Virgin/Anxiety. Celibate until 9 inches.

[Phoenix7672 Senior Member Member of the Month Oct 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Phoenix7672]

Honestly you need to learn to disconnect what you see when you look down, vs what is actually down there. I have dysmorphia too and what I see doesn't look big, flaccid or hard, but based on studies and also looking at similarly sized objects, I know what I see isn't really the truth, so to speak.

Like TheGreatDivider just said, don't waste things. I'd consider myself below average to average looks, and have never had girls flock to me...it takes a ton of effort and energy on my part to attract them through means other than looks. If girls really are coming up to you, find one you like back, and give it a go...or you will likely regret not doing so later in life.

[dodgy Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close dodgy]

It would seem a large part of the problem is that on the outside PE Gym provides resources for penis enlargement:

Taken directly from PE Gym FAQ:

"What is The PEGym? A free Penis Enlargement Community. Here you will find information on making your most prized organ--your penis--bigger, harder, and healthier..

"What's with the term "PEGym"? PE stands for Penile Exercising (or Penis Enlargement)."

So that's the type of person that finds this site and joins. Then they're left confused and disappointed by users not only proclaiming that size doesn't matter, but stating their disgust for users that make honest observations about how different sizes do actually yield different responses in women. I'm off to delete my account, and I expect many users abandon this site also for the same reason, they're let down and disappointed by a community that doesn't support the promoted goals of the site.

I don't think you can argue that most posts on this site are concerning making our dicks bigger, but when someone is posting something along the lines of the OP on this thread, I don't see what's wrong with trying to help.

If he wants to get to 9", that's great, plenty of info here to help him, but he also said something along the lines that once he's 9" he won't have to worry about a girl breaking up with him, which is absurd, and that he's going to remain celibate until he reaches that length, which is sad.

Yes, maybe there's too many posters saying size doesn't matter, but maybe that's because there's too many on here that think size matters too much.

[GoodLookingNerd Member Find all posts View Profile Close GoodLookingNerd]

I woke up this morning and reminisced on my dream last night. (I'll get into this in a little bit)

I've had the same chemistry courses with this one girl for well over a year and a half now. She is a cute petite and very sweet girl. She's like 5'1 110 pounds and me, I am 6'3 225 pounds. Regardless of the size difference, she has always been shy to get my attention, but during our summer course last summer, she really kicked it up a notch. During our labs, she would get close to me and basically brush her arm against mine and stand in front of me to block my way. During our study sessions she would work with me and put her hand on my shoulders and smile at me all the time.

So the end of the summer course comes up, she says she "admires my grit and leadership qualities" as well as poking fun at me and saying I am quite the goofy nerd sometimes as well. People poke fun at me and I roll along with it because I love that type of humor. She asks me for my number and we finish our final the next day. Our little study squad walked out of the class together and she was looking down at her phone most of the time avoiding eye contact with me. We all parted ways and basically was like "Seeya next semester!" I felt a sharp pain knowing that she wanted me to initiate the process of going out with her and maybe possibly be with her. I was just so fucking insecure. I really hated myself there.

Fast forward onto the new semester, she was really happy to see me. Again with the flirts for the first week, but it stopped. Basically one lab, working with her as well as my partner and hers, during our conversation she said she had a date. She looked at me the whole time as she said that and was smiling. My heart literally sunk when I heard that.

I basically chose one of the girls in the class to just go out with and this was the girl I "attatched" myself to and is the girl I mentioned in the beginning of this thread. All I can say is, that when I was hanging out with this new girl and slowly becoming attatched to her, I've always thought about the original girl and have fantasized about what it would of been had I not been such a coward. Well things got bad and called it off with this new girl.

If I learned a couple things from psychology, we unconsciously dream/think about our desires. I've never really dreamt about the girl I dated but rather the original girl has popped into my thoughts so many of times and in my dreams, which happened again last night.

I was spending time with her and was telling her that I had feelings for her all along and that I was just too scared and she started crying on relief. She told me that she loved me and kissed me. We were holding each other lying on the sand on the beach gazing upon the sunset and began to make very passionate love. She looked into my eyes once again and told me that she loved me and then I woke up.

