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  • #61
    Originally posted by Trapezius View Post
    Why push it when for so many men this is among the last things they want to know about their womans past. There is very many of these threads here and even otherwise very confident men have problems with this.

    I think KMWylies article is very good.
    https://www.pegym.com/articles/an-op...ers-penis-size
    I'm not trying to "push" anything. My point is men that have this insecurity, just like anyone else with an insecurity, will never move past it until they realize that no one can fix it but them. People every where say and do things that effect other people. We are not going to change that, but we can change how we deal with it. It all depends who you want to give the power to, the person saying negative things or yourself. That's what support is all about, helping people realize they have it within themselves to change their mindset and live a healthier mental life.

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    • #62
      So riddle me this why stay in a relationship with a person actively trying to undermine your confidence?

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Pegasus View Post
        As women commonly use this ploy to break down confidence your assertion does not quite ring true . Though I take your point.
        I don't believe that women use this as a ploy to break down confidence, just like I don't think men purposefully say stupid things like "your wearing that", or "she's hot" or any number of comments I have heard about in front of their significant other to make them feel self conscience about themselves. I am sure there are some B*tches out there that do just like there are some *sshole men. But honestly, more than half the threads on this subject have been from men who have asked their gf about their ex and I think the gf is just trying to have an honest conversation not realizing it will affect him this way.

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        • #64
          "Honest conversation not realizing" . Hmm look it's hard to believe many women are that slow when it comes to interpersonal relationships . Cause lets be honest they would have to be very slow . Strikes me women are usually far quicker on the uptake with interpersonal stuff than men are .
          In any case a lot of the time it is plainly not honest . Stuff like I have had 4 boyfriends and 3 were over 8" . The ludicrous statements about how very huge huuuugge the ex was . Commonly the maths on these statements are at extreame odds and we get them so very often onsite. These women are very plainly not being honest.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Pegasus View Post
            "Honest conversation not realizing" . Hmm look it's hard to believe many women are that slow when it comes to interpersonal relationships . Cause lets be honest they would have to be very slow . Strikes me women are usually far quicker on the uptake with interpersonal stuff than men are .
            In any case a lot of the time it is plainly not honest . Stuff like I have had 4 boyfriends and 3 were over 8" . The ludicrous statements about how very huge huuuugge the ex was . Commonly the maths on these statements are at extreame odds and we get them so very often onsite. These women are very plainly not being honest.
            So you say they just leave their mans clear, that they are small and they don't have to pretend they aren't?.I am agree,is not honestity,is like a mixture of sadism,wish to hurt,and indiference.
            Personally,i wouldn't mind if a woman have small,medium or big tits.I wouldn't care even if a woman with small tits show me her insecurity.But of course,what wouldn't happen,because some womens aren't honest,they just don't make question directly.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Pegasus View Post
              Uh huh lets assume you are right . What about the other 99% of the male population?
              I think the guys who overanalyze good comments are the same guys who get upset about previous larger partner comments.

              I don't recall much discussion pro or con about dick size with women, probably because I'm not fishing for compliments or performing an interrogation, I'm just there to get laid. These guys bring it on themselves, I think.
              Feb. 2014 BPEL 6.8" Girth not measured

              August 2015 BPEL 7.7" MG 5.1" BG 5.8"

              Current NBPEL 7.5" EG 5.4"

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              • #67
                Originally posted by dodgy View Post
                I think the guys who overanalyze good comments are the same guys who get upset about previous larger partner comments.

                I don't recall much discussion pro or con about dick size with women, probably because I'm not fishing for compliments or performing an interrogation, I'm just there to get laid. These guys bring it on themselves, I think.
                Come on don't be like that.You have a 7,5 inches penis.Would be another stoy if you have a 4 or 5 inches one.I believe what i say.And you are not an hypocrit,but don't treat people like dumb mass.I perceive it that way.
                I wish i have your size.You see.Is too different when everybody have different cards.Every pov change a lot.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by dodgy View Post
                  I think the guys who overanalyze good comments are the same guys who get upset about previous larger partner comments.

                  I don't recall much discussion pro or con about dick size with women, probably because I'm not fishing for compliments or performing an interrogation, I'm just there to get laid. These guys bring it on themselves, I think.
                  Uh huh so there is no blame the victim in your statement ? They always bring it on themselves ?
                  Not saying it doesn't happen but you have gone overboard.

