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[islander Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close islander]

I don't know your age but be a bit more picky with what woman gets to have your tongue on her. Your lips on her. Your hands on her. Your penis inside of her. She has to be a respectful person FIRST of and to herself. Then you. If she has no self respect you won't get any from her.
A real woman will never talk trash about penis size.
The fact you feel you are good looking and in shape is a great start. You don't need to be a big dick swinging bragger to find and keep a good woman.
Keep the peen healthy and keep your mind proud of yourself. She's right around the corner.

Good luck. Xo

[PanBird Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close PanBird]

Hey shamrock1790,

As a former therapist, may I share my observations based on what you have written thus far?

1) The reason your ex has resorted to making fun of your penis is because she is attempting not only to alleviate her own guilt for cheating but also trying to justify her deplorable behaviour to others.

Now, I highly suspect that you are a good guy who is also attractive, giving her absolutely nothing she could use to blame her infidelity on so she resorted to the one excuse sure to pack a one-two punch; diminishing the size of your manhood. In short, she is simply trying to build herself up by putting you down by any means necessary. This is a very common albeit not very creative method used by those who feel guilt and/or shame. Sadly, as you have just witnessed, acts of cruelty are not gender specific; girls can be just as cruel as guys.

2) Please keep in mind that she is trying to embarrass you simply because she is embarrassed by her infidelity and trying to deflect and shift blame. Stop buying into it otherwise she "wins". The sweetest revenge is to be utterly and completely unaffected by her cruelty. There is no need to sink to her level and resort to demeaning her as she is doing a great job demeaning herself - like an earlier poster said - she is unknowingly conveying that she likely has a rather large vagina.

3) Regarding the aspect of flirting; no worries for that is a skill that is easily learned and by your post (naked girl straddling you), I'm thinking flirting isn't an issue for you anyway.

4) Finally, stop with the negative self-talk, stop giving your personal power over to someone else; especially one so immature and cruel and move forward. Because you, my friend are certainly worth it!

TPW...You never stop suprice us! Where have you been for so long?
Very good points you put out!

Back to topic:
My girlfriend has been depressed for about 8 months, but it's getting better. When I read your post shamrock, I felt like you could need some therapy. I would try with a cognitive behavioral therapy. It focuses on how you should think in certain situations.

Have you heard about mental training? It can make you perform much higher. Why do you think marathon runners run so fast for so long time? It's very much in the head when you're performing the best you can.

One commonly example is this: Try to sit exactly the still. Move your arm straight out, and start moving it behind your back with a circel motion (making a half circle with your arm). Follow your fingers with your eyes, and when you can't go any further, you see where you left and remind it. Now don't move and move your arm the same way, but think that this time you'll go at least 5'' longer. Now see what your head can make you perform higher.

You should work on your confidence, but more on your self esteem. Try to separate those two. Self esteem is that you know your self, that you don't base your feelings and how you feel about yourself on performances. Work it up and welcome to the gym!

[TPW Senior Member Member of the Month Oct 2013 Find all posts View Profile Close TPW]

I know that plenty of girls will be disappointed in your size; and it is much harder to please them and fuck them with your size than if you had a couple more inches ....

People on here want to so badly comfort each other on how penis size doesn't matter to girls ... well it does to a lot of girls ... especially the younger ones ....

I first joined on here in part due to my last extreme love interest leaving me for a guy who supposedly was much thicker than my 4.7 MSG, and longer. I was almost 8 inches. I know for a fact a great deal of her attraction to him was his huge dick because I was very close to her and we've always been very open and I always could read her like a book. Now she's a more extreme case of being a size queen, but most girls at least will be disappointed by a penis that's barely 5 by 5 inches. I mean I remember her telling me about a guy she fucked who was very attractive but then had a tiny 4.5 inch dick and she couldn't tell it was in and just wanted it all to be over and for him to leave. And she's a 4'10 98 pound asian girl. These are real girls with real issues with smaller dicks. Now she's not a bad person just because she much prefers well hung men ...