I felt very sick to my stomach knowing that I would let go of something very special like that go away.

I just got my exam back yesterday, again scored at the top amd got a perfect score. Still I am empty and really only desire a truly happy relationship. I really have some work to do. And I appreciate all the advice. It really is up to me and how I implement this advice. But I still will continue to hang.

[discreet Senior Member Member of the Month May 2017 Find all posts View Profile Close discreet]

Hi GoodLookingNerd,

Might I suggest something since your mind is still somewhat flexible (hopefully) and you can still mold it.

Take on endeavors/acts bigger or more then yourself.

In other words, life is gratifying when you live it for others. Sex is better when your goal is to please your partner etc... In turn you will be very pleased.

Try this, volunteer at an animal shelter or a veterinary. I say this as not only will you be helping animals, but people as well.

I feel that you may be too self obsessed here. I mean so what if you are sad, so what blah blah blah, life is not about the self.

If you make it so, then you will probably never be pleased.

PS Its a bit arrogant and short sighted to suggest that having a 9" cock will keep a woman. Why would you think a woman would be that simple and sorta lame? Is a big vagina all you need? People are complex but what we all like is security.

[proactive Senior MemberMember of the Month ? 2017 Find all posts View Profile Close proactive]

Before i got involved in this site i viewed myself as average but on the small end. I set some high goals of that magic 8x6. The more time i spend on here the more satisfied i am with the unit i have. I see many who's end goals are my beginning stats. This has put a whole new spin on my penis life for me. A whole new perspective.

I am totally for growing penis'. But, we need to have well rounded lives in order to enjoy them the fullest.

[discreet Senior Member Member of the Month May 2017 Find all posts View Profile Close discreet]

Proactive my friend, you got that right.

This site is an excellent mens support group.

I mean look at all the helpful replies to GoodLookingNerds post.

Lots of cool, kind and empathetic men here.

[NOWHARD Banned Find all posts View Profile Close NOWHARD]

Hi I will start here, I know. What do I have to complain about? I am 6'3 and have a big frame and it does not look big to me. and I bet even your size 12 feel look small as well, but do work on your problem of dismorphia , if this is giving you anxiety and depression problem try turning to meditation for help, your find it a great help.

Just google depression and meditation and your find help there and if you scroll down your see how the Mayo Clinic gives it the big thumbs up along with a lot of top doctors, if you think it would help try and find a local group to get you started.

AS for sex time to get in there with both feet ASAP, if you need some help try this one site, www.dodsonandross.com its like all those questions about sex you may have been afraid to ask well all the answer are there, your find Dr Betty Dodson answer in a very straight way, she pulls no punch's and gives great advice and is a great lady.

Your find lots to read about on there and your find it covers penis length and she will tell you its not down to length its what you can do with it that counts and at you size I would say your ok to give the lady's the pleasure they want.
OK

One last thing as I just looked on a hunch, google this as well, dysmorphia and meditation, your find some interesting reading.

NOWHARD

[Phoenix7672 Senior Member Member of the Month Oct 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Phoenix7672]

It would seem a large part of the problem is that on the outside PE Gym provides resources for penis enlargement:

Taken directly from PE Gym FAQ:

"What is The PEGym? A free Penis Enlargement Community. Here you will find information on making your most prized organ--your penis--bigger, harder, and healthier..

"What's with the term "PEGym"? PE stands for Penile Exercising (or Penis Enlargement)."

So that's the type of person that finds this site and joins. Then they're left confused and disappointed by users not only proclaiming that size doesn't matter, but stating their disgust for users that make honest observations about how different sizes do actually yield different responses in women. I'm off to delete my account, and I expect many users abandon this site also for the same reason, they're let down and disappointed by a community that doesn't support the promoted goals of the site.

I think the biggest reason people are commenting here is the fact the OP said he won't do anything until he is 9". I think a lot of us want to get to that size some day, but we aren't golding to hold ourselves back from doing anything until it is reached.

