WOW! Record gains?? :)

[coffee3400 Member Find all posts View Profile Close coffee3400]

There is no doubt that you have a decent size going on but the fact is with a proper measurement you are no where close to 8.25 inches, you are at the side. It is not the same as the bone on top, with the angle you are at its another 1/4 to half inch of mis-measuring. It is good to measure the same way to track your gains so there is no problem there. I guarentee with a proper bone pressed measure from the top you are at 7 to 7.5 max, no more but that is nothing to be ashamed of. this explains the confusion and guys who have been around know that it was highly unlikely to get the gains you claimed. I understand you were not trying to be deceptive.
You just made a simple mistake and I see why you defended yourself so vigorousy, you thought you measured right. Now we can just move on and you now know how to measure properly. I could get an 8 inch measurement that way but I am 7.00 BPEL, measured correctly.
You have good girth, be happy, you are still far bigger than average.

I am not going to be hard headed and be in denial but i will man up and say that you are absolutely right! However i still made some big gains. I did the measurement exactly how you said, put the ruler right above the penis and pushed in, i got 7.125. That would still be an inch in two months. I am going to go for 7.5 inches by the end of the month . Thank you so much for putting these measurements in perspective, makes more sense this way. See it pays off being open minded :P

[Stumpy Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Stumpy]

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[schlittle Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close schlittle]

Is this just a thread to pick on the guy? Don't you all think that 14 pages is more than enough to roast this guy? If you believe him fine; if not fine as well.

Yes it seems it is. And it mostly your pathetic fellow moderators who think it's a great idea to pick on the guy.

[schlittle Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close schlittle]

By the way Coffee i still believe you made fast gains. Well done!

[BigO AdministratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close BigO]

I am not going to be hard headed and be in denial but i will man up and say that you are absolutely right! However i still made some big gains. I did the measurement exactly how you said, put the ruler right above the penis and pushed in, i got 7.125. That would still be an inch in two months. I am going to go for 7.5 inches by the end of the month . Thank you so much for putting these measurements in perspective, makes more sense this way. See it pays off being open minded :P

You made great gains, just an oops. You stil gained over an inch and that is very rare. Your gains are fantastic, congratulations and if my posts seemed as if they were to hurt you I am sorry. That was not my intent.

[Cya at 8 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Cya at 8]

Gaining that much, that quickly could only be from improved EQ or a massively thin tunica wall.. I would worry if I gained that much, that quickly to be honest.

[RICKHEEZE Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close RICKHEEZE]

Ahh...so the shlong of the century isn't quite what it seemed to be... On a serious note, Congrats on the gains you have made coffee! You should start a log and so others can track your progress and routine

[coffee3400 Member Find all posts View Profile Close coffee3400]

You made great gains, just an oops. You stil gained over an inch and that is very rare. Your gains are fantastic, congratulations and if my posts seemed as if they were to hurt you I am sorry. That was not my intent.

Don't worry about it, i took no offense to any of the comments.

[Stumpy Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Stumpy]

Yes it seems it is. And it mostly your pathetic fellow moderators who think it's a great idea to pick on the guy.

I don't want to start a flame war schlittle but ...

I think this thread has been extremely important. Coffee was claiming gains of over 2 inches in an extraordinarily short period of time and the great bulk of responders were skeptical. And, as it turns out, their skepticism was ultimately proven correct.

At the very best Coffee has gained 1 inch in a couple of months or so ... still an extraordinary achievement ... but we also need to treat that claim with a level of caution. As Coffee demonstrated, his measurement technique was extremely poor and therefore unreliable, so we can't be sure of the accuracy of his starting measurements. His initial post also indicates very poor starting EQ ... a common predictor of some early and sizable gains.

There seems to be little doubt that Coffee made an impressive gain in a short time. Particularly to his self esteem and sexual confidence. But as so many predicted, the increased penis length was nowhere near the amount he claimed.

The real importance of this thread however, is in guarding the integrity and safety of PE. Especially for new members. If you are a new member who does a search on the forum for "record gains" or even "best gains", Coffee's thread will be the second and third responses respectively. And without labouring this post too much further, that is why people with enough experience have an obligation to question potentially dangerous claims.