A lot of people say it's not most girls care about having that huge dick, or needing a big one, but they need a certain amount. I think we should at least admit that the majority of girls at least do care that they guy be at least averagely endowed ... and I don't know if 5 inches cuts it.

I don't like being negative Nancy but I am whatever I'm needed to be, and when the rest of the forum seems to want to undersell a guy's problem to him then I'm in that role.

Shit I grew up with terrible skin. I didn't need someone to tell me lies about how its ok and girls don't care. I knew they did and that was a fact of life. Just like a significantly small penis is a turn off for most girls. The ridicule I faced every day from kids and females was worse than many of yall can imagine. Don't think I'm some heartless cocky prick (pun intended) because I'm saying he's got somewhat of an issue. I know what it's like. At least not everyone knows you're issue.

Now if you are 5 inches in girth, you're already above average there. Within not too long of time of pe you should be able to reach great girth (5.5+)

Really, a lot of what a girl feels is the first portion of the vagina and with your girth, you should be able to please a female pretty well even if you are short in the length. So maybe the best thing would be to fuck the girl first without her seeing it, then get what that felt like in her head, then she can later see it afterwards. Otherwise she might see it and already paint the experience as going to be negative and then perceive it to be worse when it goes down than it really was. Just an idea.

Main point, 5 inches BPEL is small, and many girls will be off put by it, don't let these people make you think it's all in your head, it's not, but you have adequate girth and length to please them even still. Plus if you stuck with pe, you'd have a great dick before you knew it!

Hey Moving Up,

I would like to address a few of your points, if I may:

I appreciate your attempt to speak on behalf of the entire female gender; but as you are not one, how could you possibly know exactly what they are thinking and more importantly, what disappoints them during sex? Heck I'm a female and a sex blogger and I don't even know what the desired penis size preference is for every female because, frankly, it's different for every single one of us. Some women, for example, have a short vaginal canal making sex uncomfortable with even an "average-sized" penis. Also, sexual pleasure involves far more than penetrative sex as most adept lovers know. If men rely solely on their penis to provide pleasure for women, sex quickly becomes very one-dimensional and boring - so the girl is unlikely to stick around for long anyway, regardless of size.

Now, although the truth of whether or not size matters to women has been discussed ad nauseam on this site, I will repeat it yet again. Yes; penis size does matter to women...somewhat. However, the issue of penis size is much more of an issue to men than it is to women. True story. Also, keep in mind that most women do not go around measuring penises so they often have absolutely no idea what they want/need in relation to inches...and it would help a great deal if guys would stop lying about their size as well.

Now, you state that people on here want so badly to comfort each other like that is a bad thing. Isn't that the primary reason for this forum? To offer information, assistance, encouragement, support and yes, even comfort when needed to members as they strive for a better, healthier, more satisfactory penis? No one here is lying, we have no need to; what personal gain could we have in deceiving some unknown individual?

Also...why oh why...when people claim to be the "voice of reason" that the information they provide is always negative? "Reality" and negativity are not synonymous; they are not mutually inclusive! The truth is "reality" is completely subjective and based on personal experience. So when one assumes the role of "reason" I am always sure to take the information with a grain of salt.

Also, if you don't want to be a "Negative Nancy" then stop being one. You can offer your wonderful insight and wisdom in a much more optimistic manner can you not? No, you will not need to lie to an individual; your role is simply to acknowledge the problem but then shift them toward possible solutions. This will empower rather than diminish them and that is far more productive than just a quick "reality check" wouldn't you agree?

[anonymity Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close anonymity]

Moving Up
"I know that plenty of girls will be disappointed in your size; and it is much harder to please them and fuck them with your size than if you had a couple more inches "....


Amen sister TPW! Thankyou. I found the previous post to be misleading, over generalizing, and insulting. Honestly, go project your issues somewhere else.

