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Monday, September 24

Warm up > 25 Squeezes > 300 side-sides > Warm down

hehe, JP, I ran out of time. I have a new job that will prevent me from doing 3 sets of jelqs each day.
I've done the jelq free routine before and gained 1/4" from in in length. I may as well go back to it.

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Monday, September 24

Warm up > 25 Squeezes > 300 side-sides > Warm down

Wednesday, September 26

Warm up > 26 4-second Squeezes > 310 side-sides > 50 towel raises > Warm down

These squeezes are crap. I don't like them at all. They hurt my wrist, I don't get a lot of expansion in my dinky, and the dingdong twists a funny way.
I'm changing the girth portion to erect and flaccid bends. I really don't understand the difference between the slinky and erect bends.

Next workout will look something like this
warm up
3 flaccid bends (1 for each direction)
2 Erect bends (1 for each direction)
320 side-sides
towel raises
warm down

Soon, i'm going to apply traction wrapping as well.

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Friday, September 28

Warm up > 3 Flaccid Bends > 2 Erect Bends > 320 s2s > 60 towel raises > 3 minutes edging > warn down

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Saturday, September 29

60 minutes Biker Lock hang

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What's a biker lock hang?

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It's a passive stretcher BigAl recommended to me.
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It's a passive stretcher BigAl recommended to me.
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Talk about being creative. This is someting that I can definitely add to my routine.
Just one question though. It the rubber band comfortable or does it cut off circulation? ... OK I guess technically thats two questions.

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lol.

That's a very good question It shouldn't be on so tight that you're cutting off circulation, but I find my dick goes cold and blue if I don't give it breaks and massage. Today, I kept a rice sock on it to keep the heat high and the blood flowing. I didn't turn blue when I did it

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Thanks. I'm going to try it out as soon as I get some rubber bands.

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When the opportunity for partying and nearly guaranteed sex comes along, I usually duck and dodge. I can't explain it. Am I afraid of something? I've gone into things like that before and I usually wake up sad, rather than proud.


I'm the guy who wants a relationship ... granted, with 3 or 4 girls at a time, but I prefer it a little steadier. Or... do I? Maybe I just don't know what I want.


I'm not going to get into the sob story of my life, but I've spent most of it isolated from people, or torn away from the ones I loved. I was homeless at 14, in jail by 16. I was in and out of group homes and hospitals in between then and somewhere along the way, I decided I was the lone wolf.


I guess... I want to be wanted. I can get that without the sex. That's why the topic of confidence and personality are harrowing on my mind, because those are the people who are truly wanted in life. That is, people with confidence and a brilliant personality.


I want to volunteer with kids and the handicapped, learn how to become financially successful and then build communities in parts of the world that have no infrastructure. That is TONS more exciting than clubs, to me.
I want to build schools and wells, I want to invest in funds for environmental research, I want to support small farms.
I would be so much more proud of myself if I did any of this than if I banged that hot blond from the bar.
Fuck, and then some people have me questioning myself. Where the hell are your priorities?


Well, this drunk girl didn't show me enough of what I want in a woman to get me turned on. I gotta say, a girl demanding sex from me is major turn off. It's like, where's your feminine quality? Where's your tact? I have standards, and while she had physical beauty, it seemed to me as though we were after two different things.


I need direction, I need to find my place in life. The people at the bars&clubs I work at look at me like I'm the weirdest person alive for turning down hot girls. But, obviously I'm not the only guy like me out there.

I don't usually read this forum, but I accidentally bumped into this post and only read it because you're fellow PUA.
You sound like someone who is grounded and is willing to take an advice, when you admitted you have a problem and is asking for help. As someone who is heavily into psychology, here is my take on your problem.

That loneliness and feeling rejected shaped you into neediness. Which you obviously know. (Also as PUA you know that neediness is not attractive quality that people respect)
The question now is, would you want to satisfy your need by doing all that stuff that is "good for society" or would you like to get rid of that neediness?
Would you rather do the things you need to do or the things you want to do?

I could challenge each of the good deeds you want to do, as actually being selfish. You're not doing these things for good of the society, you're doing it to satisfy your ego. I feel like you will have incomplete life if you peruse doing things just in order to satisfy your ego. Your happiness is made by yourself and not by some external influences. Remember this. Would you like to be always happy? Then you have to get rid of your ego.
Also, don't listen to the people saying this is normal. People questioning you are right. This all might seem heroic and noble to you and the society, but it's all the product of social conditioning. You don't know what is good or bad until you question it yourself.

