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Congrats on your gains!!! Keep doing what you are doing I dont' see anything wrong with it even though it is too much for me. But everyone is different. Pretty soon you will get your goal before you know it. Btw I'm only doing PESG routine. Your log is very interesting to read will subscribe. Good luck on more gains!!!
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Thanks Danner. It is indeed a lot of hard effort - both in terms of physical exertion and finding the time to do so.
It's also adapted from kingpole's routine, with some tweaks and adjustments. I've been trying to pay some attention to TGC theory but kingpole's method is still the major constituent.
I forgot to mention in my excitement that I couldn't PE yesterday due to personal commitments. However I completed my full routine today after a normal exercise session beforehand, so I was quite bushed at the end from all the exertion. I adjusted my routine though with a second 10 minute+ warmup after the Flaccid Bends. I also did 20 Kegels and 6 Reverse Kegels simultaneously during each warmup, with the remaining balance done after the 3 Jelq's.
In terms of diet and supplements I've found that too much L-Glutamine makes my stomach ache a bit. Gonna reduce the dose despite taking it after general weight/cardio exercises. I'm also gonna cut down on the Zinc. That, and reducing red meat in favour of white meat seems to help my libido even though I thought doing so would be the opposite - perhaps I was having too much in my diet to begin with.Comment
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Today was a bit hectic so I had to steal moments to do PE'ing. Overall it was a bit fragmented by being over 3 sessions but at least I did almost everything except for 25 V Jelq's of the usual 50.Comment
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Ha I always felt a bit bored with flaccid bends. The brilliant thing about them is that you can do them almost anywhere at any time. Try this, right when you lay down in your bed do fowfers for a while, maybe 20-30 minutes while watching tv or something. Then do your flaccid bends. Its much easier than trying to fit them in a routine.Comment
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That might be an idea. I do usually take my time to get out of bed - I can't get enough sleep in this busy stage of life - I'm the guy who was always sleeping in late when everyone was up and about... and still am.
I otherwise did some good cardio today and afterwards felt aroused just by thinking about a particular woman. I became erect quite easily in the shower and I just have to make a note if I read this again in the future that when I looked in the mirror it was clear that I've never been as big as I am now at 7.9'' BPEL. I may be struggling to gain girth but the length gains, improved EQ and increased endurance are awesome. I've changed my mind about Kegels as well.
I might meantime go with a more moderate session tomorrow and another moderate one on saturday morning. I'm courting and 'something' might just happen on saturday night
. So I want to be in good shape in all regards even if it doesn't go that far.
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Tried out some fowfers. Felt a little weird as I got momentary sensations like my penis wasn't where it was supposed to be. But it does seem to hold a length and warms the penis up by cleverly using the groin area's own heat. So it's something worthwhile and I'll get used to it.
I ended up also actually doing a full session today but made some modifications. I'm first trying to take 15 minutes to warmup now and all the Jelq's went into the normal wet ones - then I can then observe the blood moving upwards towards the glans/meatus so much more easily while the veins on the shaft also swell more. I also personally maintain a stronger erection much more easily while doing so as compared to when doing V and Lambda Jeql's (everyone's different).
That's important as I really want to lean towards focussing on girth more and need at least a 70% erection for Jelqing then. Also, I didn't let myself ejaculate after edging so the erection was more persistent after the session.
I noticed that my groin area does sweat a bit from all the work like doing a workout at gym itself and while my groin feels comfortable I'm a little fatigued now as this was another 100 minutes plus from start to finish. This isn't easy and it can indeed be physically draining at times. But then it's like the saying goes: "Nothing worthwhile comes easy".
I've otherwise been reading up a little bit more on the forums and noticed the matter of cementing gains. I seem to have gained fast so I'll eventually need to go into a long maintenance regime once I'm satisfied enough with my gains, otherwise I could lose all of them.
However that did get me thinking about one unusual aspect of my family genetics insofar as we seem to be a bit more supple than most and might be able to manipulate our soft tissue more easily than others. One relative for example can do the splits with ease as well as hold their hands together behind their back and then subflux their shoulders to bring them over to in front of them without having separated their hands at any time. Another can lie on their stomach and slowly arch their back more and more to bring their feet over until they're on either side of their head.
I have some of that as I have 3 double jointed fingers but unfortunately it's also contributed to twice dislocating my shoulder and a subfluxed knee, mostly from rugby in high school. I just wonder if that has something to do with my quick gains relative to a lot of others in how my soft tissue can be manipulated more easily.Last edited by Shambok; 01-20-2011, 12:52 PM.Comment
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Did some bed fowfers again for 30 minutes in total when I was waking up this morning - they're rather nifty as my penis gets warmed up and a nice flaccid stretch while just lying in bed half asleep. I'm going to keep them in the routine particularly since they're so easy
Otherwise I did a lower intensity routine. I still did some additional warming up followed by stretches and FB holds, which were done for 15 seconds only each way. Then only 2 rotations each way and I limited the Jelq's to 25 at near full erection and 25 kegels. I also edged for the full 20 minutes but didn't ejaculate. I'll also still do some casual kegeling during the rest of the day.