The way I read the OP's statement, given he is already above average, would be like someone saying they can afford a Porsche, but they refuse to learn how to drive until they have a Ferrari. It's good to have goals, but you shouldn't give up on parts of life until they are reached (or heaven forbid, they are never actually reached, eg OP only hits 8.5" and hits a long plateau).

[discreet Senior Member Member of the Month May 2017 Find all posts View Profile Close discreet]

I think a lot of us want to get to that size some day, but we aren't golding to hold ourselves back from doing anything until it is reached.

Pffft, not me. I like looking good and decent in cloths.

I think 7.5" would be my desired max if that but I'm not really in it for size but rather for function.

I think anything big like 9" is a bit medieval.

[Big Al AdministratorPEGym EditorMale Enhancement Coach Rep.PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Big Al]

It would seem a large part of the problem is that on the outside PE Gym provides resources for penis enlargement:

Taken directly from PE Gym FAQ:

"What is The PEGym? A free Penis Enlargement Community. Here you will find information on making your most prized organ--your penis--bigger, harder, and healthier..

"What's with the term "PEGym"? PE stands for Penile Exercising (or Penis Enlargement)."

So that's the type of person that finds this site and joins. Then they're left confused and disappointed by users not only proclaiming that size doesn't matter, but stating their disgust for users that make honest observations about how different sizes do actually yield different responses in women. I'm off to delete my account, and I expect many users abandon this site also for the same reason, they're let down and disappointed by a community that doesn't support the promoted goals of the site.

Penis enlargement isn't the issue in this case or most like it- it's the motivation behind it which makes the difference.

[Big Al AdministratorPEGym EditorMale Enhancement Coach Rep.PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Big Al]

Yes, maybe there's too many posters saying size doesn't matter, but maybe that's because there's too many on here that think size matters too much.

Yes It's being stuck in binary thinking- settling for nothing or everything. There's another option which supersedes both of these and it comes from having self-mastery. With mastery you can choose based on aesthetics or curiosity without being influenced by negative emotions.

[everydaynormalguy Senior Member Member of the Month Dec 2017 Find all posts View Profile Close everydaynormalguy]

If we look the things in the most pragmatic way,then I think you need to have sex sooner.What do you prefer? somebody to ask "are you a virgin" or "how big is your penis" and you need to answer the question without lying.I think if your penis is 2 inches then probably it`s better to say that you are virgin...but in your case I think it`s far better to tell your penis size.

I am not saying that you need to have sex in the metter of life and death.If you don`t want to do it for some moral reasons,religious etc. then It`s fine.But in your case you want to have sex,but you are insecure about your size.And you think that because you are a newbie at sex you are going to be be ashamed during your first time.And you think that your size is going to be that thing that is going to make you be ashamed.

The truth is that it`s better to develop in time with the people of your age.First kiss,first GF,first sex.As long as you are waiting is getting worse because other people are gaining more experience in that area and they are getting more observations.If you have sex at 15 with another girl at 15,she is not going to say that you suck in bad,because she doesn`t have experience.It`s the same thing with your size...she doesn`t have experience with other penises.

Let`s asume that you both suck at your first time,because you don`t know what you are doing,because you don`t have the experience to say so.And eventually you are both going to get better and more experienced with the time(later,with different partnars).But if you wait too much you are beginning in dissadvantage so to speak because you are a newbie and the other side is going to be more experienced..

So I don`t think that waiting more is a good choice in your case.You are not "too late" but I think you don`t want anymore waiting.And even let`s say that you fears are going to be true...so what?Some chick is going to tell you "I wish you had a bigger penis" (I don`t think that is going to happen,but let`s assume that).So what?How many people are dealing with so much bigger problems everyday.

If some chick tell you that it`s not going to be the end of the world.I mean just think about how many people you don`t like for some reason and how many people don`t like you for some reason.It`s normal thing and we are accapting it in any other case,but we can`t about our dicks?And just realize that you can`t be perfect according to everybody.Some lady is going to want more,some lady is going to want less.