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                  • #69
                    This may be a controversial topic or sound feminist, but hear me out on this. It’s not fair to tell women to stay silent about penis size because we (men) don’t want them to hurt us. Then complain that they don’t tell us “no” or “stop” when we want consensual sex. I understand no one should try to hurt the other on purpose, but if men ask women to be honest men need to be able to deal with that. I think communication and understanding how to be a good lover are the best way to deal with that no matter what penis size or vaginal tightness one may have or like to have. There is no right, wrong, good or bad penis size or vagina tightness. There are however good and bad lovers. Which brings me back to the consensual sex part. Not communicating and/or knowing how to love your partner can mean very unsatisfying sex, sexual harassment or even rape. This is exactly why Aziz Ansari, Harvey Weinstein, and former American Olympic Dr. Nasser have been in American news lately.
                    One more thing, we assume that the guy that was bigger wasn’t a PE practitioner. If he was. Wouldn’t that mean PÉ works and we only need to keep practicing PE ourselves? When women say something that’s hurtful we should take a moment before reacting and find confidence in the studies that have been done concluding that if you have 3 inches or more, you’re going to hit the G-spot. Please read KMWylie’s article and google search average penis size, vagina depth and talk to a professional. You’ll see you have nothing to worry about. Don’t believe Porn or anyone who isn’t measuring penis accurately using the terms (NBPEL, BPEL, MEG and etc) without verifying.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Merlin08 View Post
                      This may be a controversial topic or sound feminist, but hear me out on this. It’s not fair to tell women to stay silent about penis size because we (men) don’t want them to hurt us. Then complain that they don’t tell us “no” or “stop” when we want consensual sex. I understand no one should try to hurt the other on purpose, but if men ask women to be honest men need to be able to deal with that. I think communication and understanding how to be a good lover are the best way to deal with that no matter what penis size or vaginal tightness one may have or like to have. There is no right, wrong, good or bad penis size or vagina tightness. There are however good and bad lovers. Which brings me back to the consensual sex part. Not communicating and/or knowing how to love your partner can mean very unsatisfying sex, sexual harassment or even rape. This is exactly why Aziz Ansari, Harvey Weinstein, and former American Olympic Dr. Nasser have been in American news lately.
                      One more thing, we assume that the guy that was bigger wasn’t a PE practitioner. If he was. Wouldn’t that mean PÉ works and we only need to keep practicing PE ourselves? When women say something that’s hurtful we should take a moment before reacting and find confidence in the studies that have been done concluding that if you have 3 inches or more, you’re going to hit the G-spot. Please read KMWylie’s article and google search average penis size, vagina depth and talk to a professional. You’ll see you have nothing to worry about. Don’t believe Porn or anyone who isn’t measuring penis accurately using the terms (NBPEL, BPEL, MEG and etc) without verifying.
                      With all respect,but you don't get it don't you?
                      Do you know how many couples break just for the problem of penis size?A lot,of course i don't have a number but they are a lot.
                      You see,i some relationships,it doens't matter if you are a good lover,a good listener,a good couple,a supportive soul or whatever they call it.There will be always a problem,always.Is so hard to have peace in a relationship.Sure it takes time,but it takes a lot from both sides.
                      Imagine a lover who is a good gf,lover,listener,supportive,funny,but her bf leave her for her breasts size or because she is a little fat.What would you say?
                      You would say: this is bad.
                      Same happens with mans.Some womens get rid of them because,due to their penis size or height for example,they are not man enough.
                      But the other problem remains in the fact that every woman have a different definition of man.Again,we are talking about differents points of view.And again,they want to confuse people.And once again,the MYTH appears again.Myths like:
                      Penis size doesn't matter,personality is the thing people value,is all about attitude etc etc etc.
                      People,we need to be serious about this and realist.
                      Yeah is right,a woman want to be honest but she know that,with her honesty,she can hurt someone.And we don't know if she do it on purpose.Thats the other problem.
                      I mean,being honest,why she would just talk about that precise thing?.You get my point?.
                      I will put an example of myself and i have to say it,i hate talking about myselft.
                      If i can be a good listener,partner,lover,smart,patient,who give a damn about that?
                      who?because im not good looking or tall or well gifted down there.Then why they would pay attention to me?.You see what i mean?.
                      People will always look for something,because is our nature like humans.We are people.

