I guess I should just say that I have added Gingko Biloba to my daily supplement routine and over the last week, my EQ has been the best its ever been. I'm now taking zinc, gingko, and a multi-vitamin. I'm trying to add as I go.
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6 MONTH UPDATE:
I haven't been updating regularly, but have thrown in some notes. On Monday, I will have been doing consistent PE for six months. I have a few free minutes so I'm gonna give some summary on my last month and most recent findings/thoughts. Caution: This may be long winded.
PE Workout... I have been working out consistently for all six months, short of a 4 day layoff after some annoying aching. I have been consistent, BUT flexible. I shoot for a 2 on / 1 off approach, but don't cry if life gets in the way. I have taken as much as two days off in a row a handful of times, but if that happens, I try to PE three days in a row. It's more art then science.
My workouts have remained the same for the most part. I've dabbled in clamping, pumping, and squeezes. However, I come back to the same workout, just with increased intensity. I'm still warming up for ten minutes (rice sock), stretching in 5 different directions (Up, Down, Left, Right - 70 seconds each, then outward and in circles for about 2 minutes), then jelqing for 100 strokes.
I've increased my erection level after making great length gains to start concentrating more on my lagging girth gains. I think it has helped a bit, but I am definitely a slower girth-gainer. My jelqs are now half and half underhand OK jelqs, and UJ's. I switch it up. One of the things I've enjoyed doing is a UJ, holding the grip below the glans, then using the other hand to OK jelq and watching my veins nearly burst out of my skin. I'm figuring that after a few months of this, my girth HAS GOTTA increase. *This is a fine line between pain and pressure though, so I have been very careful to not overdo this and cause injury.
PE and sexual health related thoughts... My EQ has never been better. So far this month, my woman has had sex with me 35 times. She has made me orgasm at least a dozen times besides that. We have been together almost three years. This is admitedly an above average month. I usually average about 40 orgasms with her per month (she actually keeps track on her calendar, not me). Our sex averages between 20-90 minutes. Most sessions go about 35-40. I'd say about 5 times, they go for 5-10 minutes as its usually the second time of the night and she has had too much wine to "come" so she just lets me have her real quick before bed. The 90 minute sessions probably happen 2-3 times per month when our kids are at their other parents' for the weekend, so don't go thinking I'm too much of a stud.
Much to the contrary of a lot of forum members, I think all the sex has INCREASED my gains. Everyone talks about not turtling and keeping their penises full as long as possible. I have A LOT of sex. I am erect a ton! More than I ever was before meeting her by like tenfold... for real. In my experience, I would say edging is amazing for gains. I think the problem is masturbation. If you start to edge, its gotta be worthwhile if you are going to orgasm. You can't just be done in 5 minutes. It will zap you of your motivation to do it again. People need to make sessions last. Whether its sex, masturbation, edging, whatever. I don't think its the act of orgasm that limits gains. I think its the repurcussions of lack of motivation. *Would I edge every night for 40 minutes? Hell no. But sex is a greater motivator. So yeah, I'm a lucky asshole. I know that. But from my experiences, I've gained the wisdom. If she broke up with me, I'd try my balls off to edge every night for the amount of time that we would usually spend being intimate. For the record, I'd probably fail, but for information's sake, that's my advice.
Actually, for the record, she is the love of my life whether we have all this sex or not, so if she broke up with me I'd probably become depressed and stop touching my genitals altogether. Let's remain positive though!
Porn watching... This has been a struggling battle. I have definitely cut down. There is just something about the laziness factor that keeps me coming back to it for my jelq sessions. For a while, I had porn down to once per week, but now I'd say I'm jelqing to it 33% of the time. I think if I can just bite the bullet and eliminate the old saved stuff I have on my computer, I could finally nip this in the bud. I don't have internet in my apartment, so that would do the trick. I will save that goal for a later date though. Maybe once I completely conquer this six pack in my abdominal region, that will be my next self-improvement venture.
Water consumption... Water is the building block of EVERYTHING. I have been consistent in drinking at least a gallon of it every day for a few months now. My body is transforming, both physically and penilely (that's a new word). In America at least, I think water is one of the most taken for granted necessities we have. People should take more advantage of it.
Protein consumption... I have been trying to average about 1 gram of protein per pound of body weight. High protein diets (or lifestyles) have a hundred benefits. It is the building block of muscle, which I am trying to gain (both on my person, and on my penis in the form of smooth muscle). Whether protein affects the penis or not, doesn't matter to me. I just say... it can't hurt. Other than that, protein in all of your meals, snacks will force you eat better, and hopefully less processed carbs that will suck the energy right on out of you. And be honest, since this is a penis form... If you have no energy, are you really gonna feel like edging for a while after your PE workout, or are you just gonna knock one out real quick and go to bed, or veg on the couch, or go eat something else unhealthy now that your insulin levels have spiked?
