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  • #31
    One thing you need to take into account:

    Women are really bad at estimating penis size. They usually add on about an inch. So if you have 7 inches she'll probably assume it's closer to 8. And so on

    So when you hear stories about the various large penises women have, it's probably not that accurate.

    I seriously doubt many women at all have had an 8 inch penis. Let alone a 10.

    And when they're talking about these huge cocks, they're probably talking about something around 7 x 5

    And finally, nearly all long penises are quite thin. Below average girth. So an 8 inch penis is manageable if it's say 4.75

    The amount of long, thick penises is tiny. And for a women is a different proposition all togethor

    So, read above, when you're wishing you had an 8x6 penis.

    To a women that's really 10x7!

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    • #32
      From what I hear it depends. (take my words with a grain of salt)

      If you manage to hit some deep spots like the cul de sac then it's apparently on a whole other level.
      Other than that it gives a feeling of fullness, but most 8x6 guys can't get it all in. So the 6x5 would have an easier time stimulating the clit with his pubis which increases the intensity. Also, a smaller one can apparently angle better.
      Also, 8x6 seems to be hard to get used to (takes more time, maybe not at all for some girls-just painful) but once they do the orgasms become more intense.
      Someone said after a big one a normal or small sized one doesn't feel 'right', like it's just getting the tip in or something. But after getting used to (if the relationship lasts rather than a hook up) it becomes more enjoyable.

      Again, what's big and small is subjective. I just used the numbers you gave in the OP. I've heard some girls say they loved PIV with a smaller->average one because it was more comfortable and angles worked better. So, it depends on the girl.

      Otherwise, take the word of more experienced people above. I hope even with a small size, I can be a very effective lover with an open mind and all the information.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by kirkoloft View Post
        I hate it when someone dichotomizes people. I believe we only have people, with different backgrounds, attitudes, believes, and experiences. I'm sure you weren't referring to yourself as someone who belongs to #2. If you don't agree with someone, then you don't agree with them, that's it. No need to call them bitter, angry, and bestial. The world would be a much better place if people learned to be more open minded and less condescending.
        Trotsky's posts about women seem very bitter and angry and he does seem to consider them as though they were animals.

        My dichotomizing post was to mimic his dichotomizing and hopefully point out that it's very easy to paint the world in black and white terms, especially when it serves our own beliefs. It was made to point out how he made a ridiculous post with a similarly ridiculous post. Sometimes my sense of humour
        "Know the rules well, so that you may properly break them" - The Dalai Lama
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        • #34
          Originally posted by Steneo View Post
          30 years of age is a magical line then? What biases specifically are you referring to here that appear at 30 years old?
          I'm saying that women under 30 are looking for short term partners and are openly having more sex than previous generations of women.

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          • #35
            Seems like everyone already has good responses, and I probably can't add much, other than to say that my experiences tend to show what the replies are, that some ladies care about size and some don't. In general, I would probably say that more don't care than do, even most that say they do, perhaps.

            I might just note also that it seems a woman's opinion of what's big, and a guys opinion, is quite different. Mostly it seems that women consider an average size to be large, so when a woman tells me they like it big, it usually just means average. I guess they have different perceptions or just different baselines for judging size.
            jstane45
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            • #36
              Just to be a stickler Jstane, with 2 things being compared, more is also most ... lol ...
              Starting Stats

              Nov 26 2012

              7.5 BPEL
              4.7 MSEG
              5.1 BEG
              4.3 EGBH

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              8.25 BPEL
              5.2 MSEG

              5.8 BEG
              4.2 EHeadG

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              • #37
                Hey guys, young woman over here just popping in to give my opinion on this. Size doesn't matter to me unless it's abnormally small (I'm tall, so 'can't reach' syndrome is the worst) or large (just doesn't fit, slight concern about rips and tears). My previous boyfriends have all been large (they said around 8 inches, but I am indeed bad with measurements. Anyway, they were big) and intercourse was mediocre because neither of them had any technique or idea what women liked and took tips as criticism. The best sex I've ever had was with a man with an average, or slightly small penis (about 5" if my exs were 8") because he was fully experienced with different positions, what to do with it and the right way to act to get what he wanted. It was physically a much better experience than just having something rammed against my cervix for a few minutes. Naturally preferences vary amongst women just like breast preference varies amongst men, but personally I don't care what size it is as long as the man himself has enough knowledge about what to do with it - and that's not a cliché to make anybody feel better, that's my preference.
                “Spirituality is not to be learned by flight from the world. We must learn an inner solitude wherever or with whomsoever we may be. We must learn to penetrate things and find God there.” - Eckhart


