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[Pegasus AdministratorPE Gym EditorPEGym Hero ☺ Admin of the Month Mar 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Pegasus]

This alpha thing seems to be something the bottom end of town tend to indulge in .

Is it they have issues with guys with good jobs and success /status/money ? They tend to see women in the same way they see money /status . There is some head issues going on . There is some fantasy they build where some simplistic actions on their part result in fulfilment . Of course life is more complex .

[HansTwilight Retired ModeratorPE Gym Editor Member of the Month Jan 2017PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close HansTwilight]

What is simp anyway ? The vocab of red pill seems to have a lot of negative words for people that don't think like them is it one of them?

A simp is someone who pedestalizes women. So much so to the extent that he will hurt himself/commit suicide over them.

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Well on the irrational part the link between assets/earning power and social status are very strong most especially in the US . The rest of society might in effect view this totally differently than red pill , their mind games don't have me thinking they are "alpha " just that they are boorish and immature.

By the way i reject red pill entirely that is just one point i wanted to focus on this post.

You reject the red pill because dark triad happens to be slightly involved. There are marijuana users in Australia, that doesn't mean Australia revolves around marijuana. Same principle with red pill and dark triad.

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This alpha thing seems to be something the bottom end of town tend to indulge in .

Is it they have issues with guys with good jobs and success /status/money ? They tend to see women in the same way they see money /status . There is some head issues going on . There is some fantasy they build where some simplistic actions on their part result in fulfilment . Of course life is more complex .

No one said anything about alphas being bad people or disrespectful, another stereotype. Women tend to find them arousing.
You are creating stereotypes and making irrational counter arguments to my points. I never said anything about "the truth" being seen by a narcissistic psychopath, there is no correlation between Rollo Tomassis book and dark triad, some of people in the red pill choose to employ dark triad for their own benefit. I NEVER said alpha males are disrespectful or degrading to women, some are, some aren't. Alpha males are also perfectly capable of being in relationships it has nothing to do with how they see guys with money or how they see women, you are putting all of this in negative light because your mind is set.
Your mind has already been set on your beliefs and you aren't going to change them which is fine. I have expressed my beliefs which are mine and not the next red pillers. If you want to understand the real red pill, not the bullshit people post on reddit, just read, "The Rational Male". I am done with this argument.

[Pegasus AdministratorPE Gym EditorPEGym Hero ☺ Admin of the Month Mar 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Pegasus]

You reject the red pill because dark triad happens to be slightly involved. There are marijuana users in Australia, that doesn't mean Australia revolves around marijuana. Same principle with red pill and dark triad.

Slightly involve !!! Slightly involved .!!!!!
I will let a red piller speak to this .
Here is a quote

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Why Are Men With Dark Triad Personalities So Irresistible To Women?

April 26, 2013 by CH
It’s a scientific fact that women are attracted to men with the suite of personality traits known as the “dark triad”: Narcissism, Machiavellianism, and psychopathy; aka the stuff of which jerks, assholes and badboys are made.
Any man who’s lived a day in his life knows that chicks dig jerks, but now we have the imprimatur of science to confirm what we can all see with our own eyes. The connection to game should be obvious. Many game concepts are essentially retrofitted Dark Triad traits and associated behaviors, allowing the practitioner of the charismatic arts to capture for himself some of the cryptic allure that men naturally blessed with badboy personality possess.
Explanations for the appeal to women of the male Dark Triad have been discussed before, within the hallowed halls of Le Chateau, but usually from esoteric evolutionary theory. Perhaps there are other, more immediate and practical, reasons why men who score high in the Dark Triad do so well with women? Let’s look at the definitions for each of the three relevant traits:
Narcissism
Narcissism is an egotistical preoccupation with self. Because of all their experience with maintaining their self image, people who score high for narcissism will often appear charming but their narcissism will later lead to extreme difficulty in developing close relationships.
Narcissistic men will be better at building an attractive identity, crafting an alluring image, dressing themselves for maximum impact, and comporting themselves with the utmost self-regard. Women love all these characteristics in men, even if these traits are not societally beneficial in numbers exceeding a tiny percentage of men. A man who is full of himself is a man who is full of women’s love.
Machiavellianism
Machiavellianism is a tendency to be manipulative and deceitful. It usually stems from a lack of respect or disillusionment for others.
You cannot properly seduce women if you harbor illusions about their nature. A Machiavellian Man, owing to his willingness to engage in personally, and oftentimes mutually, advantageous deceits, is a skilled hand in the subtle feints of flirting. No seduction will take full flight without recourse to innuendo and barely concealed intent. The tacitly adversarial quality of seduction emanates from the fundamental premise that the reproductive goals of men and women are at odds, and the Machiavellian is the man best equipped to leverage that sweet antagonism to his ends.
Psychopathy
Psychopathy reflects shallow emotional responses. The relative lack of emotions results in high stress tolerance, low empathy, little guilt and leads them to seek extremely stimulating activities, resulting in impusivity and a disposition towards interpersonal conflict.
The darkest of the three traits. It’s a short neural skip from mostly benign, promiscuous psychopath to Hannibal Lector. What is it about psychopaths that women can’t get thoughts of them out of their heads? Besides their evocation of high status shamans and warriors of EEA yore, psychopaths bring one big advantage to the mating arena that quickly propels them to the top — fearlessness. That dead zone in their prefrontal gray matter means that psychopaths don’t feel much when women reject them. No hurt, no guilt, no shame, no doubt, no anger, no nothing. Imagine the power at your fingertips if you had the ice cold stones to approach thousands of women nonstop without suffering even the slightest ding to your emotional state from any rejections. Imagine that, coupled with this exotic imperviousness, you impulsively hit on any woman who piqued your interest. I don’t think you’ll need a calculator to figure out how fast your notch count would rise given these personality priors. Chicks dig a go-getter.
While the average self-deprecating beta male will find it nearly impossible to reconfigure his emotions and thought patterns to match that of the natural born narcissist, Machiavellian, and psychopath, he has now at his disposal tools and concepts — which fly under the banner of “game” — to inch himself closer to Dark Triad triumph. A small adjustment here, a studied mimickry there, and that invisible boring beta male is suddenly finding that the veldt of vagina open to his predations has expanded in every direction.
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[Pegasus AdministratorPE Gym EditorPEGym Hero ☺ Admin of the Month Mar 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Pegasus]