I am just giving you some ideas.That`s the theory,but I know that it`s not easy to deal with it in reallity.I am having similar problems and I know how hard it is.It`s sound easy when you look at it,but it`s very very hard to deal with this problems.I think that we can all write things up,but in the end of the day the really hard battle is on you and nobody can help you with that on the forums,nomatter what it`s saying.

[KMWylie Senior MemberPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close KMWylie]

Hey there brothas. As you can see from the title from this thread, I am a virgin and will refrain from having sex until I hit my length goal. Is this ridiculous or what?

I am 22, tall, good looking, very intelligent with my studies, get a lot of attention from women but have the biggest anxiety about my penis. I have serious body dsymorphia and think I have a small peter. I did PE in the past and never measured my starting stats, but maybe have gained around or maybe less than half an inch? I really don't know.

Right now I am

BPEL 7.75 in.
MEG 5.0 in.

I know. What do I have to complain about? I am 6'3 and have a big frame and it does not look big to me.

I have seriously fucked up a potential relationship I could've had last year. I was dating this girl and everything was going well. We really cared about each other, and my whole anxiety about not being big was pretty unapparent. I fucked that up by doing some PE because I just thought, "Eh, I know I am more than enough, the ruler shows that, but why not an inch huh?" Got me a lengthmaster from Matters of Size and destroyed my sensitivity and erection angle.

My anxiety was never that much higher. I was about to be in a really good relationship and have beautiful sensual sex with a girl I really cared about but because my dick didn't work, I took action. I made up an extremely absurd story that I even cannot share here, but basically called it off and removed her from all social media and her number. With our last conversation, she said she would always be there for me and wouldn't mind putting our relationship on hold.

6 months later, right now, pokin around on facebook, I see her profile pic with some dude, and even though I was good 3 months later after all this drama, I feel some anxiety resurfacing.

I feel the need to hit my goal of 9 inch BPEL before I start giving attention to females. I am going to see a sex therapist, female because I remember having a conversation like this with one male therapist and I was being judged hard.

I have the LG hanger and am almost a month in. I feel as if I am not going to be enjoying my life once I hit that goal of mine. I am the top in my chemistry program in college, and girls constantly flirt with me, and due to my high insecurities, I pretend to be this cool suave guy who gets the ladies but inside I cringe at myself.

I am really messed up but hope I can get some advice, or hell, even a slap in the face, but I really believe at this point, in order for me to love myself, I need to attain my goal and then life can become enjoyable.

EDIT: Forgot to mention, I am fully recovered from using that device the LengthMaster. Erections and sensitivity restored and getting better thanks to the LG. Best PE device.

Good to hear from you, Good!

First, as I'm sure many of replied - your current size is well above average. However, when a person suffers from body dysmorphia, averages and what people say really don't matter. An anorexic person who is skeletally thin will still look in the mirror and see themselves as "fat." So, don't worry if all of the assurances aren't making you feel better.

As my favorite monkey, Tamora, has noted - talking with a professional really is what you need. Because, like someone who is anorexic, even if you reach your goal, you're still not going to see and accept your true size.

Male enhancement is, at the very core, being happy in your own skin. Whether that's 4 inches or 10 inches. Being successful with male enhancement isn't about a number on a ruler or even about what anyone else thinks. It's about looking in the mirror and feeling confident.

If you have body dysmorphia, no size is going to give you this.

Now, to give you a little bit of reading that might help you put what you want into perspective, once you address the underlying body dysmorphia issues with a professional, please give these two articles a read to learn a little more about female anatomy. (Most guys, even those who've had sex with many partners, should read these.)

A Little Bit About Female Anatomy: AKA How Big is the Vagina?

Where is the G-Spot?

Now, as far as you not wanting to have sex until you reach your size goal - and whether or not that's "ridiculous" I'm going to say -- Yes and no.

Yes, it's ridiculous because physically you are more than well-enough endowed to have sex.

No, it's not ridiculous because no matter what your physical condition, if you're not mentally ready to have sex then you shouldn't have sex.

