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[Shambok Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Shambok]

Hey there guys

I'm not a complete newcomer to EQ but I'll still need plenty of guidance as the more I learn the more I realise I don't know. Also hoping to use this as a log but I admit that my work lifestyle is a bit hectic at times and could interfere, but I'll try my best.

My goal is an 8.0 for NBPEL and a 6.0 (shaft) for EG.

I'm already a decent size and not too self conscious, but am looking for more for confidence reasons - hence why I'm here . I've been PE'ing already for just shy of 3 months and I like to believe I gained around 0.4 to 1/2 an inch in length. But I have been a little haphazard in the structure of my routine by just adding on bits and pieces here and there. I fortunately did start quite slowly in the first month too and I think that did build some 'strength' in my penis in preparation for harder sessions.

But if anyone wants to give constructive criticism or guidance I'm all ears and willing to adjust my routine. I've started to actually feel a sort of fatigue lately with potential plateauing and am thinking I should slow down on the PE exercises or change the routine while resting more often?

My current stats are as follows:
BPEL: 7.7
NBPEL: 7.0
EG (shaft): 5.5

BPFL: 5.0
FG: 4.2

I also need to learn a lot about EQ. I think I could do with some improvement there and it may actually be quite important in my case - I have had some vein popping erections before (but not often enough) and I think I was also notably bigger at those times.


My current regime is as follows starting in the morning:

• 5+ minute warm up
• 100 Kegels (starting to add reverse kegels now and increase the number - just find it a little boring)
• Basic stretch starting off softly and then getting quite intense at the end. 4 Reps in all 5 directions
• I was starting to add a little bit of Internal Stretch here too.
• Flaccid Bend 4 times - start with 3 then go to 4 fingers.

In the evenings I then do the following:

• 5+ minutes warm up
• 100 Kegels
• Jelq for about 20 minutes+ with gel lubricant (I tend to enjoy this session)
• Edge about 4 times and try avoid climaxing at all

This might also have to change into solely evening PE'ing due to work demands this year.

I used to rest once every two days but started to push that up to once every three or four days. Maybe I should return to it. Today is oddly enough a rest day but I'm also open to guidance on how to improve the above routine?


I have picked up some good and neutral PI's too:

• Larger and notably more veins on my penis shaft
• Increased hang when flaccid
• Increased firmness when in the flaccid state
• Redness and slight red spots (neutral - maybe over exercise?)
• I do experience some turtling after workouts, but that also applies when I do general gym and cardio exercises like running and swimming so I'm not sure how to read that - Over exercise or a hard session? Odddly enough when I 'turtle' there seems to be more resistance from my penis to doing so and it seems more 'fleshy' in that state than before.

I had bad PI's too of feeling strained or tender in my groin. I also experienced small flashes of pain while PE'ing during two sessions but stopped them immediately.

Ok, that's a really detailed breakdown so I hope you're still reading - any guidance?

[Pirate Retired AdministratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Pirate]

First Congratulations on starting your log. I think that you will find it extremely useful.
Have you read any of the articles here on the site? Particularly, if you are interested in improving your EQ (erection quality) look at the Kegel and Edging articles.
Don't be in a hurry to cut down on your rest days. Personally, I have had my best results with doing PE only 3 or 4 days per week.

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Cool, Thanks as well Pirate. I suspected that I had reduced my rest days too much. I'll go back down to PE'ing for 4 days a week as you suggested.

I also woke up this morning having had a day's rest and my groin feels markedly improved while I had a stronger erection this morning than the past few days. I'm going to give it a rest today as well and then have good saturday and sunday PE'ing sessions.

I've read several of the articles but admittedly not as much as I should have on Kegels and EQ. I'll trawl through the archives for more of them.

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Made some changes to my routine after reading a bit on the forum and articles on the site. After the two day rest and the changes the session today also felt good. I personally felt fatigued afterwards as well as I'd also earlier done regular exercises but my there was no discomfort or turtling. My EQ was also very good towards the end of edging. I basically enjoyed it.

Did the following today:

• 10+ minute warmup
• 4 reps of stretches in all 5 directions with 30 second holds in gradually increasing intensity. Did a bit of an internal stretch on the last rep.
• Did 3 slow rotations clockwise and 3 anticlockwise
• 4 reps of Flaccid Bend in all 4 directions with 30 second holds
• 100 'Lambda' jelqs (5 second long jelq's)
• 100 'V' jelq's (5 second long jelq's)
• 100 Kegels (3 second sustains)
• 30 reverse kegels
• Edging for 20 minutes

It was quite an intense session as total time from start to finish was just over one and a half hours, but I do feel good downstairs. Still, I can only really do it over weekends. Due to personal and worklife demands weekday PE'ing sessions will probably need to be broken up into two sessions per day and/or maybe reduced in duration too.

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Congrats on your gain and welcome

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Repeated the session from yesterday but first swopped 50 Lambda Jelq's for OK Jelq's today.

Also did stretch holds for a longer 40 seconds duration and Kegel's at 5 second each. Edged for 21 minutes until I just couldn't hold it any longer after pulling back from the PONR 5 times before. Had a very strong ejaculation like kingpole's routine suggested would happen.

Took about an hour and 40 minutes to complete it so it'll have to be the weekend routine with less intensity on the two weekday sessions. Might up the duration of the Jelq's but lower their number too.