No one said anything about alphas being bad people or disrespectful, another stereotype. Women tend to find them arousing.
You are creating stereotypes and making irrational counter arguments to my points. I never said anything about "the truth" being seen by a narcissistic psychopath, there is no correlation between Rollo Tomassis book and dark triad, some of people in the red pill choose to employ dark triad for their own benefit. I NEVER said alpha males are disrespectful or degrading to women, some are, some aren't. Alpha males are also perfectly capable of being in relationships it has nothing to do with how they see guys with money or how they see women, you are putting all of this in negative light because your mind is set.
Your mind has already been set on your beliefs and you aren't going to change them which is fine. I have expressed my beliefs which are mine and not the next red pillers. If you want to understand the real red pill, not the bullshit people post on reddit, just read, "The Rational Male". I am done with this argument.

I got on red pill websites and read what they themselves posted .
Thus the quote above .
I did research before i came to a conclusion and my views are a result of that .
Quite frankly i have read far more read pill than i want to for the next several lifetimes.

[Johnny D ModeratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Johnny D]

No one said anything about alphas being bad people or disrespectful, another stereotype. Women tend to find them arousing.
You are creating stereotypes and making irrational counter arguments to my points. I never said anything about "the truth" being seen by a narcissistic psychopath, there is no correlation between Rollo Tomassis book and dark triad, some of people in the red pill choose to employ dark triad for their own benefit. I NEVER said alpha males are disrespectful or degrading to women, some are, some aren't. Alpha males are also perfectly capable of being in relationships it has nothing to do with how they see guys with money or how they see women, you are putting all of this in negative light because your mind is set.
Your mind has already been set on your beliefs and you aren't going to change them which is fine. I have expressed my beliefs which are mine and not the next red pillers. If you want to understand the real red pill, not the bullshit people post on reddit, just read, "The Rational Male". I am done with this argument.

Do you not see the hypocrisy in this? You're criticizing Pegasus for stereotyping. But then you go on to say that women find alpha males arousing. You're generalizing what women like. You're creating a stereotype of women. I only entered this discussion to point out the generalization and categorization of women into these shallow and superficial stereotypes as condescending. I don't care if someone wants to believe in the theories of some guy and how he views women in the world. I don't care if a guy doesn't need anything more than a FWB relationship and doesn't tell want to admit when he loves a woman. But I do see the hypocrisy in calling out someone for stereotyping alpha males (an idea that's been debunked in research) only to follow it up by saying the women are attracted to them (also debunked in research).

[closed251 Senior Member Member of the Month Nov 2016 Find all posts View Profile Close closed251]

Ive been reading these posts for while and ive also read posts on red pill, seeing that its everywhere.

I would say this to anyone - Just. Be. Yourself.

Firstly who wants to spend their life following someone elses rules? Surely its tiring?