Empty calorie consumption... I'm not a die-hard nutritionally elite eater. Having three kids, two practical step-kids, and America's gross overindulgence of yummy processed food at my fingertips leads me down the wrong path from time to time. I am just glad that I have got it under control. I don't beat myself up anymore over eating junk food. I definitely limit it though. For whatever reason, I've adopted the cliche... "My body is my temple." Whenever I eat, I tell myself this. This has saved me from junkfood binges a good dozen times weekly... haha. For whatever reason, that phrase is working for me. One of the only things we can really truly control in this world is our "person." We own our souls, but our body is ours to control. For me, freedom is found in building it to be better despite my growing age. *I don't like getting towards my mid-30's. It sucks, actually. I want to be as healthy and happy as possible forever. I'm going to fight the losing battle with age every step of the way.
Supplements... I've learned to slow down my supplement intake, and have just recently added in a new one. When I first found the 5 G's and any info that would tell me I can increase my load size, or my erection, I bought it... took it all, then felt like I was gonna die from nausea. I am in love with the idea of the five G's. I also like a few other supplements... multi-vitamin, L-arginine, L-Lysine, Yohimbe, Chromium Picolinate, Selenium, Zinc, and Lecithin. That's a lot of freaking pills. I want to work up to maybe 5-6 per day, and constantly be cycling in and out new ones.
As it stands, I'm up to three. I take a multi-vitamin, zinc, and gingko biloba. I take each one with a meal, saving zinc for my largest meal so I don't keel over in a vomitous rampage. When I added gingko last week, my EQ sky-rocketed. I don't think its some miracle supplement or anything, but maybe its just the introduction of something new. Shit... maybe its a placebo-effect, but I am thrilled nonetheless. I think I will add something new in every few weeks, then start cycling. My theory: Keep my body guessing and keep my rock-hard erections.
Workout... I'm starting P90X, week 9 tomorrow. I haven't followed it to a "T." I don't work out six days a week. I wish I could, but I just can't. I don't beat myself up over it anymore. That said, my body looks a million times better than it did a few weeks ago. I am already in great shape, but now I'm in even better shape. I look to keep getting better. If you aren't familiar with P90X, it is an awesome workout plan. It is strict, commonsense exercising in a pretty boxed-up package. The principals and workouts are anything ANYONE could do on their own. P90X is not a miracle; just a very good regimented product, which is why I turn to it. I have too many interests and things going on elsewhere, and I get sidetracked too easily and end up working out only three times per week. P90X is designed to work me out six times, but I get it in five times per week. Over the course of a year, that's an extra 100 days I will work out. So it works for me, hence my loyalty to the program.
That's a basic summary of my last six months and my goal-oriented activities. Please feel free to discuss or ask me any questions. PEGym is an amazing place, with amazing purpose-driven people. I enjoy giving back. I have triumphed, and I have failed. And I'm willing to discuss both if it helps someone else out, the way I have been helped.
Sincerely,
Bob8-1-10 11-1-11
BPEL - 6.125" 8.25"
BPSFL - 6.562" 8.25"
MEG - 4.75" >5.25"
NBPEL - 5.75" 7.5"
BEG - 5.5"+ 5.75"
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I've had either a thrombosed vein or swollen lymph vessel since Wednesday. PE'd Thursday and Friday, and had sex like 8-9 times this weekend on top of sex Thursday and Friday. Well, needless to say, it hasn't gone away. It doesn't hurt. From the research I've done, it should go away in 1-2 weeks. But who knows since I can't seem to stop my PE obsession, and I doubt I'm going to go cellubite anytime soon. I might have to bite the bullet and call it quits for another few days, but I'm gonna give it a few days to go away.8-1-10 11-1-11
BPEL - 6.125" 8.25"
BPSFL - 6.562" 8.25"
MEG - 4.75" >5.25"
NBPEL - 5.75" 7.5"
BEG - 5.5"+ 5.75"
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Swelling has still not subsided. I've kept up with PE and sex. I don't know if its getting any better. I didn't PE yesterday, but had sex twice, probably for about a total of an hour. ...And it was the hard-kids aren't home type of sex so that couldn't have been any good for it. I'm still hanging on, hoping for a miracle but I think I'm gonna have to take the plunge and take a few days off. Man, if only it weren't time for her period. That would certainly help. Ugh8-1-10 11-1-11
BPEL - 6.125" 8.25"
BPSFL - 6.562" 8.25"
MEG - 4.75" >5.25"
NBPEL - 5.75" 7.5"
BEG - 5.5"+ 5.75"
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2/14/11
Swelling of my injury is still there, but the knotty feeling inside seems to be disappearing. I've been PEing lightly, but sex has not slowed. I think I'm doing ok with recuperating.
