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[Praetorian Senior Member Member of the Month Feb 2016 Find all posts View Profile Close Praetorian]

Fortnightly report:

17th January - 29th January (inclusive): 13 days of 13 days trained during this period. This gives me a total of 28 days of 28 days trained since 2nd January. A third of the way through this quarter with no days missed...hooray!

*25th January - only half of my girth routine completed due to lackluster EQ*
* Brutally cold 'polar vortex' descended on Asia from the 25th - 29th of January. This presented additional challenge in training but I did extra warm up for safety. Weather returning to normal (horribly hot) as of today.

Feeling good and wang in good condition. Morning wood and random semi-erections during the day which is fantastic given my age. Time to engage myself in the second month of this cycle.

[Praetorian Senior Member Member of the Month Feb 2016 Find all posts View Profile Close Praetorian]

Time for my fortnightly report:

30th January - 13th February (inclusive): 14 days of 15 days trained during this period. This gives me a total of 42 days of 43 days trained since 2nd January. I am now half way through this training quarter. I had a rest day on the 3rd of February just because I thought that I needed it.

* EQ is still very good.
* Hard to see any increase in flaccid hang as it fluctuates.
* A definite increase in flaccid stretch as my glans is at a higher point on my belly when I do straight up stretches and this is noted by anatomical features of my torso rather than measurement. I have never really measured BPFSL (why I haven't is a bit sloppy as I am very thorough with everything else), however, the slightly increases stretch which is now consistently longer is a good sign. I am aware this increases in BPFSL is often a sign of forthcoming increases in BPEL.
* Several bouts of edging which have not been structured into my routine but rather are done with my libido is in sync with available time.
* Difficult to say whether all of my girth work is contributing to gains. Definitely getting some big wang results during clamping and squeezes but I usually go on how little my fingers can connect at the same point on the wang each time when I do edged clamping. Hopeful but not able to make claims at this stage.
* General observation of erect penis during regular edging makes me very happy. My wang is looking like a proper Praetorian's spear, upright and looking mean. Very vascular.

So at the half-way point of this quarter, I am still as committed and disciplined. I am hopeful (as always) of good outcomes. I still refuse to measure as I wish to see the full results at the 3 month mark to make comments and critique. Three emissions over the last two weeks. Traction wrapping for an average of 4 hours a day post PE.

Bravo Victor!

[Praetorian Senior Member Member of the Month Feb 2016 Find all posts View Profile Close Praetorian]

Despondent. Yes the Praetorian is despondent. I will explain.

Everyone knows (at least the longer term members) that I am a dedicated guy with my PE; always have been. I have also been very careful about taking accurate measurements as part of my journey. I am halfway through my current quarter or manual stretching and edged clamping (with some erect and horse squeezes as part of the girth routine).

Now, I have always found gains hard to come by but my evidence shows clearly that over the course of the years, I have gained 1" of BPEL and 0.125" of MSEG. I usually don't measure during my quarters until the end because people can become obsessive about it.

Anyway, I have been rocking my training and have experienced no negative PIs. In fact, my EQ has been better than ever consistently being at 9. So I was revisiting the TGC theory thread in a bid to just do some revision on anatomy and gain theory. As everything has been going really well, I thought that I would measure this one time during a quarter. I had not PE'd yet today and I traditionally always measure on rest days at the end of a quarter. I thought that I would measure BPEL first as it is usually the thing that we are most curious about. I got a good 9 on the EQ scale and then accurately measured (it was easy to maintain the erection). I came in at 6.9" BPEL. WTF? Check my sig...yeah that's right. I even put the ruler on its side to compare BPEL measurements....6.9". I checked my MSEG whilst still at a 9 EQ and it came in at 5.0"...yeah check my sig. Now 0.125" variation is believable with fluctuating EQ but mine has improved so what gives?

I then waited about 10 minutes until completely flaccid to measure BPFSL. 6.9". Now I have never kept track of BPFSL which is sloppy on my part as I am good on records for everything else so I can't say if this has changed one way or the other but based on what we know about BPSFL and BPEL, it is very unlikely that I have had 6.9 BPFSL and 7.25 BPEL in the past; surely I would have experienced some discomfort during erections or other indications.