[MovingUp Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close MovingUp]

Hey Moving Up,

I would like to address a few of your points, if I may:

I appreciate your attempt to speak on behalf of the entire female gender; but as you are not one, how could you possibly know exactly what they are thinking and more importantly, what disappoints them during sex? Heck I'm a female and a sex blogger and I don't even know what the desired penis size preference is for every female because, frankly, it's different for every single one of us.

OH REALLY? DIFFERENT FOR EVERYONE? WHAT NEWS! Not another one of these ... Look, yes I know SOME portion of women want different. In almost every discussion you have someone pull the "well not everyone's like that card" ... as If I was saying they were ... but I didn't. So mentioning it like you did is moot.

Some women, for example, have a short vaginal canal making sex uncomfortable with even an "average-sized" penis. Also, sexual pleasure involves far more than penetrative sex as most adept lovers know. If men rely solely on their penis to provide pleasure for women, sex quickly becomes very one-dimensional and boring - so the girl is unlikely to stick around for long anyway, regardless of size.

Again when did I claim it only involved the penis, or should only involve the penis? You're arguing a strawman.

You state that people on here want so badly to comfort each other like that is a bad thing. Isn't that the primary reason for this forum? To offer information, assistance, encouragement, support and yes, even comfort when needed to members as they strive for a better, healthier, more satisfactory penis? No one here is lying, we have no need to; what personal gain could we have in deceiving some unknown individual?

It's bad when comfort someone while painting their problem less severe than it is. Plenty of people are willing to deceive if it means make the person feel better. It's the primary reason fake psychics you see on tv are able to reationalize their work because they are giving false hope that makes the person feel better. Same thing here to a lesser degree.

Also...why oh why...when people claim to be the "voice of reason" that the information they provide is always negative? "Reality" and negativity are not synonymous; they are not mutually exclusive! The truth is "reality" is completely subjective and based on personal experience. So when one assumes the role of "reason" I am always sure to take the information with a grain of salt.

Actually what you meant to say was mutually inclusive. Maybe people claim to be the voice of reason and be negative because they feel it helps the knee jerk reaction of hearing something negative ... And if you wanted to debate epistomology with me we can somewhere else

Also, if you don't want to be a "Negative Nancy" then stop being one. You can offer your wonderful insight and wisdom in a much more optimistic manner. No, you will not need to lie to an individual; your role is simply to acknowledge the problem but then shift them toward possible solutions. This will empower rather than diminish them and that is far more productive than just a quick "reality check" wouldn't you agree?

Honestly why did you say this last paragraph? You really didn't see my solutions at the end of the post? I pointed out the problem and shifted towards possible ways to help ... Your whole post was just plain full of holes. You're a smart blogger, where did she go?

Response in blue.

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Moving Up
"It's bad when comfort someone while painting their problem less severe than it is. Plenty of people are willing to deceive if it means make the person feel better. It's the primary reason fake psychics you see on tv are able to reationalize their work because they are giving false hope that makes the person feel better. Same thing here to a lesser degree."

You know a real leader always encourages right? "It's okay buddy, your alright, you can do this, it ain't nothin." NOT "holy shit man you do suck, they hate you out there, wow you got a long way to go man." I think that would be like the worst coaching I could imagine.

[GoingForGold Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close GoingForGold]

If penis size is an issue(too small OR too big) in sex, you aren't doing it right. Trust me, I'm much more huge than you are small and only have problems when the mood isn't right. You aren't even that tiny...

Men want to believe penis size is so important so that they won't have to face what is really important: Personality, looks, and confidence. You won't even get to use your penis if you don't have one of those.

[TPW Senior Member Member of the Month Oct 2013 Find all posts View Profile Close TPW]

Moving Up,

I appreciate your responses in your bright shiny blue; thank you for clarifying your post.
And thank you for pointing out my typo, I have since corrected it.
And with regards to whether or not I am a "smart blogger"? Well, darlin' that is entirely up to your subjective perceptions and has little effect on mine.