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Merlin08 View Post
                        This may be a controversial topic or sound feminist, but hear me out on this. It’s not fair to tell women to stay silent about penis size because we (men) don’t want them to hurt us. Then complain that they don’t tell us “no” or “stop” when we want consensual sex. I understand no one should try to hurt the other on purpose, but if men ask women to be honest men need to be able to deal with that. I think communication and understanding how to be a good lover are the best way to deal with that no matter what penis size or vaginal tightness one may have or like to have. There is no right, wrong, good or bad penis size or vagina tightness. There are however good and bad lovers. Which brings me back to the consensual sex part. Not communicating and/or knowing how to love your partner can mean very unsatisfying sex, sexual harassment or even rape. This is exactly why Aziz Ansari, Harvey Weinstein, and former American Olympic Dr. Nasser have been in American news lately.
                        One more thing, we assume that the guy that was bigger wasn’t a PE practitioner. If he was. Wouldn’t that mean PÉ works and we only need to keep practicing PE ourselves? When women say something that’s hurtful we should take a moment before reacting and find confidence in the studies that have been done concluding that if you have 3 inches or more, you’re going to hit the G-spot. Please read KMWylie’s article and google search average penis size, vagina depth and talk to a professional. You’ll see you have nothing to worry about. Don’t believe Porn or anyone who isn’t measuring penis accurately using the terms (NBPEL, BPEL, MEG and etc) without verifying.
                        I have been onsite for years and as I said earlier many women are not being honest , they are clearly trying to break men down. Your whole premise is based on women always being honest and they very often are not.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Pegasus View Post
                          "Honest conversation not realizing" . Hmm look it's hard to believe many women are that slow when it comes to interpersonal relationships . Cause lets be honest they would have to be very slow . Strikes me women are usually far quicker on the uptake with interpersonal stuff than men are.
                          There's probably very many reasons why woman says something like that and one is being very inconsiderate and slow.

                          I think in my case my wife was just very inconsiderate and slow. If I remember right she had just asked my penis size and I told her my bpel was 6.3". Then she said it casually "x had huge cock. Measured once and it was almost 10 inch. He didn't know how to use it. Just tried to bottom out, it hurted. I bled after every time".

                          She really never measured and probly it wasn't nearly 10", but still significantly bigger than my 6 incher. I've asked why she said those things and she can't tell the reason because she don't remember such conversation (it happened 12 years ago). But admits that it was very stupid from her to say it.

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                          • #73
                            No one is saying that some women don't say things in order to get a reaction, I just think some are too naive to know that when they do say something about the ex being bigger that it is such a personal attack on their current bf. As Trap said, his wife doesn't even remember saying it, probably because at the time she was confiding in him about how painful it was for her. Her focus of the conversation was not about the size, it was about the experience. One where she believed the size was the cause of her discomfort.

                            I truly feel bad about the men who have found women that purposely degrade them. There are people in this world that will say things with the intent to do harm, usually to feel better about themselves or feel as though they have control. I personally don't have time for these type of people in my life. I dismiss them from my life.

                            I only want these men that have been hurt by such comments to gain back some power for themselves. Assess the situation - and make a decision. Is this a person worth your time and effort to be with? Take the comments with a grain of salt after all, she is with you and not him for a reason. If it is because she can play mind games, its time to move on. If it was an honest discussion, especially if you prompted it, then you need to work on getting past it.

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                            • #74
                              Honestly I never realized women are so critical that they would break up over penis size. It’s clearly a factor. Then they have the tendency to be ignorant or misinformed by penis size. Why can’t we educate them? Using our words, teach them they are probably not measuring men up right or are not aware of the studies that have been done. If they are still refusing to listen, perhaps they just don’t respect men. This is a bigger problem than penis size. The reason they break men down over the size of their penis is wrong. This man could be a future father, husband, teacher, boss, or leader. Even when men are not trying to have sex with a woman, in the back of our mind we’re still worried if we’re being judged. This affects many interactions, not sex related, because the unresolved trauma of being judged by women transcends the bed room and into every day life. It is incredibly important how men and women interact in society of we want healthy communities, nations, companies, and families. The fate of the world was at stake and and two men argued who had the biggest nuclear button. This is how size criticism transcends the bedroom. As men we are responsible for our actions but women need to understand where all of the unresolved trauma is coming from and to be as well read as KMWylie.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Merlin08 View Post
                                Honestly I never realized women are so critical that they would break up over penis size. It’s clearly a factor. Then they have the tendency to be ignorant or misinformed by penis size.
                                On other forums I've seen women write things like this: They are married over decade and have kids and they regret why they married man with such small penis. And regret why they didn't understand importance of penis size. And they talk not even micropenis but example 5" length.

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