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                • #38
                  Originally posted by jstane45 View Post
                  Seems like everyone already has good responses, and I probably can't add much, other than to say that my experiences tend to show what the replies are, that some ladies care about size and some don't. In general, I would probably say that more don't care than do, even most that say they do, perhaps.

                  I might just note also that it seems a woman's opinion of what's big, and a guys opinion, is quite different. Mostly it seems that women consider an average size to be large, so when a woman tells me they like it big, it usually just means average. I guess they have different perceptions or just different baselines for judging size.
                  Good point. I've been called 'huge' before and I really am not (its big but not huge to me). It seems as though you take 1 inch off what a man thinks is big or huge and you get what a women would call those things.

                  I think it is because you need to remember average is just that...for every one above, one is below (so to speak). So it may be 5-5.5 el is average say. But if a girl has 4 partners before you than one almost certainly was 5 el at most, if not sub 5. Suddenly your 6el looks big and your 6.5+el 'huge'. Aren't numbers fun!
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                  (18/7/13) BPEL 7.0 MEG 5.6 BEG 6.0.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by heretohelp View Post
                    Hey guys, young woman over here just popping in to give my opinion on this. Size doesn't matter to me unless it's abnormally small (I'm tall, so 'can't reach' syndrome is the worst) or large (just doesn't fit, slight concern about rips and tears). My previous boyfriends have all been large (they said around 8 inches, but I am indeed bad with measurements. Anyway, they were big) and intercourse was mediocre because neither of them had any technique or idea what women liked and took tips as criticism. The best sex I've ever had was with a man with an average, or slightly small penis (about 5" if my exs were 8") because he was fully experienced with different positions, what to do with it and the right way to act to get what he wanted. It was physically a much better experience than just having something rammed against my cervix for a few minutes. Naturally preferences vary amongst women just like breast preference varies amongst men, but personally I don't care what size it is as long as the man himself has enough knowledge about what to do with it - and that's not a cliché to make anybody feel better, that's my preference.
                    Great post. Very honest and seems to marry with other women say. My gf is very honest also and said a few things that may help others reading this thread:
                    1. Big penis doens't equal good sex. Bad sex can ruin a relationship, penis size by itself can't unless the penis is so small or so big it makes good sex impossible. So it does matter but not how men think.
                    2. Women can't tell size worth a damn (or most men without a ruler). If a guys says they have a 8in penis it could be 7 or even 6....
                    3. Know how to use what you have. She says in my case doggy is not so good as i am too girthy unless she is very wet, but missionary with her legs over my shoulders is amazing.

                    For me i fully accept that while i have above average length and very good girth i want 8x6 for my own aesthetic as much if not more than my partners pleasure. In fact i keep on checking with her that it doesn't hurt as i gain (very slowly) and i would stop if she said it was bad.

                    So is a big dink better? For most men, yes. For most women, no. Not because they can't tell difference but because they have so many other things to focus on. Men are penis obsessed, women aren't.
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                    (18/7/13) BPEL 7.0 MEG 5.6 BEG 6.0.

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                    • #40
                      Just to be honest most guys can not tell size worth a shit either, how many times has a guy asked what we think his size is. I can not usually tell unless he has a ruler next to it in the picture.

                      I think my wife likes my dick since I started PE but I know that she also liked it before I started PE as well. It comes down to individual likes and dislikes and if a woman likes a big pee pee then she likes a big pee pee.