She makes more and more comments about it being "scary" or big. I think I'm getting to the point where I need her to be warmed up pretty well if I'm going in deep. This is a lot of fun!
My last official measurement was 1/6, so its been about five weeks. I'm actually not that obsessed with wanting to measure it, so that's good. I'm gonna try to make it three months before measuring again so that I hopefully see some kind of increase. I swear it looks bigger, or at least veinier, so that's promising. This could be the power of positive thought though. Either way, the confidence is waaaaay up.
My diet is really getting in check and although I'm not perfect, I'm getting there. I'm definitely looking leaner and my energy is rising. By Spring I should have a solid six pack with the bottom ones showing. I'm really hopeful my NBPEL is the recipient gainer from this.
I'm starting week 11 of P90X today.8-1-10 11-1-11
BPEL - 6.125" 8.25"
BPSFL - 6.562" 8.25"
MEG - 4.75" >5.25"
NBPEL - 5.75" 7.5"
BEG - 5.5"+ 5.75"
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Damnit... I had a long drive last night, so I decided to try some extended stretching. The most I ever do is 7-8 minutes before my jelqing. Last night, I stretched for 30 minutes, switching hands, in all different directions... no rhyme, no reason. Today, I have a pulled "something" (ligament maybe) on my right side. It is throbbing. Not bad, but definitely there. I think I'm gonna have to miss out on a PE workout today. Shit. I'll have to squeeze one in either Saturday or Sunday. I was planning on taking off the weekend since I'd be with the woman both days. ...Maybe just some maintenance stretching and 20 or so jelqs in the shower each time. We'll see how its feeling.8-1-10 11-1-11
BPEL - 6.125" 8.25"
BPSFL - 6.562" 8.25"
MEG - 4.75" >5.25"
NBPEL - 5.75" 7.5"
BEG - 5.5"+ 5.75"
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Four days off. My penis feels back to normal. I'm ready to start back up tonight. I hate taking that long off, but I really strained something in that extended stretching session. I learned my lesson.
I'm gonna post a full update sometime this week. I have a lot of new thoughts, experiences and such.8-1-10 11-1-11
BPEL - 6.125" 8.25"
BPSFL - 6.562" 8.25"
MEG - 4.75" >5.25"
NBPEL - 5.75" 7.5"
BEG - 5.5"+ 5.75"
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I just wanted to make a note that for the last week I have been jelqing about 60%ish. But what I've been doing is holding my grip at the base and the glans, doing a squeeze, then a slight bend until I see the veins popping. Then I continue with my jelq. I'm sure there's a name for this, but I just kinda figured it out on my own. It's gotta contribute to some girth gains! ...Time will tell. I'm gonna keep it in my routine.8-1-10 11-1-11
BPEL - 6.125" 8.25"
BPSFL - 6.562" 8.25"
MEG - 4.75" >5.25"
NBPEL - 5.75" 7.5"
BEG - 5.5"+ 5.75"
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Still PEing religiously. I have a new jelqing technique that is a bit intense, but should work. I just need to find the "sweet spot" as I overdid it last night, resulting in 3 small and one larger blood blisters on my head.
I'm looking forward to measuring and sharing my new stats in April. I'm still growing, just slowly.......8-1-10 11-1-11
BPEL - 6.125" 8.25"
BPSFL - 6.562" 8.25"
MEG - 4.75" >5.25"
NBPEL - 5.75" 7.5"
BEG - 5.5"+ 5.75"
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APRIL 6, 2011 MEASUREMENTS
BPEL - 7.875"
BPSFL - 8.00"
MEG - 5.1875"
NBPEL - 7.125"
Here are my starting stats, and my last measurement from three months ago. This will show you that I had made huge gains in my first few months, but I have slowed tremendously since my last measurement three months ago. To be clear, I am ECSTATIC that I am still growing.
August 1st Jan 6th
BPEL - 6.125" 7.625"
BPSFL - 6.562" 7.75"
MEG - 4.75" 5.125" (a hair less)
NBPEL - 5.75" 6.78"
I grew in every measurement, and one that I never bothered writing down before.