So what gives? I have re-read the TGC Theory thread many times. The theory would suggest tunica limitations but as I am doing a manual stretching routine, the tunica should be targeted. These kind of basics are familiar to me so I don't know what the hell is going on and am not pleased.

Someone (if anyone comes into my thread) will no doubt say "calm down" or "stress will just make it worse". I know and agree. However, where have my gains disappeared to in the last 6 weeks of training? A drop of 0.35 BPEL is significant, particularly given my high EQ. If you read back far enough, I was packing 6-8 EQ for some time so it just doesn't add up.

I am taking a rest day today. I don't feel inspired to follow my current routine which for the first time, has resulted in negative change. No change I have dealt with on many occasions. However, this is a big kick in the wang. For those that may be curious, I was manual stretching with 5-7 lbs pressure on my wang (I have a lot of experience with pressure, weight etc.) and was not getting super-turtling or any negative PIs. With the addition of traction wrapping 4-5 hours after every session, it makes the taste oh so much bitter.

[Praetorian Senior Member Member of the Month Feb 2016 Find all posts View Profile Close Praetorian]

Ok. Given the problems that have been encountered there is only one course of action. As Matt Damon said in 'The Martian' when he was confronted by a significant problem:

"I have to science the shit out of this".

I have very, very strong suspicions based on previous progress and lack of progress. I believe that I know a way forward. I have been working on it for some time anyway so I will accelerate my work and post.

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A big kick in the wang, indeed.

Look forward to your theory and your finding of the answers you are seeking!

[Praetorian Senior Member Member of the Month Feb 2016 Find all posts View Profile Close Praetorian]

Rome may burn but amongst the ashes, I will still be standing even if my blood mixes it to thick crimson!

The way forward has been set. I have posted my compiled information on tunica and how to develop it. It is all about the tunica and I have a high degree of fibrous tunica. It just needs to be coaxed.

From today I have started hanging and my former routine in redundant. I have constructed a Captain's Wench and am an experienced traction wrapper. See this post for more information on theory and practice (it is a long one):

https://www.pegym.com/forums/penis-e...il-theory.html

So here is my new routine based on previously established, safe and progressive hanging practices:

Week 01: 3x sets 2lbs Max @ 20m each
Week 02: 4x sets 2lbs Max @ 20m each (only adding sets)
Week 03: 5x sets 2lbs Max @ 20m each
Week 04: 6x sets 2lbs Max @ 20m each (privacy time maximized)
Week 05: 6x sets 3lbs Max @ 20m each (only adding weight)
Week 06: 6x sets 4lbs Max @ 20m each
Week 07: 6x sets 5lbs Max @ 20m each
Week 08: 6x sets 6lbs Max @ 20m each
Week 09: 6x sets 7lbs Max @ 20m each (in each example, this is a typical number of sets per day)
Week 10: 6x sets 8lbs Max @ 20m each (i.e. at this point, the hanger could be doing 6x 20m sets per day)
Week 11: 6x sets 9lbs Max @ 20m each
Week 12: 6x sets 10lbs Max @ 20m each

I am under no illusions. The maximum amount of time required for hanging at 6 sets, complete with 10 minute rest times between sets, is 3 hours (minus warm up and warm down). However, as per my theory, tough tunica individuals need significant force x significant time to gain in my mind. I have been traction wrapping in the past but have ordered the Stealth Innerwear to hopefully build up to around the clock ADS. Until it arrives, I will continue to traction wrap.

A key part of my theory is that even with significant force x significant time used on tough tunica individuals, it is the ADS that is also critical. First, you must find at what point you are actually extending BEYOND your normal BPSFL. It is only at that point that you can start to lock in that new measurement with ADS. If not, tough tunica gainers, in my opinion, simply have their progress 'reset' during the other 15+ hours of the day that they are not using traction wrapping or some other form of ADS to keep their wang set in an elongated state. The dense 'ponytail' of collagen fibres comprising a denser than average tunica, which is extremely strong tissue, will simply go back to where it was otherwise.