                      I love big breasts and I always will but I have had girlfriends with smaller ones and it did not make me love them less. I liked the lady because of how we got a long together. If my wife (God forbid) were to completely lose her boobies I would still love her just as much. If her vagina got loose all of a sudden yep, I would still love her just as much.
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                      Going an inch and 1/2 deeper than before

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                      • #41
                        I asked my gf if size matters, she said: "Well, no it doesn't matter, but it's not bad that yours is big"

                        So, it's fine with a smaller one too.
                        “I keep six honest serving men (they taught me all i knew); Theirs names are What and Why and When And How And Where and Who.” - Rudyard Kipling

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                        • #42
                          I think that women act like it's not important that much, but in reality it's very important and guys with big ones now that well. It's not a coincidence that guys with bigger tools always have traffic in their beds, and they can seduce girls very easily. In general it is that with bigger tool you'll get her in bed 'on the fly' and after you deliver her loads of orgasms she'll come back for more. More problematic than women clearly lying about this is, they haven't experienced bigger one, or simply aren't AWARE of it and there is always space for being delusional. For instance, have a big dink and deliver her orgasms and she'll think she's in love with you and similar emotional things which would never occur, if you didn't have a big one.It's very primal, I think. The best objective measure is math, because it can not lie. So if we did some statistics on male population of number of sexual partners and sexual encounters and put it under gauss distribution, I think attractive looking guys (tall, handsome..) would be right in the middle and guys with big dinks would closely follow them.

                          Some random quote from a well endowed guy:
                          Well mine is 9 inches long and 6.5 inches in circumfrence fully erect. Two different girls have measured it at 2 different times and both did it correctly. I hasten to add that it was their requests, certainly not mine. In retrospect it was a "double edged sword" for letting them do it. The reason is because I live in an average sized town and although one of the girls was very discreet about telling only a few close friends ( female ), the other girl blabbed it all over the place not only about my size but also that I have very good technique with it. Now while it's flattering to have that kind of known about me, it does present a few pros and cons. The pros being that it IS easier to get more girls in bed and get sex virtually "on tap". The cons are that I've hooked up with several girls where I've been completely honest before the sex and made it clear it was going to be a one time only thing. Well, several girls didn't like that and thought they were going to make me their boyfriend or one and only and I am definitely not ready to settle down. Which leads into the scenario of maybe wanting to settle down in the future but wondering if a certain, particular girl wants me for me or just for my penis.

                          One other advantage I have had is getting the girls that I have had longer relationships with to stop shaving their armpit and pubic hair...yes I am different that way than most guys, hair in those areas of a girl's body will get my 9 incher hard as a rock in about 2.5 seconds, just the way my brain has always worked. The way it works is getting a girl into bed a few times, totally f*ck*ng her brains out, and giving her the best orgasms of her life. Believe me a girl wants to hold on to a guy with my kind of size who is capable of doing that. So after a few sexual encounters I tell them that it would really turn me on even more if they stopped shaving their armpit and pubic hair, they're almost always eager to comply because they want to hold on to something real good. I have been told by the majority of the girls I've convinced to stop shaving that they only did it because of my size and how good I work it. So, I'm not trying to sound like some kind of stud here or the world's greatest lover or anything, I'm just trying to illustrate that size + great technique = a hard combination to beat and sexually speaking can get you pretty much what you want

                          Originally posted by heretohelp View Post
                          Hey guys, young woman over here just popping in to give my opinion on this. Size doesn't matter to me unless it's abnormally small (I'm tall, so 'can't reach' syndrome is the worst) or large (just doesn't fit, slight concern about rips and tears). My previous boyfriends have all been large (they said around 8 inches, but I am indeed bad with measurements. Anyway, they were big) and intercourse was mediocre because neither of them had any technique or idea what women liked and took tips as criticism. The best sex I've ever had was with a man with an average, or slightly small penis (about 5" if my exs were 8") because he was fully experienced with different positions, what to do with it and the right way to act to get what he wanted. It was physically a much better experience than just having something rammed against my cervix for a few minutes. Naturally preferences vary amongst women just like breast preference varies amongst men, but personally I don't care what size it is as long as the man himself has enough knowledge about what to do with it - and that's not a cliché to make anybody feel better, that's my preference.
                          You say it's not that much about size and that you don't like big, but ALL your BFs had big dinks. Coincidence?I don't think so. You're in denial or just instinctively like bigger dinks.
                          Mawerick
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                          • #43
                            Girls who have seen photos/vids of mine think it's 'big/huge', I think the girth helps with that though. Apparently girth is better than length anyway so I'll take it I guess haha.
                            Current Stats

