Anyone tried frozen bovine orchic extract?

[Excellator Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Excellator]

Wow, I didn't know that. Will definitely get some vitamin A then. Is EDTA useful though to chelate the molybdenum from the brain?

[P4yn3 Member Find all posts View Profile Close P4yn3]

Wow, I didn't know that. Will definitely get some vitamin A then. Is EDTA useful though to chelate the molybdenum from the brain?

Just read about magnesium being vital for pituitary/HPA axis. Not sure if it's true:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3198864/

[Excellator Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Excellator]

Molybdenum is a strong magnesium antagonist so it could possibly be the reason I feel so cranky in the front part of my brain. I will dose magnesium alot over the coming few days and see if it helps. And will be opting for EDTA still tho.

[P4yn3 Member Find all posts View Profile Close P4yn3]

Woke up after the magnesium glycinate (500 mg). Had a very good sleep, didn't get that REM-type yet. It may be because I'm still recovering from the melatonin in the old magnesium oxide pills. Still, I woke up early and had a good rest. I woke up noticeably aroused, I had also taken an orchic before sleeping.

I am slowly figuring out how much orchic I need to take. I'm looking forward to december/january when I'll be done with school and working full time. Then I can afford to mega dose them.

My testes seem to have grown a bit. They've been hardened the last 2.5 days and my right testicle (which was always smaller) has definitely grown a solid 15%.

[bloke84 Member Find all posts View Profile Close bloke84]

Not much of an update from me, but feel really warm and confident and increased libido. I also noticed much better flow when urinating and much less urge to kegal the last bit out.

[Excellator Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Excellator]

I think I have it figured. You were right on the ammonium. After some Google searches I see that ammonium is very poisonous to the brain and especially in those which liver can't handle it. I have never done a liver flush, but I have used alot of stuff in my life which can be damaging and toxic to the liver.

I drank alot of water yesterday and things feel a bit better.

I'm going to do a liver flush I think.

[bloke84 Member Find all posts View Profile Close bloke84]

Do you think there is any risk of a similar effect like when you stop trt if you stop taking the orchic?

[P4yn3 Member Find all posts View Profile Close P4yn3]

Update:

So yesterday I had taken 3 maybe 4 orchics. I actually didn't keep track properly and I took an additional orchic at night because the magnesium has a laxative side effect so I thought I wasted one orchic.



Woah, major sex drive increase. Morning wood, extreme hornyness, everything. I also slept very late and woke up with a slight headache. Also balls have stayed hard for several days now. EQ VERY strong, but comes in waves.

Despite that, sex drive is very good. Now I gotta deal with this headache...

[Excellator Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Excellator]

I have to give out this warning: I received one comment by a supplements, testosterone and vitamins expert on an online board who said that orchic "doesn't work in humans, and destroys the LH and FSH distribution in the pituitary, and if it were to work it had to be injected intravenously". Though I cannot judge if he's right or wrong, I still put this up here as a general warning, and for discussion.

[Excellator Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Excellator]

Do you think there is any risk of a similar effect like when you stop trt if you stop taking the orchic?

I saw this question being asked on a bodybuilders forum and they said that the amount of actual testosterone in orchic gland concentratie is way too low to induce withdrawal effects as are seen with the big dosages of testosterone used in TRT.

[P4yn3 Member Find all posts View Profile Close P4yn3]

Quick update, I haven't really been doing a whole lot of porn watching but when I do I notice my erections are 100% strong. It requires very little stimulation to go to 100%. I love it!

[Excellator Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Excellator]

Nice dude. Could you comment on your thoughts so far about the restorative properties of orchic gland? Do you think that if you were to quit them, you would keep benefits? If so, what exactly? Thnx dude

[P4yn3 Member Find all posts View Profile Close P4yn3]

Nice dude. Could you comment on your thoughts so far about the restorative properties of orchic gland? Do you think that if you were to quit them, you would keep benefits? If so, what exactly? Thnx dude

I think the orchic builds up in your system. I've been nofapping so I must have a lot of build-up. I read in the Amazon reviews of ovarian that people that stopped taking it still had estrogen-like effects. I'm assuming the orchic can do the same. This isn't like taking a vitamin or nutrient that dissapears after excretion.

Update: I've been having severe sleep issues since I started taking the magnesium glycinate. I am wondering if it's causing it. I had to orgasm last night in order to sleep. I'm wondering if the orchic is causing a build-up of amyloid fibrils in my brain giving me sleep issues. I'm going to quit the magnesium for now and see what happens.

The orgasm was huge btw. I haven't even been taking any semen supplements like zinc, celery, lecithin, etc. My diet has been pretty meh these past few days to. Nonetheless it was still a large amount, maybe Peter North sized and broke the paper tissue I was using, lol.

[Excellator Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Excellator]

Estrogen like effects after quitting? That sucks dude.

[Excellator Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Excellator]

Stop the magnesium if it causes trouble sleeping. It's odd because it's supposed to do the opposite. Make sleep better. Might be the glycine form or glycine that causes trouble. Anyways, try quitting it yeah.