So, I will find over the next 12-16 weeks at exactly what level of significant force x significant time, set in place by ADS, will promote gains.

Bravo Victor! Amongst the blood and ashes we rise to rebuild and forge the long spear....

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Beginning of week 1 cycle. 3 x 20 minute hanging sets completed at 2.2 lbs with 10 minute rests in between. Light jelqing during rests to maintain circulation. Warm up and warm down (10 minutes each) completed. 10 minutes of manual stretching completed at the end of hanging session. Traction wrapping for 4 hours post PE.

Will post after first day of week 2 cycle completed.

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Week 1 hanging cycle completed. I now move to the week 2 cycle with an additional set; so, 4 x 2.2 lbs sets @ 20 mins per set. This stuff is time intensive! I am feeling some work to the tunica, particularly on the sides of the wang by set 3. The only minor problem that I am having is that by set 3, my glans has taken a bit of punishment as the downward force of the weight (SD Hangs) is pushing a lot of blood into the glans and over time, giving it a bit of discolouring. It isn't leading to anything of great concern and there is still sensation in the glans so it is to be expected that new and advanced exercises put the wang under stress.

During the 10 mins between sets I am doing 2 x A stretches (left), 2 x A stretches (right), 2 x A stretches (down) and 4 x bundled stretches (180 twist). Its great to be doing these additional exercises in conjunction with the hanging; it really feels like they are working together to coax that tunica to expand.

In other news, just a bit shitty because my cockring hasn't arrived nor my Stealth Innerwear. The cockring left Australia with DHL on the 9th of February; I could have rolled the thing to my house here with a fucking stick whilst on foot by now. Have made enquiries about it's location but nothing yet. The Innerwear has only just been posted even though I ordered it two weeks ago, like the cockring. However, the factory in China was closed for Chinese New Year for 2 weeks so still no joy with that item either. I officially start 9 weeks of holidays from next week after working my arse off so am really looking forward to additional PE focus! Thus, I am hoping for those items to arrive soon.

Anyway, as always I remain loyal to my routine and lets get it on for next week. Slowly getting the fat element of my bodyweight down also. Currently at 98 kgs which is good. Was 105 kgs at the beginning of January. I was 116 kgs before I returned to training from very bad injury last year. 90 kgs is as lean as I can get but anywhere from 90-92 kgs sees me in good shape. Just have to keep at it like everything else

Bravo Victor!

[Praetorian Senior Member Member of the Month Feb 2016 Find all posts View Profile Close Praetorian]

Week 2 hanging cycle complete. One rest day on the 27th February just because my body was hinting that it needed it. I now move on to 5 x 20 min sets @ 2.2 lbs. This is getting hardcore on the time side. That is 100 minutes of actual hanging and 40 minutes of A Stretching and Bundled Stretches in the 10 minute rest periods between sets. So, 2 hours and 20 minutes lol.

I am definitely working on the 'sufficient time' element of my tough tunica theory at this stage. Of course, next week it will be about 3 hours of hanging per session as I hit the 6 set max. After that week, I will do some BPFSL measuring at the end of March as I had originally planned. We then move on to more weight week by week and so will move into the 'sufficient force' part of the equation. At any rate, we will see.

Other relevant things: Hanging has definitely taken down my EQ but that was to be expected. It seems to be a common side effect. I can definitely feel the tunica having been worked for many hours after which is great. I edge most days after hanging just because I think that it helps with potential gains over time. Takes time to get hard due to lowered EQ but I do which is good. I still traction wrap after all PE for a few hours. I wear a cock ring the rest of the time and while sleeping just to keep a bit of extra blood going in there.

Body weight holding steady at 98 kgs. Need to tighten up the slips with sugars which happen sometimes late at night due to a largely protein based diet and the exercise. Hoping to bust through with another couple of kgs lost by the end of March. Hitting 95 kgs by the end of this month would be awesome. The only bit of bad news is that my pilonidal cyst has returned that f#@$$@%$#ing piece of shit. I am just doing my best to manage it which is all that you can do really. Just makes sitting and doing sitting PE in particular a bit more difficult.

Anyway, fuck it. Rock on for March!

Bravo Victor!