BEG - 5.50" (a hair more)
My base girth had always been the same as my mid-girth. I never bothered adding it to my stats and simply chalked it up as being the shape of my penis. Some have wide bases, some have baseball bats. I had a symmetrical shape all the way down. Well, NOT anymore! Sometime in February, I noticed my base getting veinier. I didn't bother measuring; I just noticed a change from time to time. Then as the weeks progressed, I noticed that I looked fuller at the base even when hard just for sex (not just after a workout). I don't know why my base girth decided to skyrocket. I have been evolving my jelqing (more details coming), and this is about the only thing I can contribute it to, although I don't understand the science behind it. My plan has hardly changed in quantity, yet my focus and intensity has changed. Below is my current routine. I have been doing this for about two months, varying it a little bit every time.
10 minute rice sock warm up
This is the same as always. This will never change. If I ever get rich and can lay around, I'll warm up longer, but never shorter. I agree with concept that warmed up tissue can be stretched better and think anyone not warming up long enough is doing themselves a huge disservice.
Stretches
This hasn't changed much for me on a daily basis. I will start a stop watch and do 70 seconds up, down, left, right, then take it to the 7 minute mark while pulling outward, perpendicular to my body and circling in all different directions. Seven minutes is my only amount of stretching on workout days. I stretch for a longer period of time (about 20 minutes) once per week during a long drive.
Jelqs
This is the sweet spot of my workout. I don't just do 100 quick OK jelqs like I used to. That may have been enough in the beginning. Here's the kicker though... I still only do 100 quantity jelqs, I just perform them a bit different. I employ two grips: The underhand OK grip, and the overhand grip used for a UJ where I can grip deep at my base and run my fingers up my CC (?). My first ten, I'll flip the grips however I need to so that it feels good enough to get to semi erect before #10. I'm always about 60% by #10. Then for the remaining 90, I'll do them at a ratio of about 8 UJ's : 2 OK's per 10. EVERY one, I'll squeeze at the base while keeping it clamped at the top. I'll wait the 1-3 seconds (depending on erection level) to see my veins pop, then I'll proceed with my jelq. Here's a sample set of 10 so that you can get an idea of what I do.
1. Right hand UJ, hold at top...
2. Left hand UJ, squeeze til veins bulge, proceed, hold at top.
3. Right hand OK and proceed jelq all the way to top, while keeping it clamped (these hurt a tiny bit as I'm forcing the blood with nowhere to go.
4. Left hand UJ, squeeze one finger at a time, while squeezing the OK at the top and walking the fingers together. *This is the best squeeze I do, then releasing the OK at the top and performing the UJ.
5. Right hand UJ, hold at top.
6. Left hand OK, and do the same as step 3.
7. Right hand UJ, following step 4.
8. Left hand UJ, with the squeeze.
9. Right hand UJ with squeeze.
10. Left hand UJ with squeeze.
...Reapply lube every 14-20 jelqs. I'll hold a clamped OK at the base and masturbate for feeling to bring the erection back up to a desirable level. As I squeeze, I'm always pulling from my body to keep the stretch the whole time. By the end of my workouts, my hand strength is weakening, and there is lactic acid in both my forearms.
I'll finish my edging with ejaculation for about ten minutes.
Then I'll shower (warm down). I kinda think a cool down might be a better idea, but I just don't have the time for it right now.
Goals/Plans
I don't have a size goal, per se. I'll take whatever I can get. I guess my goal or plan is to remain consistent. Especially with the warm weather coming, I need to be focused and continue to get my 4-5 workouts per week. I think that if I keep evolving my workout just tiny bits, I should continue to see some sort of gains. As of this writing, I see no halt in my progress. I feel that I'm stressing my tissues enough, but not too much, in every workout and I should see continued growth. I will also continue to cut the fat off my body, which should aid in my NBPEL measurements. If you look, you can see that I lost some of my fat pad, as the measurements grew more for NBPEL than BPEL. I still have a few pounds to lose, and that will hopefully equate to a smaller fat pad.
I hope I was clear with what I've been up to. Please feel free to ask any questions. I don't update every day like I used to, but I am still a commited PE'er and am willing to share my experiences with anyone here.
Bob
Last edited by bobberick; 04-06-2011, 08:17 AM.8-1-10 11-1-11
BPEL - 6.125" 8.25"
BPSFL - 6.562" 8.25"
MEG - 4.75" >5.25"
NBPEL - 5.75" 7.5"
BEG - 5.5"+ 5.75"
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