Secondly, yeah you wont be everyone's type but that doesn't matter. There's nearly 3.5 billion women in the world. I know i won't be perfect for every man, and that's more than fine.

So if your naturally alpha, beta, nerd, jerk... lol etc just be it.

[Big Al AdministratorPEGym EditorMale Enhancement Coach Rep.PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Big Al]

Ive been reading these posts for while and ive also read posts on red pill, seeing that its everywhere.

I would say this to anyone - Just. Be. Yourself.

Firstly who wants to spend their life following someone elses rules? Surely its tiring?

Secondly, yeah you wont be everyone's type but that doesn't matter. There's nearly 3.5 billion women in the world. I know i won't be perfect for every man, and that's more than fine.

So if your naturally alpha, beta, nerd, jerk... lol etc just be it.

Great reply!

The purpose of this forum is to help those who wish to improve their conditions. This improvement (esp. in the area of mental/emotional development) can and should allow one to transcend these labels.

[TheZZMan Moderator Member of the Month Sept 2018PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close TheZZMan]

If the goal of all this is to just bed girls, then fine. Be an ass, self-centered arrogant jerk and have success. If you have no need for an emotional attachment when you sleep with someone then you are on the right path. Problem is, that eventually you are going to run into someone you really do like and care about. Now, you have presented this facade that is the fake you to attract her and now you have to show the real you. Lying is a double edged sword. The more you do it, the more you have to remember what you lied about so that you can perpetuate the fantasy. Eventually the truth comes out.

I truly believe that relationships, interactions with others, basic communications has been destroyed by social media. No one talks anymore, everyone texts, snap chats, instagram, etc. The worst in my book is Tinder. Tinder I don't understand in that ANY girl, cute or homely, can walk into a social event/bar and have dozens of guys interested in her. Why be on a hook-up site when you don't need it? This is the ultimate in narcissistic personality, it is the want of likes, swipes and interest in "me" that drives that. Social media has created this and has destroyed a whole generation because of it.

So, life was simpler 25 years ago. You approached a girl, had a conversation and it progressed. Today, swipe left, swipe right, how many likes, how many followers, here is a picture of the food I'm eating, and on and on into the point of being obsessive and so focused that life slowly slips past you.

Have fun, this generation is way overthinking this. Oh, and the next person that tells me my panties are in a wad and calls me an old man, will get a spanking.

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If the goal of all this is to just bed girls, then fine. Be an ass, self-centered arrogant jerk and have success. If you have no need for an emotional attachment when you sleep with someone then you are on the right path. Problem is, that eventually you are going to run into someone you really do like and care about. Now, you have presented this facade that is the fake you to attract her and now you have to show the real you. Lying is a double edged sword. The more you do it, the more you have to remember what you lied about so that you can perpetuate the fantasy. Eventually the truth comes out.

This is very much in line the the "dark side" of male enhancement- as discussed here: The Emotional Side of Male Enhancement: Being Hurt By Others

[Norseman90 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Norseman90]

No one said anything about alphas being bad people or disrespectful, another stereotype. Women tend to find them arousing.
You are creating stereotypes and making irrational counter arguments to my points. I never said anything about "the truth" being seen by a narcissistic psychopath, there is no correlation between Rollo Tomassis book and dark triad, some of people in the red pill choose to employ dark triad for their own benefit. I NEVER said alpha males are disrespectful or degrading to women, some are, some aren't. Alpha males are also perfectly capable of being in relationships it has nothing to do with how they see guys with money or how they see women, you are putting all of this in negative light because your mind is set.
Your mind has already been set on your beliefs and you aren't going to change them which is fine. I have expressed my beliefs which are mine and not the next red pillers. If you want to understand the real red pill, not the bullshit people post on reddit, just read, "The Rational Male". I am done with this argument.

People will either see it rationally or they wont. Reddit is not a good example of red pill. The rational male as you have pointed out is the perfect example and that's as far down the rabbit hole I go. Other than Richard coopers "entrepreneurs in cars" channel on youtube. (Great channel btw and hes a friend of rollo tomassi). I myself am redpill and have been happily married almost 6 years and things are perfect. My father was redpill by nature and my parents have been together almost 25 years. You wont reach the haters it's pointless to even try. I started this thread simply to see if anyone was into red pill and suddenly the sensitive egos flooded in. The current society we live in does a great job keeping guys entitled blue pill sympathizers. Cheers brother and keep it up

[DickerSchwanz Senior Member Member of the Month Sept 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close DickerSchwanz]

If you go all out "red pill" it will put you off balance same as going all out "blue pill".
The whole red/blue thing is everywhere and you could exchange "pill" with "path" or left(blue) and right(red).

There is a middle path permeating life That one is narrow though

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