Now, don't get me wrong, I still do "good" things for people, but now I'm much happier when I do them... when there is no pressure and when I don't feel unhappy if I skip doing them.
Also, judging girls for wanting sex shows me that this problem took it's roots very very deep. First of all, if done right, they enjoy sex much much more then guys. Seeing how much guys want sex, can you blame girls? Second, what do you think are their feminine qualities? To be able to have an intelligent conversation with her? I got friends for that. Now, I don't have girlfriends anymore, only fuck buddies.

Anyways, I hope this all made sense. I know all of this seems too complicated, but that problem of yours needs fixing and not enforcing it. Like an obese person needing cookies. If you want to correct this I can give you some books to read and exercises to do.
I'm living this unconditioned life so I know what I'm talking about. I don't need anything to be happy.
Best wishes.

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Tuesday, September 18

Warm up > 348 Jelqs > Testicle Massage > Warm down

Warm up > 189 Jelqs > 11 minutes start/stop > Warm down

Warm up > 189 Jelqs > Warm down

Sometimes I wonder why I got into game. When the opportunity for partying and nearly guaranteed sex comes along, I usually duck and dodge. I can't explain it. Am I afraid of something? I've gone into things like that before and I usually wake up sad, rather than proud. Maybe I don't think sex is all that it's cracked up to be.

I'll be honest - I have girls OFFERING themselves to me at the bar. Sometimes bluntly - "Can you take me home?" Sometimes not as much; I had this one cute short blond girl this weekend (an 8.5) stop dead in her tracks and say, "Oh my fucking god you are so hot. Hey guys (to her friends) Let's go in here I want this bouncer to hit on me."
My reaction? I felt grossed out. Other guys would probably wonder wtf is wrong with me. Sometimes I do too. Aren't guys supposed to jump on sex the minute it's offered? Aren't I supposed to be a dog, trained to pounce on the smallest opportunity?
That just doesn't describe me. I got into game because I thought my game was bad. Turns out - I'm sincerely disinterested in having wild sex with random girls. I'm the guy who wants a relationship ... granted, with 3 or 4 girls at a time, but I prefer it a little steadier. Or... do I? Maybe I just don't know what I want.

I think part of my problem is that I don't know how to build relationships. I'm not going to get into the sob story of my life, but I've spent most of it isolated from people, or torn away from the ones I loved. I was homeless at 14, in jail by 16. I was in and out of group homes and hospitals in between then and somewhere along the way, I decided I was the lone wolf.
I got out of jail at about 17 or 18 and tried the charismatic personable guy at school when I got out. It worked for a bit, but then something inside me crashed and I went loner again for another 3 years.
I'm trying to become someone I like. I don't like me right now. I mean, sure, I have a lot going for me. But there are a few things that are holding me back.

I think that's what all this game, girls, dating and crap is really about. It's about me becoming the person I want to be. It doesn't even have anything to do with getting girls. I guess... I want to be wanted. I can get that without the sex. That's why the topic of confidence and personality are harrowing on my mind, because those are the people who are truly wanted in life. That is, people with confidence and a brilliant personality.

I like me. I just need some tweaking. Sometimes, I don't think I'm as far off as I'm afraid I am.

You know, the things that really interest me are things like martial arts, knife throwing, bo staff training, wilderness survival. That gets my heart pounding much more than the opportunity at a 3some (Which I've now twice turned down). I want to volunteer with kids and the handicapped, learn how to become financially successful and then build communities in parts of the world that have no infrastructure. That is TONS more exciting than clubs, to me.
I want to build schools and wells, I want to invest in funds for environmental research, I want to support small farms.
I would be so much more proud of myself if I did any of this than if I banged that hot blond from the bar.
Fuck, and then some people have me questioning myself. Where the hell are your priorities?

I like a challenge. When a girl is all over me I'm not gunna be interested. I want to make her interested in me by me being interested in her. We may just be the same....ay?

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I don't usually read this forum, but I accidentally bumped into this post and only read it because you're fellow PUA.
You sound like someone who is grounded and is willing to take an advice, when you admitted you have a problem and is asking for help. As someone who is heavily into psychology, here is my take on your problem.