As long as it's done with courtesy and respect.

Now we can debate whether the posts remained respectful ... but ultimately, the doubters were proven correct. Coffee's claimed gains were probably in excess of 200% of his actual gains. If that doesn't prove the doubt was warranted schlittle, I'm not sure what does?

[coffee3400 Member Find all posts View Profile Close coffee3400]

Schlittle wasn't defending the fact that i gained over 2 inches, he was arguing the fact that so many people were not even willing to give me a chance when i reported my results just because i was a newbie. I still gained 1 inch in two months along with girth. If i gain another half an inch or so by the end of the month, which is highly unlikely, that is still 1.5 inches in 90 days which is a lot. Schlittle was one of the only ones that was open minded and did not dismiss my case, he just wanted people to hear me out and give me a chance and not automatically shut me down because i was a newbie. I thank schlittle for that and i wish we had more people like him in general that are willing to be open minded and actually look at everything before making conclusions.

[Stumpy Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Stumpy]

Schlittle wasn't defending the fact that i gained over 2 inches, he was arguing the fact that so many people were not even willing to give me a chance when i reported my results just because i was a newbie. I still gained 1 inch in two months along with girth.

Sorry Coffee ... but you and schlittle are completely missing the point.

You weren't challenged because you are a newbie, you were challenged because the results were implausible. And as it turned out, the doubters were right.

Take a look at the success forum. You'll find post after post of newbies reporting their positive gains and getting the congratulations they deserve.

You would have received the same sort of feedback had you not mistakenly, and significantly, over-stated your gains.

[dejaview Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close dejaview]

It was a good story and slightly plausible...but now another significant gain to 8.25 nearly overnight...I'm jumping off this BS ship....

I just came in on the tail end of this thread . My oh My this is one for the books. I applaud the OP for his creativity and measured (excuse the pun) pace throughout this saga. There must have been a wicked grin on his face as he got to the part about going from 7.75" to 8.25" in a matter of days.

I bet all the newbies were wondering wtf are we doing wrong here , if this guy can gain 2 inches in 2 months , why cant we? ......

But nice to know the better judgement of the PEGYM community came to the fore and saw it for what it is ......a crock of the finest s**t ever to appear on this forum...

[CUSP82 Administrator Admin of the Month Dec 2014PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close CUSP82]

Ahh...so the shlong of the century isn't quite what it seemed to be... On a serious note, Congrats on the gains you have made coffee! You should start a log and so others can track your progress and routine

To me the best post on this whole thread; skeptical, polite, and even congradualtory. It is not the first time that gains reported were not what they are and it won't be the last. Instead of having to "prove", just breathe in, breathe out, and move on!

[dejaview Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close dejaview]

I will take pics if you guys want me, ill write something on my penis with a pen and take a pic of it, and then at the end of the month ill do it too. What do you guys want me to draw on my penis. (BTW im dead serious about this, i am not lying.)

Yeah!, you can come on and post your pics of your "recent gains" And if you do , who is to say that you were not always at 8 inches plus from the very beginning ?......
It might not be too far off the mark to suggest that you were or are already pretty big , came on this site to play with people , put up some fictitious claims and keep the whole thing rolling along by staying put and swearing its all true.

Who is right and who is wrong?......nobody can say for sure.....but in the world of science you are wrong until you can prove differently. To substantiate your claims beyond reasonable doubt in this case would require some pictoral evidence for before and after.

On that note, how about using the present pics as a base reference, continue with your PE , then 2 or 3 months from now come back and show us all how things went.

Those naysayers will turn and quickly applaud you if can present your claims with a more acceptable degree of certainty .

[CUSP82 Administrator Admin of the Month Dec 2014PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close CUSP82]

Trust me he didn't come on here to play with people; if he had he would have told us all to go to hell a long time before this. This seems like a nice young man who is eager to try and please and prove. Let us stop the roast that's gone on here and we can all go play somewhere else before I get pissed. Talking about beating a dead horse!