Have yourself a nice day.

[draggin Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close draggin]

Ive slept with 5 women that I can remember in 3 years lol and none of those times have i felt like "the awesome man I am" haha

Shamrock, you are Da Man! You know it too!

Confidence is what women want. It's in you buddy, even if you have to fake till you make it, so to speak. Go get'em buddy!

[draggin Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close draggin]

I know that plenty of girls will be disappointed in your size; and it is much harder to please them and fuck them with your size than if you had a couple more inches ....

Movingup ... Listenup!

if penis size is so important, than you must be really dissapointed in yourself. "shamrock1790"'s penis stats are bigger and better than yours. That's right. His measurements will please every woman more than you could - if you only consider size. That's because it is girth that makes women's eyes roll back in their head, not length.

You are laughing, but it's true. I stared PE at 4.9 girth. I went up to 5.5 girth. Holy shit, Girth made my wife feel tighter, Girth is why she says "slow down, you're hurting me", Girth is what gives my wife hard orgasms. Length doesn't mean shit. It's all EQ and girth, and you know it too. I know what I am saying, and my wife's moans and groans are proof.

So stop telling other guys a little penis won't satisfy women, because your penis is smaller than his. Fortrunately, for you, it's not the size that matters. It's what your penis is attached to that matters. In your case, let's just say, you have a lot of work to do.

[draggin Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close draggin]

Moving Up,

I appreciate your responses in your bright shiny blue; thank you for clarifying your post.
And thank you for pointing my out typo, I have since corrected it.
And with regards to whether or not I am a "smart blogger"? Well, darlin' that is entirely up to your subjective perceptions and has little effect on mine.

Have yourself a nice day.

You are a classy chick. First class all the way. Thanks TPW.

[MovingUp Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close MovingUp]

Movingup ... Listenup!

if penis size is so important, than you must be really dissapointed in yourself. "shamrock1790"'s penis stats are bigger and better than yours. That's right. His measurements will please every woman more than you could - if you only consider size. That's because it is girth that makes women's eyes roll back in their head, not length.

You are laughing, but it's true. I stared PE at 4.9 girth. I went up to 5.5 girth. Holy shit, Girth made my wife feel tighter, Girth is why she says "slow down, you're hurting me", Girth is what gives my wife hard orgasms. Length doesn't mean shit. It's all EQ and girth, and you know it too. I know what I am saying, and my wife's moans and groans are proof.

So stop telling other guys a little penis won't satisfy women, because your penis is smaller than his. Fortrunately, for you, it's not the size that matters. It's what your penis is attached to that matters. In your case, let's just say, you have a lot of work to do.

Boy do you need to not try to be clever ever again on here. Because this failed miserably. Firstly my post explained how he had good girth that could please women even at his length. Reading comprehension not so swell is it draggin? and my girth is better than his .. Mid shaft is 5.2 and base is around 5.8 -6. That is above 5 is it not? Unable to read a signature are you? Boy another reading comprehension issue. Hooked on phonics works wonders I hear.

Also hitting the deep spots is a big advantage to have when you are long enough. Sorry you haven't realized that yet. Maybe a little longer and you'll hit it.

I already know how important girth is and that's why I work so hard on it.


Goodluck in your future endeavors of trying to sound clever though.

[MovingUp Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close MovingUp]

Moving Up
"It's bad when comfort someone while painting their problem less severe than it is. Plenty of people are willing to deceive if it means make the person feel better. It's the primary reason fake psychics you see on tv are able to reationalize their work because they are giving false hope that makes the person feel better. Same thing here to a lesser degree."

You know a real leader always encourages right? "It's okay buddy, your alright, you can do this, it ain't nothin." NOT "holy shit man you do suck, they hate you out there, wow you got a long way to go man." I think that would be like the worst coaching I could imagine.

If a leader's company was heading for a trap he wouldn't say keep going you're doing great! He'd make them aware of the upcoming issue and give them an alternative course of action. If you read my whole post, you'd see I did that.