That loneliness and feeling rejected shaped you into neediness. Which you obviously know. (Also as PUA you know that neediness is not attractive quality that people respect)
The question now is, would you want to satisfy your need by doing all that stuff that is "good for society" or would you like to get rid of that neediness?
Would you rather do the things you need to do or the things you want to do?

I could challenge each of the good deeds you want to do, as actually being selfish. You're not doing these things for good of the society, you're doing it to satisfy your ego. I feel like you will have incomplete life if you peruse doing things just in order to satisfy your ego. Your happiness is made by yourself and not by some external influences. Remember this. Would you like to be always happy? Then you have to get rid of your ego.
Also, don't listen to the people saying this is normal. People questioning you are right. This all might seem heroic and noble to you and the society, but it's all the product of social conditioning. You don't know what is good or bad until you question it yourself.

Now, don't get me wrong, I still do "good" things for people, but now I'm much happier when I do them... when there is no pressure and when I don't feel unhappy if I skip doing them.
Also, judging girls for wanting sex shows me that this problem took it's roots very very deep. First of all, if done right, they enjoy sex much much more then guys. Seeing how much guys want sex, can you blame girls? Yes, I've read PUA books too. I'm aware girls enjoy sex. Except, I don't enjoy sex THAT much. I don't relate to the guys who do. Second, what do you think are their feminine qualities? To be able to have an intelligent conversation with her? I got friends for that.The girls I go with are my friends. Isn't that what a fuck buddy is? What's the point of sex without connection? I'm an intelligent creature, why would I not want to express this? I'm not Mr. Pickup. I'm a whole slew of things from clown, to sophisticated, to lover, to masseuse, to personal trainer. Sorry, I have a certain standard and if she can't tease my intelligence, then I'm not turned on. Now, I don't have girlfriends anymore, only fuck buddies.

Anyways, I hope this all made sense. I know all of this seems too complicated, but that problem of yours needs fixing and not enforcing it. Like an obese person needing cookies. If you want to correct this I can give you some books to read and exercises to do. Feel free to drop me a list.
I'm living this unconditioned life so I know what I'm talking about. I don't need anything to be happy.
Best wishes.

Having goals is a good thing. Wanting to do good is a good thing. I don't understand why a person would pop onto the internet and say that they aren't as good the person doing them thinks they are. It's like you're trying to make me question my goals to be in favour of your own.
What I want to do will make me an attractive person. Any neediness I have will be over ruled by the fact that I'm just a fuckin' kickass guy. And, after I join the military and get martial arts&weapons training, a bonafide badass to boot.

I'm not really sure about the point of your post. What are you trying to say?

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Having goals is a good thing. Wanting to do good is a good thing. I don't understand why a person would pop onto the internet and say that they aren't as good the person doing them thinks they are. It's like you're trying to make me question my goals to be in favour of your own.
What I want to do will make me an attractive person. Any neediness I have will be over ruled by the fact that I'm just a fuckin' kickass guy. And, after I join the military and get martial arts&weapons training, a bonafide badass to boot.

I'm not really sure about the point of your post. What are you trying to say?

I kind of read what you wrote last night but didn't have time to respond. You shouldn't have deleted it and I'm kind of responding to that post (if I remember it correctly).
Also, I just love having these kind of discussions, it kind of lets me in the people's minds which are fascinating for me, and if I help you in the process, then that's great.

Let me introduce myself as well, I'm Vladimir: winning poker player, spiritualist, psychologist, bodybuilder, pick-up artist, programmer, biologist, evolutionist, atheist, magician, instrument player, illusionist, joga practitioner, juggler, scientist, cook, stylist... and soon to be NLP practitioner, martial-artist, people reader... Also, I'm open-minded, non-judgmental, have no fears rational or irrational, always happy, love everything, I readily admit I'm wrong, I change myself...

First, you have to realize that nothing is inherently good or bad. If planet Earth disappeared right now, it would make no difference whatsoever. Here is a quote that sums it up:
“The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil and no good, nothing but blind pitiless indifference.”
― Richard Dawkins


But let's say it matters and let's take an extreme case of a "good deed". Would it be a good thing to help people survive? There are too much of us as it is... as the numbers go up we are pushing other life out of their existence, we're taking animal's habitat, killing them even more for meat... we are running lower on food and water, on fossil fuels... we are polluting even more. Now, is saving some family from poverty a good thing? You might be helping them but at the same time fucking up the whole planet on a small scale. Is building a school a good thing if those schools are teaching our children wrong If you want to look to focus on the negative sides of overpopulation, yea that'd make a lot of sense. But in the growing age, we're conducting tons of research on how to overcome all of these problems. Maybe some of those people I pull out of poverty will go and help the issues of Earth. Maybe they won't. But hey, at least I'm being proactive about them. What I'm hearing from you is, "Meh, fuck 'em." I don't do that.
Is saving a mouse from the cat a good thing or a bad thing? It's good for someone and bad for someone else. A cat can eat many things, so there is a way to save the mouse and keep the cat nourished.