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Week 3 hanging cycle complete. There has been significant drop off in EQ, down from about 9-9.5 to 5. After consulting experienced hangers on the forums, it looks to be that there is a hint of overtraining coming into play. Being unable to get an erection due to super fatigue shouldn't be part of the equation.

So, I am going on recommendations by vets here and going to 3 x 20 minute sets with jelqing between sets, as per Big Al's routine that he posted recently. Today was my first day on this routine and I feel much better. EQ is beginning to return already and I am working with a thicker flaccid for hanging due to the light jelqing between sets which is great. The A-Stretches and bundled stretches along with 5 sets was just too much.

Tomorrow I was due to go up to 6 sets but will instead do the 3 x 20. My wang handles the 2.2 lbs easily. I will increase to 3 lbs, 5 oz. I am working with 1 kg and 0.5 kg weights and there simply is nothing where I live in pound weights. I will start off gently and am prepared to 'ride the fatigue' with lowering the weight back down on sets 2 and 3 if necessary.

Busy period as I get ready to finish work before a holiday period so trying to make it all work. Not much sex life right now but I am cool with that. I like to work on my PE in privacy over extended periods in a hope to make gains and then enjoy the benefits. If it happens...good. If not...I am cool. Onward!

Bravo Victor!

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1 day late with my report due to work demands. I am very much enjoying my routine of 3 x 20 minute sets @ 3lbs 5oz. Can definitely feel the stretch and my EQ has gone back up to about an 8 which is great. I feel that I can get even more from this weight so I will do another week on it. As experienced hangers say, get what you can at the lower weights as you can plateau in gains at higher weights later on.

So, I will keep at it. I continue to traction wrap for around 5 hours per day and wear a cock ring while I sleep. Only two weeks to go for this quarter until measuring. As I came in at 6.9 BPEL during my impromptu measuring about one month ago, I am not expecting any significant gains in the 6 weeks following that which is the end of this month. However, better flaccid hang and solid erections during edging make me feel confident that I am following a promising path for tough tunica. Onward!

Bravo Victor!

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Ok have completed another week of hanging at 3 x 20 mins @ 3lbs 5 oz. No real problems except some continuing fluctuation in EQ. Also, my glans seems to be smaller. I don't know how this is possible. When I achieve full erection, the glans in relation to the shaft looks considerably smaller. I am due to measure next week so will find out what is going on at that time.

I am moving up to 3 x 20 mins @ 4 lbs 6.5 oz for the next week. My ligs are very, very loose so am probably reaching the limit of lig extension and hopefully moving on to more targeted tunica work. I am going to ask the community when it is appropriate to move from SD to OTC or some other angle. Last week of the quarter.

Oh...also, I got fired from my job along with everyone else in my department. Not going into details but it relates to a cash grab by our employer so that they don't have to pay us holiday pay after we slogged it out tough all year for the ungrateful bastards. Desperately trying to find a new job. Will keep everyone posted.

Bravo Victor!

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Damn...sorry to hear of your job loss, P! Does this mean you're headed back to Aussieland or are you hangin' in Thailand looking for work? Prayers are with you, Man! Keep us informed!

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Damn...sorry to hear of your job loss, P! Does this mean you're headed back to Aussieland or are you hangin' in Thailand looking for work? Prayers are with you, Man! Keep us informed!

Thanks a lot for that jock...appreciate it. I have to put in a couple of years work to recoup the money it took to move over here, so I can't go back at this stage. I am trying to get work outside Thailand. The corruption, racism, money-grabbing and lack of world view here have intensified over the years and to be honest, I am sick of it. I am waiting for response from a neighbouring country right now.

The funny thing is, for the intense racism that the Thais show towards Burmese, Khmers and others in nearby countries, the joke is now on them. Burma is now a democracy and Thailand is a military dictatorship...again...for the 18th time in the last 100 years. Largely, the Thais don't have the intellectual, emotional and political maturity needed for democracy. That is why they need Military Big Brother to make their decisions for them.

The other nearby countries are far more interesting right now anyway so will give them a shot. Thanks again.

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Wishing you well, Brother. Keep in touch!