Lavian's Long Path to the Holy Grail

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Welcome to the Lavian's log!

Initial stats:

BPEL: 6,3 inches
NBPEL: 5,9 inches
MEG: 4,6 inches

Starting a log after 2 months of Jon Pop's 90 Day Beginner Routine. No measurable gains.

PE Injury, 1 week off, restarted routine in 30th Aug. Initial start date of PE: 10th July 2014.

Milestones reached:

Girth:

[First Girth Gains] [4,75 in hit] [5 in hit, goal reached] [5,25 in hit] [5,5 in hit] [5,75 hit] [6 in hit, ultimate goal reached]

Length:

[First Length Gains] [6,5 in hit][6,75 in hit] [7 in hit, goal reached] [7,25 in hit] [7,5 in hit] [7,75 in hit] [8 in hit, ultimate goal reached]

Erection Quality:

[9/10 EQ Reached] [9/10 Morning EQ Reached]

Other:

[Frenulum Stretched]

[PE for 3 month]

[No pornography for 1 month]

Log will contain routine changes, supplements, PIs and observations worth noting.

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30th August 2014

Routine Changes:

Phase 1

10 Minute Warm-up, shower, direct waterflow.

Phase 2

Straight Stretch + 30 Quick Kegels
10 Circle Stretches (focus up and down)
20 Helicopter Shakes
30 sec Frenulum Stretches

Upward Stretchs + 30 Quick Kegels
10 Circle Stretches (focus up and down)
20 Helicopter Shakes
30 sec Frenulum Stretches

Downwards Stretch + 30 Quick Kegels
10 Circle Stretches (focus up and down)
20 Helicopter Shakes
30 sec Frenulum Stretches

Phase 3

30 sec Re-Warmup
50 Straight Tight Wet Jelq
30 V-Jelq

30 sec Re-Warmup
50 Upwards Tight Wet Jelq
30 V-Jelq

30 sec Re-Warmup
50 Downwards Tight Wet Jelq
30 V-Jelq

Phase 4

6 Minute Warmdown + 50 Kegels/Reverse Kegels (Held for 3 sec)

Other:

No porn.

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14th Sep 2014

Measurements:

No gains.

Observations:

Tight Jelq doesn't seem to cause the same raised EQ, low morning EQ, no more increased hang experienced before, no more afternoon fatigue.

Conclusions:

Should rethink the routine and go back to a lighter to to focus on EQ rather than girth gains.

Routine Changes:

Phase 3

Going back to regular Jelq instead of tight ones.

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15th Sept 2014

Break:

Staying away from home for a short while, routine interfered.

19th Sept 2014

Break Over:

Routine resumed.

Notes:

Fallen ill, staying home, no work.

Observations:

Very bad morning EQ. Should go easy with the routine.

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19th Sept 2014

Notes:

Figured I might be over training kegels, reduced the exercises.

Routine Changes:

Phase 4

30 Kegels/Reverse Kegels (Held for 3 secs)

[AlpineNewt Senior Member Member of the Month Sept 2014 Find all posts View Profile Close AlpineNewt]

Hi Lavian,
Have you thought about adding edging to the end of your routine? I believe edging is the biggest factor with my own gains.

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22th September 2014

Discovery:

Developed better way to stretch my frenulum. It is possible to fit in a finger under it, this way it's easier to take away the strain off the glans and onto the frenulum itself.

Remeasurements:

I was ready to rant about PE and under appreciated self-improvements in general, but these weeks remeasurements were interesting.

Normally I measured in a sleeping position on my back. Recently read the article on how to do it correctly - standing up.

Remeasurements showed a +0.2 in BPEL and +0.1 MEG. I'll remeasure and confirm the gains next week to make them official. Might have been a measurement error or simply different measurements due to the change in the method.

Morning EQ is still at 5-6, normal erection - 6-7. Holding kegels it might get to 8. Eager to try supplements.

Fabled newbie gains and my relatively young age gave me hope to reach 7 in mark in the first six months. Seems like I should set some lesser goals.

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Reply to AlpineNewt:

Tried it, but didn't stick to it. I'm trying to stay away from pornography and I live in a one room apartment with two other people, 13-hour shifts at the job makes some time-limitations as well. Don't think it's currently an option.

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26th September 2014

Notes:

Previously noted gains were a false alarm, girth gains can be argued for, but length gains were definitely mis-measurements. Remeasured NBPEL and BPEL and got the starting results. Shame, got me hopeful.

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28th September 2014

Notes:

Moisturizing water-based lube ran out, switched to extra virgin olive oil.

Yesterday afternoon I felt the same penis fatigue I did in the first month of PE. Yet to find exact causes, and if it correlates to any gains at all. Didn't in the first month.

Three months mark is closing in. Results are incredibly disappointing.

Routine Changes:

Phase 4

50 Erect Kegels

50 Reverse Kegels

1 Quick Edge

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28th September 2014

Notes:

Moisturizing water-based lube ran out, switched to extra virgin olive oil.

Yesterday afternoon I felt the same penis fatigue I did in the first month of PE. Yet to find exact causes, and if it correlates to any gains at all. Didn't in the first month.

Three months mark is closing in. Results are incredibly disappointing.

Do not be disappointed, remeber first 3 months are for conditioning. And then you can add some more advanced exercises to your routine.

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Reply to Hero_Man:

I realize I am being whiny now. I won't stop trying, but it does, however, mean that my initial goal of gaining 2 cm BPEL in the first six months to be an utter failure.

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29th September 2014

Break:

My first three months of PE are over, unfortunately with no measurable gains. I'll be taking a week off. After it I'll resume with added intensity and I currently plan on into working Ultimate Jelqs in my routine.

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3rd October 2014

Supplements:

Found myself looking at honey at a local grocery store. Decided I should try the erection tea. Bought some more black tea, honey, some fresh lemon and ginger root. Improvised preparation of the brew was certainly interesting, but I think I overdid it with ginger, as it was the only thing I could taste in the end. Bloody thing was so spicy I was running out of breath drinking it.

I don't see myself having this every day, due to both preparation time and effort and the cost of all the ingredients, but two or three times a week is doable. I should read up more on what to expect and the effective dosage.

4th October 2014

Notes:

The morning after trying the tea, the EQ seems somewhat better, not by much at all, maybe 6 or 7. Might be confirmation bias or placebo.

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5th October 2014

Supplements:

I'll make the second batch of erection tea today as I've got the day off. Hopefully will show some results in a few weeks. Planned dose is at least 2 pints a week.

Upon further research also found out that I had to get a different type of honey for a maximum effect. Darker ones are aimed for an improved blood flow. I got linden honey. I'll put more thought into it next time I have to resupply.

Notes:

Plan for the next 3 months is adding exercises or increasing reps every 4 weeks, with first exercise being Ultimate Jelqs. Break's over tomorrow and I'm not taking any more until another 3 month mark. Everything, of course, is going to depend on PI's as well an injury.

Asked about the no pre-cum problem I have on the forum - here - Maybe it correlates to possible hormonal problems I've been considering. As it would also explain my clinical depression and extremely late puberty. I'm 21 but often get guessed as a 16 or 17 year-old.

Remeasurements:

I know some will say that growth can happen during longer breaks as well, but I am just going to skip this weeks remeasurements.

Pornography avoidance feedback:

While I was feeling increasingly horny the first few weeks, and getting a lot more random boners, my sex drive has currently died completely. (4 weeks in)