Now, the next one is an important paragraph as you might wonder what is the point of living then, how to keep one selves motivated.
Life for me is a game. Do you remember, when you were a child, how the world seemed wondrous and how everything you saw you had to poke and smell and examine to see how and why it works? Why is it there? What does it do? The textures, colors, smells, shapes, dynamics... that's what life is about: Experiencing things, experimenting, finding out why stuff ticks...
After I got rid of my ego, fear of death and social conditioning, I feel literally drunk/high. That's what booze does anyway, you feel great because it removes those things... that's why you do those silly things that you'd otherwise feel judged about. I feel ecstatic and fascinated about everything. This is what real love is. Sounds good. I'm heading there. When you appreciate someone for what he is and not for what he has to offer to you. What you think is love is actually a form of neediness: "Oh look, someone wants me! I better stick to her because I wouldn't bear loosing her." That doesn't describe me even in the slightest.

Keep reading, this is even more important then the last paragraph.
You mentioned, when you got old that you'd be looking back fondly at what great deeds you did in life. But what if you, one day, figure out what I'm talking about right now? Then you'll feel terrible, because you found out that, what you did in life were not your goals, but someone else's goals. And what if you're wrong, and I never did? Then I'd be a terrible person for listening to you. Um... I'm still not sure what you're trying to tell me. Love myself and others? Or pickup is the new male religion? If you do what society/ego needs you to do, then you will live an unfulfilled life and you will regret it one day. You're expected to dig wells for the society so you do it.Who expects me to do this? What society are you living in? I don't know man, I like having my own goals and I'm the one thinking clearly here... uninhibited by my ego or weird needs. You will never become satisfied if you try to fulfill those needs, just like a millionaire can't get enough millions...That's a major generalization that you just made there. As though anyone who makes big amounts of money are addicted to making money to fill this needy little void inside them.

Yes, having goals is a good thing. And admittedly I got so many goals that I doubt I'll accomplish everything in my lifetime. But, those are my goals. Whose goals do you have? Would you rather travel, even though that doesn't do any good for the world or make people respect you more? Would you rather <insert your thing here>?

This is the point of my post, I want to help you achieve this. You don't know what living means. Okay, I'll listen. How do I live life more?


We might or might not discuss this but I got something else to ask you. You say that you got girls throwing themselves at you left and right (before they even talk to you as I understood). Why do you think is that so? Is it your lifestyle, looks, charisma... if you could elaborate on that, it would be of so much help. Cheers

I deleted my old post because after I wrote it and came back from work, I reread it ... and didn't really agree with it. I decided it was too much, and left an impression of me that isn't true. I came across as thinking I was better than people. I never said girls were throwing themselves at me. I said I have girls approach me. They will because of the way I talk and behave, the way I hold myself. I'm fit, I'm attractive and can be very outgoingly charismatic. I'm fairly confident.
lol especially at the bar. Often, I'll be joking or talking with some patrons and a girl will see me and walk up and say hi. Last night, I had one girl approach me and tell me her friend thought I was cute. I went up to her and played it like we were in highschool. I told her I was going to write her letters during class and skip detention to come see her. good fun

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Let me introduce myself as well, I'm Vladimir: winning poker player, spiritualist, psychologist, bodybuilder, pick-up artist, programmer, biologist, evolutionist, atheist, magician, instrument player, illusionist, joga practitioner, juggler, scientist, cook, stylist... and soon to be NLP practitioner, martial-artist, people reader... Also, I'm open-minded, non-judgmental, have no fears rational or irrational, always happy, love everything, I readily admit I'm wrong, I change myself...

You forgot to add modest to the list. Lol

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I'm sorry Nacho, I accidentally hit Edit your post, rather than quote and reply.

I wrote my reply in your post

I'm going to ask that you take this to PM. I like to save my log for logging my PE progress