In addition to speaking to a mental health professional, re: the body dysmorphia, I would also next time be open and honest with your partner (once the relationship starts to get serious). If you avoid having sex, because of these size concerns, but don't tell your partner, she's going to start to think that it's her that's the issue. She's going to assume that you're not interested in her sexually, and that will hurt your relationship, if not lead to its ultimate demise.

If your relationship is serious, and if your partner loves you, explain to her that you have body issues that you're working on. That it's an insecurity and nothing to do with her or her desirability. You're an adult, and in adult relationships, sometimes you have to have uncomfortable and real adult conversations.

Please keep us updated.

[GoodLookingNerd Member Find all posts View Profile Close GoodLookingNerd]

@KMWylie Thank you for your input. It is refreshing to get a females perspective on this situation. Not to discredit anybody's advice as I have read every single post on this thread. It just has a greater impact because I am doing this mainly due to women. But also confidence for myself. I am setting up an appointment with a female sex therapist and will update on this thread.

This sounds kind of lame to ask, but I kind of want your input on my last post on page 4. Thoughts/advice? When you read it. She still kind of gives me "hints" despite being with someone.

[Qandisa Senior Member Member of the Month March 2016 Find all posts View Profile Close Qandisa]

Then they're left confused and disappointed by users not only proclaiming that size doesn't matter, but stating their disgust for users that make honest observations about how different sizes do actually yield different responses in women. I'm off to delete my account, and I expect many users abandon this site also for the same reason, they're let down and disappointed by a community that doesn't support the promoted goals of the site.

Size is only one of the aspects that's a promoted goal of the site, and it's probably the least important of them. I don't think anyone has any issue with guys wanting to be bigger - it's WHY they want to be that's the concern with some. Doing it because of fear and anxiety isn't going to produce positive, healthy results. And honestly when a lot of guys are thinking they want a bigger/better penis they don't realize that there are other aspects - like EQ - that can play a vital role to penis health and sexual experience. They just think well hey bigger must be better so I'm going to look to see what can make it bigger.

I don't think you can argue that most posts on this site are concerning making our dicks bigger, but when someone is posting something along the lines of the OP on this thread, I don't see what's wrong with trying to help.

If he wants to get to 9", that's great, plenty of info here to help him, but he also said something along the lines that once he's 9" he won't have to worry about a girl breaking up with him, which is absurd, and that he's going to remain celibate until he reaches that length, which is sad.

Yes, maybe there's too many posters saying size doesn't matter, but maybe that's because there's too many on here that think size matters too much.

Absolutely.

Can size matter? Sure. Yes there's such a thing as too small - and too big. And then there's a whole BIG middle range of "really good". But size is not the end-all and be-all of a man. Size should NOT be the determining factor of his self-worth.

I'll tell the story again of one of my exes. He always thought he was below average, and used that to justify his low self-esteem. If he was larger then he'd be better in bed, would be more attractive etc. Despite the fact that I told him numerous times that he was NOT small, and quite enjoyed him in bed. He would even go on about how "useless" he was because he was always fumbling with condoms and had a hard time getting them on. So one day when we were going to be having sex I said okay you're getting frustrated with that thing, let me put it on - and I had a hard time getting the condom on him as well. Later that day I picked up some Magnums and hey they went on just fine, and he had no issues with fumbling and feeling clumsy, so I took that as an opportunity to say look at this, you're NOT small, stop beating yourself up about it.
You'd think that would make him feel better about himself, right? Wrong.

Because in reality it wasn't his penis size that was causing his anxiety and self-esteem issues. Because then he just looked to something else. He wasn't muscular enough. His hair was the wrong colour. He didn't make enough money. He wasn't smart enough. The list went on and on. None of that was based on anything that I had ever said to him. He knew I didn't like muscular guys but suddenly nope he's got to try for 6 pack abs to feel more like a man. I liked his hair colour, he felt it made him look old. At every single turn he found something to dislike about himself. He could have had a model's physique and looks and been a millionaire and he still would have found things to hate about himself. Because his actual problem had nothing at all to do with the things he was focusing on, so changing them would never ever bring him peace and satisfaction.