulling for you man (not literally, of course ).

I guess I am supposed to remind you every now and then to be patient . Your log is such a great read. I love it!

Wtf is an aswini mudras? Sounds like a type of dance.

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Aswini mudras are basically a yoga pelvic floor exercise focusing more on the sphincter & perineum as the source of clench factor than the BC muscle which is used in kegels. I can feel some pull on the BC muscles, very slight, so I'm kinda curious to see what that will do in the long run, but most of the traction is around the perineum.



Session went fairly well today. I did my stretching second, but I found that even after edging my flaccid isn't as plump as it is going from jelqing into edging, so I'm going to switch up and do stretching first again. Might just be a personal preference, but I like the mental boost I get from that plumper flaccid post-jelq. I sort of like the idea of creating tissue damage with stretching and then filling it with blood through jelqing, lol. I have no idea if that's even possible.

Also I think my jelqing at real high erection level (95%) didn't give me enough expansion, so I'm going to focus more around the 75-85% erection level to get the best possible expansion from slow jelqs.

I was thinking, depending on how things go, I may add in some more advanced exercises after the following 12 weeks of basics, just to mix things up.

Tunica-oriented exercises:
Double Tunica Stretch
Bundled Stretches
V Stretch
Inverted V Stretch
A Stretch
Bundled Double Tunica Stretch
Tunica Tugs
* the bundled stretches are supposed to help with girth as well, apparently.

Girth-oriented (more smooth muscle oriented) exercises:
Jelq Squeeze
Slow Squash Jelqs
Compressor Squeezes
Uli / Holds
Orange Bends

anyway that's what I can think of off the top of my head, heh. If gains come I may just stick with an ever progressing load of stretching/jelqing though. Advanced exercises might be kind of fun to mix things up though, so I don't get too bored.

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Tested out some bundled stretches today. Did my routine in the bath, 200 wet jelqs (slow & hard) and 11 min stretching. I'm going to switch to bundled stretches on all of my stretching from here on out to see if I get a better stretch from it. My penis does seem much looser & pliable afterward, so I think it has a positive effect.

Tomorrow is an off day. PI's are all good, etc.

I think I'm gonna start ballooning with my Fleshlight without ejaculating afterward. I'm doing ballooning mostly for premature ejaculation, but any help with size gains will be welcomed, so I think using the Fleshlight will be better for me in the long run. I notice I use a pretty rough grip when I go with my hands, generally, so I think the Fleshlight will help with that problem.

I think doing my exercises around 3/4 woody give me the best results, since my tunica seems less resistant; my penis seems more cooperative, it just feels better.

Another fun stretching exercise I may try at some point: Bundled Sock Stretches.

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Gonna test light/moderate soft grip and slow, slow jelqing tomorrow (3/4 wood). I may work up to using the jelq device moderately/lightly with very, very slow reps (30+ seconds). I'd do this primarily to gain in width (actual width, not girth), assuming that the jelq device would increase my width. Would I have to jelq the top and bottom or the sides to gain in width...? hmm.

Anyway I was reading some threads today and this guy mentioned that he never gained with the jelq device until he started doing a light grip and slow reps (he'd been squeezing as hard as he could in the past) - I think I fall into this too, since I've tried choking the hell out of my dick for girth gains and tend to just give myself an injury and no gains that way, so I believe that working up my jelqing strokes with a moderate/light grip for ever-longer periods for the greatest expansion will do the trick for me. I think that this may be easier to do with the jelq device simply for the benefit of my achey hands, but I don't know which one will give me the best gains.

7.375 x 5.25" measurement today, seemed to have lost that .125" from before... I think going back to the lighter/moderate jelqing with slower strokes to build up pressure will get it back for me.

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I may try a 3 on / 1 off and see how I react to it... I sort of feel that I'm underworking right now. My EQ is good, but not quite as top notch as it has been when I first began this routine (did 5 on / 2 off with that). I think my current gain may have been from that 5 on / 2 off stint that I did, also I've lost the .125" off of my EG so I think it's an issue of underworking. Perhaps I'll work up to a 5 on / 2 off?

Session tomorrow:
Stretching : Bundled (720 degrees) : SD, SD-Left, SD-Right : SO, SO-Left, SO-Right, Left, Right : SU, SU-Left, SU-Right, repeat SD (for 12 min total - 1 min holds)
Jelqing : 22 min : very slow, moderate/light grip, going for maximum expansion
Testing out a 3 on / 1 off
SMTWHFS

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Changing some things up with my stretching:
1 min holds, in 4 directions: SO, Left, Right, SU. So I'll be doing 3 sets of 1 min holds in each direction to total 12 min this week. I will not be doing these stretches bundled. I will be using a moderately intense pull on these stretches, just enough to feel a stretch, but no harder than that.

I have also decided to start kegeling again - 30 second holds, whenever I think about doing them & also when I do my ballooning. I'm going to work up to 60 sec+ holds.

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Did my routine a bit early today. Tested out the Jelq Device, but again I didn't get a very good expansion from it (in comparison to my hands). I'm going to continue using my hands, then, since I really feel that the Jelq Device is inadequate in comparison. I might try a modified Jelq grip that mimics the Jelq Device's rollers (horizontal V grip?) to see if that works width at some point. This could be because of my state of arousal while using the jelq device - it's much easier for me to keep that appropriate erection level with my hands as opposed to the jelq device. In the future, if I'm aching for width, maybe I'll do a jelq device only routine for a few months to see if it increases width, but right now I'm going to go with my hands because I KNOW they work for me.

Oh, I did ballooning with my Fleshlight today... didn't keep track of time ... but I hit 7.5" BPEL x 5.25" EG afterward, pretty neat. I think I'll measure after using the Fleshlight from now on, since that seems to get me to that 100% erection level easier than just using my hands. Fun stuff.

Day 1/3
- experimental stretching, testing out bundled, V stretch, A stretch, etc.; seeing what gave the best stretch (probably around 10 min)
- 22 min Jelqing with hands (5 min) and then Jelq device (17 min), didn't get as good of an expansion from the jelq device as from hand jelqing. During hand jelqing noted that my glans got very purple with the slow jelqs & light grip - I'm not sure if that's a good thing or not. I stopped jelqing after that happened and massaged my glans for a bit and they went back to normal. Also to note my glans was actually a bit cold to the touch as well. Given this I was actually considering breaking my jelqing up into sets of say 5 min jelqing + some squeezes or something, sort of a super setting of girth exercises so I can get fresh blood in there once in awhile. Makes me wonder if super-long jelqing sessions without breaks could be detrimental...? Perhaps.

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I've always thought about ordering a Fleshlight for stamina purposes, but I'd feel so...perverted using it...

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Can't help you there (I'm a bonafide pervert), but I gotta say the thing's pretty awesome. It takes a good lube to have the fullest experience (I recommend Liquid Silk or MAXIMUS).