It was quite light for me so I enjoyed it and I got an erection exceptionally easily. I've also got a great hang but that might be a bit of problem initially as I'm meant to do some road running now!Comment
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Did some bed fowfers again today for 30 minutes. Then did a full session. However I still did 15 minutes+ warmup with hot water even though the fowfers help with heating. I felt quite nicely warmed up and hot as a result. That's apparently NB for girth sessions.
I did reduce the durations of the 5 directional stretches from 40 to 30 seconds since I'd already gotten some sustained stretches from the fowfers. Still did three 20 second rotations clockwise and counter-clockwise as well.
I again made sure to maintain 70%+ erection at all times, sometimes reaching full erection, while Jelqing but never squeezing too hard with enough pressure to see the blood moving to the glans and the veins along the way bulging reasonably. I also went a tad slower on many Jelq's, sometimes counting to 12/14 seconds durations.
I meantime found that keeping a near full erection for the V-Jelq is not as hard as I thought but doing so for the Lambda Jelq is still difficult. So it looks like I'll be working with the normal Jelq and V Jelq. Otherwise I did the full edging, FB's and 10 second duration kegels session, with a little extra of fast 1 second on and off kegels bursts thrown in as an experiment - they do seem to give a small boost at times to erection strength a few moments after doing them but I'm not sure why.
So I'm going to continue focussing on getting my girth measurements to increase. My penis did feel fatter than otherwise after the session but I still need to give it time and more sessions. A month end measurement would be a better indicator of any success there.
Tomorrow is a rest day.Comment
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Last two days have been hectic with work while the Internet has been its old unreliable self. In any event I managed to do a full session yesterday.
But my hang is really looking good. I strongly suspect I've gained another 0.1'' in length and reached 8.0 BPEL. But I must only measure again in a few days time. Gah!.
Kegels are really important to me now. I'm seeing the benefits even in how strongly I'm peeing. I couldn't help notice at the urinals how I pee straight ahead and many other guys dribble. I have to note then that while I did come here for a bigger dick certain aspects of PE have also had real health benefits.Comment
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Performed a full session again today but didn't have time for bed fowfers ironically enough. Commitments demanded I get up early.
Really looking forward to some rest tomorrow evening.Comment
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I decided to take a measurement this morning and wow! Still no girth gains (sigh!) but I added another 0.2'' in length and have now hit 8.1'' BPEL! Measuring in cm's also confirms it at just over 20.5cm's!
It's both weird and awesome at the same time to think that I have an 8 inch dick now while I'm also amazed how much I've gained in this past month plus alone: 0.4''. That's the same as I gained in the prior three months in total. So 0.8'' gains in 4 months in total. If I get another month of similarly incredible gains it'll be amazing. I'm going to continue with the existing routine into February.
BPFL also increased by 0.2'' to 5.4'' and BPFSL has similarly increased to 8.5''. I am genuinely now also starting to feel like I'm big and noticed that when I sit down wearing some pairs of pants I've had for a while my crotch feels uncomfortably 'scrunched up', such that I have to push my dick to the side (thank goodness for boxers) when this wasn't the case at all before I started PE'ing. It just can be a little troublesome at work when other people are in close proximity when that discomfort hits and I need to adjust myself, but I'll accept this little downside for the upside.
Overall it looks like I add length easily but struggle with girth, although I won't say no to the length gains. So if I end up getting my length goal even without getting any girth gains it will still be awesome. I'm just a little confused as LOT theory and the smooth muscle/tunica theory haven't really seemed to be constraints for me. If anything kingpole's routine, which I've built mine around, has just simply worked (and worked very well at that) for me. The lack of girth gains just remains a mystery since I have been aiming for that. Maybe I need some conditioning of some sort and my body is putting all the gains into length for some reason.
Oh yeah, I also did a light session today at about 30% of a full one. Bed fowfers are awesome and I've increased the duration I hold each kegel for to 15 seconds. Although it's nothing for a single kegel it can get a bit tiring overall but I'll gradually get used to it.Comment
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Completed a full session starting with bed fowfers upon waking.Comment
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NICE so you're gaining length more eh?Comment
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Yeah, pretty much. It's admittedly weird to gain length so quickly and yet nothing for girth.
Did the bed fowfers, then warmup, stretches, rotations and flaccid bends with some kegels on tuesday but because of a lack of time I only got around to doing the second part of the usual routine of warming up again, jelq's, full kegels and edging today. Did some additional rotations just for measure.Comment
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Tried to start the routine again as I'm trying to now rather did mondays, wednesday, fridays and a weekend day because tuesdays and thursdays have become busy.
I did the bed fowfers and stretching but was experiencing notable discomfort, didn't feel good and started getting negative PI's like warning signs of potential pain and a weak erection, among others. So I canned the routine after that and rested again today. Erection strength is already better this evening and the slight discomfort level is reduced, so I'll see whether I'm good to go again tomorrow. But I'll probably do just a light session on the weekend even if I am.Comment
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