In terms of PI's I noticed another vein on the right hand side of the shaft is becoming more prominent and there were some faint stretch marks. I was horny as hell earlier in the day too (still a bit now as well) and there was no turtling or feeling of being strained after the session.

Tomorrow is a rest day but will also be 90 days since I started PE'ing. Here's to another 90 and more.

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Did the same today but had to break it up into two sessions. One morning and one in the evening.

The morning one consisted of a warmup, stretches, FB and rotations. The evening was a warmup and the balance.

It was quite tough as I had to push for 70% erections during the jelq's as I suspect I need to focus on the smooth muscle. However tomorrow is a rest day.

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Repeated the session from two days ago but had to take the stretch durations down to 30 seconds. Increased Kegel's to 10 second durations and reduced the number to 50. Reverse Kegels to 15 10 seconds durations.

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Damn bro thats an intense routine! As long as you're not feeling any pain or negative PI's then keep it up. In my opinion I'd take it easy considering you already have a sizeable dick, but thats just me

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Heh, thanks. I admit I'm not yet satisfied with my size as I'm looking for the legendary 8 x 6 too. A good flaccid hang won't be unwelcome either

I seem to also be coping well and even enjoyed todays heavy session where I reduced the number of Jelq's while increasing their durations proportionately to 10 seconds and did another 10 minute warmup between the FB's and Jelq's. But I'll keep it at this for the foreseeable future as it seems right.

I think the Kegels are really helping too as I had a stronger than normal EQ and another vein is gradually becoming more prominent. I'm also now taking some new supplements consisting of L-Arginine, L-Lysine, L-Carnitine and Zinc. I still need to get hold of some L-Glutamine.

Another heavy session awaits tomorrow, then a break on monday.

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Ok. Completed the session today.

As a yardstick to myself, here's what I'm doing now:

1. 10 minutes+ warmup
2. A little bit of additional loosening up
3. 4 sets of 5 direction stretches for 40 second durations
4. 3 clockwise and 3 anticlockwise rotations. 15 second durations per rotation
5. 4 Flaccid Bends with 4 fingers
6. Warmup again
7. 25 Lambda Jelq's - 10 second durations
8. 25 Conventional Jelq's - 10 second durations
9. 50 V Jelq's - 10 second durations
10. 50 Kegels - 10 second durations
11. 15 Reverse Kegels - 10 second durations
12. 20 Minutes Edging

Time taken is 1 hour, 40 minutes +

Taking L-Arginine, L-Lysine, L-Carnitine, Zinc and Multi-vitamin supplements.

Feeling quite tired afterwards. Rest day tomorrow.

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Did the weekday routine, which is essentially the above one broken into two and performed in one day. Did so by performing the 1 to 5 steps with 20 Kegels and 6 Reverse Kegels. Then did the balance later.

Felt a bit of strain on the stretches so have to watch that carefully if it recurs but didn't feel tired at the end. Flaccid Bend is otherwise becoming a little boring but I'll stick with it and give it a decent amount of time.

Got hold of L-Glutamine too. Might help with normal exercise recovery time too.

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Hmmm. Had a busy day so there was little time to do a full session, which is also just as well as I still felt a bit strained.

So I'm going to drop the intensity of one of the weekly sessions - probably that of Saturday's. I am likely indeed guilty of overtraining.

Otherwise I reduced the stretches and FB's durations to 20 seconds and did 50 10 second Jelq's in total. Just edged for 10 minutes because I was rushed but that oddly felt a little bit pointless as a result. However I maintained the number of Kegels. All of which is ultimately to maintain the routine.

I'm still quite happy that my EQ is notably stronger as a result of the Kegels.

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No PE'ing today but curiosity got the better of me and I decided to measure my flaccid state. I however had promised myself to be disciplined and only remeasure my erect state at the end of the month so that has to wait till then.

BPFL seems to have increased from 5.0'' to 5.2'', which is great. That also seems consistent with the fact I appear to be hanging a bit more whenever I glance at the bathroom mirror after a simple shower.

Any FG gains were however neglible so that's effectively zero. It's potentially disappointing since I am leaning towards girth focussed exercises (including 70%+ erections when Jelqing). I wonder though if this is an indication that I might potentially gain length more easily than girth?

It would however still be awesome if the EL gains are even half the amount of the FL gains at the end of the month but I'll have to wait and see.

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Well, curiosity got the better of me when I had morning glory today so I decided to take measurements of my erect length - next time no measurements whatsoever until the end of each month.

But wow - my erect changes mirrored the flaccid state ones. BPEL and NBPEL both increased by the 0.2 inch - which is an incredibly fast gain compared to the prior 3 months. So my BPEL is now 7.9'' and NBPEL is 7.2''. In total over the past 3 and 1/2+ months I've therefore gained 0.6 inches.

EG however also effectively didn't move, staying at 5.5'', although granted it's not even a month yet. But it does appear like I gain length much more easily than girth. I just hope I at least gain some girth before I reach my length goal, which seems very attainable.

The 7.9'' is awesome also because it's the big round 20cm's in metric terms. I of course still want to push onto and past the 8.0'' until I get an NBPEL of 8.0''. Maybe I can also bring that 0.7'' fat pad down to the 0.5',' that most guys here seem to have, with more cardio exercises.