                            FL: 3.75"
                            FG: 3.5"
                            SFL: 5.5"

                            NBEL: 6.5"
                            BPEL: 7.3"
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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Mawerick View Post
                              I think that women act like it's not important that much, but in reality it's very important and guys with big ones now that well. It's not a coincidence that guys with bigger tools always have traffic in their beds, and they can seduce girls very easily. In general it is that with bigger tool you'll get her in bed 'on the fly' and after you deliver her loads of orgasms she'll come back for more. More problematic than women clearly lying about this is, they haven't experienced bigger one, or simply aren't AWARE of it and there is always space for being delusional. For instance, have a big dink and deliver her orgasms and she'll think she's in love with you and similar emotional things which would never occur, if you didn't have a big one.It's very primal, I think. The best objective measure is math, because it can not lie. So if we did some statistics on male population of number of sexual partners and sexual encounters and put it under gauss distribution, I think attractive looking guys (tall, handsome..) would be right in the middle and guys with big dinks would closely follow them.

                              Some random quote from a well endowed guy:





                              You say it's not that much about size and that you don't like big, but ALL your BFs had big dinks. Coincidence?I don't think so. You're in denial or just instinctively like bigger dinks.
                              Actually, yes, it was. I had no idea what size their penises were until we were already in the relationship.
                              heretohelp
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                              Last edited by heretohelp; 02-12-2014, 08:53 AM.
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                              • #45
                                It's no coincidence that guys with bigger tools have more traffic in their bed, because our society is bent on this. There are girls out there who care about a big dick as much as guys do. There are women out there that have only felt pleasure from having a big dick because the guys know nothing about how to pleasure a woman, mentally, emotionally and physically. There's young chicks out there that watch porn and want to get fucked like a porn star. Even though in reality, most porn is a joke. But you know, society and influence is a big thing.

                                I don't give two shits how much traffic I have in my bed. I give two shits that it's the best time I can have when I have it and give the best I possibly can. I've never had complaints and I've had lots of ego boosting.

                                And you know what? Not once was it about how big my cock was, but instead, how amazing I was in bed. How sensual, how I knew exactly what to do, how I've given women pleasure no other man could, how I turn them on more than any man ever has.

                                Not that my cock was the biggest they ever had, or that they love my big fat cock, I'm sure that would be a nice ego boost, but the reality is, I give them the best feelings they ever had. I've only had one compliment on the size of my penis, and that was just "how does it get so big like that?" and it's primarily because I'm a grower. Not that my dick is huge, but that it grows like 4 inches when I get hard.

                                And like the dude up above, if I had a 9 incher, I'm sure they'd love it all the more and compliment my cock a shit ton as well. But I don't need it to be a good lover. And I know women don't need it to be satisfied. I'm sure they all think about it and want it and wonder, but you know, when I'm with a girl the best thing I can do is make her lose her mind, meaning stop thinking about anything but what I'm doing and how good she feels. My mission is complete.

                                I can see how being good in bed can also hurt a man. Especially if that's all women want from you. I pride myself in making sure I give pleasure, but it's also a bad thing. Sometimes women think it's from experience, when really it is just from research. Sometimes women only want me for what I do to them in bed and miss out on who I am, but it's natural. We were young, the sex was fun and good and they had a great time and liked it.

                                But lets not forget, women are shallow, insecure, promiscuous beings too. I've thought numerous times about making a thread to rant about shit we hate that women constantly do. I dislike a lot of aspects about women, but at the same time, I highly respect them as well. And in that, I know I will find a woman who feels the same as me, has the same judgement on life and respects themselves as I do and will really appreciate the pleasure I give her.

                                My mission isn't to have a sleeve covered in ticks of girls on my dick. It's to have one tick, one woman who understands me, loves me and supports me. Is there for me through thick and thin and gives me what I want and I will do my utmost best to give her what she wants.

                                Until then, I don't get involved unless I can see it being a serious thing. And I've had it multiple times in my life, so people who think you'll never find women who feel or share the same morals as me towards their bodies or sex, just don't find them. I've met and had many women who are attracted to me who didn't feel the same as me, and I never got with them. I have self control and some chick that waves her pussy in my face isn't going to get my dick right away because it feels good. Feels better if I'm in love.
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