[ColtAR-15 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ColtAR-15]

That's because it is girth that makes women's eyes roll back in their head, not length.

You are laughing, but it's true. I stared PE at 4.9 girth. I went up to 5.5 girth. Holy shit, Girth made my wife feel tighter, Girth is why she says "slow down, you're hurting me", Girth is what gives my wife hard orgasms. Length doesn't mean shit. It's all EQ and girth, and you know it too. I know what I am saying, and my wife's moans and groans are proof. .

But,but...... I thought the consensus here is that size doesn't matter. Lol. I have trouble believing you would be saying the same thing if the OP said he had a 4" girth. The "truth" here is constantly being redefined depending on the current circumstances. What a joke!

[ColtAR-15 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ColtAR-15]

I know that plenty of girls will be disappointed in your size; and it is much harder to please them and fuck them with your size than if you had a couple more inches ....

People on here want to so badly comfort each other on how penis size doesn't matter to girls ... well it does to a lot of girls ... especially the younger ones ....

I first joined on here in part due to my last extreme love interest leaving me for a guy who supposedly was much thicker than my 4.7 MSG, and longer. I was almost 8 inches. I know for a fact a great deal of her attraction to him was his huge dick because I was very close to her and we've always been very open and I always could read her like a book. Now she's a more extreme case of being a size queen, but most girls at least will be disappointed by a penis that's barely 5 by 5 inches. I mean I remember her telling me about a guy she fucked who was very attractive but then had a tiny 4.5 inch dick and she couldn't tell it was in and just wanted it all to be over and for him to leave. And she's a 4'10 98 pound asian girl. These are real girls with real issues with smaller dicks. Now she's not a bad person just because she much prefers well hung men ...

A lot of people say it's not most girls care about having that huge dick, or needing a big one, but they need a certain amount. I think we should at least admit that the majority of girls at least do care that they guy be at least averagely endowed ... and I don't know if 5 inches cuts it.

I don't like being negative Nancy but I am whatever I'm needed to be, and when the rest of the forum seems to want to undersell a guy's problem to him then I'm in that role.

Shit I grew up with terrible skin. I didn't need someone to tell me lies about how its ok and girls don't care. I knew they did and that was a fact of life. Just like a significantly small penis is a turn off for most girls. The ridicule I faced every day from kids and females was worse than many of yall can imagine. Don't think I'm some heartless cocky prick (pun intended) because I'm saying he's got somewhat of an issue. I know what it's like. At least not everyone knows you're issue.

Now if you are 5 inches in girth, you're already above average there. Within not too long of time of pe you should be able to reach great girth (5.5+)

Really, a lot of what a girl feels is the first portion of the vagina and with your girth, you should be able to please a female pretty well even if you are short in the length. So maybe the best thing would be to fuck the girl first without her seeing it, then get what that felt like in her head, then she can later see it afterwards. Otherwise she might see it and already paint the experience as going to be negative and then perceive it to be worse when it goes down than it really was. Just an idea.

Main point, 5 inches BPEL is small, and many girls will be off put by it, don't let these people make you think it's all in your head, it's not, but you have adequate girth and length to please them even still. Plus if you stuck with pe, you'd have a great dick before you knew it!

You are never going to be in the "in crowd" here saying stuff like this. You have to say the right things if you ever want to be a "PEGym hero".Lol. Seriously do you know why so few are willing to say things the way you did here. It's not that others don't think the same way. Its because many know that they will be the subject of a online lynching if they say something that is not PC. I however would not have put it as bluntly as you did here, but I am inclined to believe most everything you said here is the truth.

Who would have thought that on a site pretty much dedicated to making your dick bigger would be so dominated by outspoken members who seem to be constantly claiming that there is little to no advantage in having a bigger penis. I just have to laugh. You will learn soon enough that expressing a counter opinion is generally discouraged by the "in crowd" here.