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I take testosterone daily and in my last test they came back within the normal range. -
That is not a number.Originally posted by dicklimppen View Post
So you have issues obviously with test? Or are you a bodybuilder?Comment
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Why not try it anyway. There's enough anecdotal evidence to support it's efficacy, and compared to other treatments it's inexpensive. Another touted herb is Horse Chestnut. This herb is supposed to be good for promoting blood vessel integrity.Originally posted by dicklimppen View PostWant a FREE Month of Coaching? PM or email me for details- or CLICK HERE
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Venous leak routinely disapates when low testosterone is brought into optimal rangeOriginally posted by dicklimppen View PostComment
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I've been on testosterone for a number of years already.Originally posted by Pegasus View Post
What is the optimal range?
Can you point me to a study where they've found that?Comment
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Umm i don't understand why you have not posted actual numbers since you must have them.
What optimal testosterone is can be subject to debate i go over pro and con of some different levels in a thread if you are interested . In a different thread i explain how and why our levels are lower than our ancestors and "normal" is actually distorted and worthless . Other authors onsite have also commented at times and indeed there is an article onsite on optimal test range .
Or you can have the simple version if your test is below 500(some say higher) it is likely to cause issues . As "normal" stretches below 300 it is frequent that guys with "normal" test have issues.Comment
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They are on my doctor's website which has been down. I understand that low T can cause ED, but i doubt there is a connection with low T and a a venous leak, which is a physical, not chemical issue.Originally posted by Pegasus View PostComment
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What parameters are best?
One thing that is still left to be determined is which parameters are best. What should the strength of the shocks be? How many should be given per treatment? What areas should be treated? How often should the treatements be given? Who benefits most?
1-Here is a study that shows that giving two treatments a week instead of just one results in better gains:
http://medcraveonline.com/UNOAJ/UNOAJ-04-00136.pdf
2-In this study they looked at the results from a number of studies:
https://www.europeanurology.com/article/S0302-2838(16)30259-7/pdf
They found:
- It worked for mild cases of ED not moderate or severe
- More pulses per treatment gives better results
- It is unclear if stonger shocks worked better or not
- Improvement was seen after a month and lasted for at least three
- Fewer than 6 sessions is better than more than six
3-This study found that once a week treatments for 4 weeks worked in people with mild to severe ED
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4756974/
4-This study found results after one month that lasted two years:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3607492/
It helped both mild and moderate cases of ED.
5-In this study the effect of the treatment decreased after the first month:
https://www.hindawi.com/journals/au/2017/1843687/
It involved 5 treatments, once a week. Only 43% got better erections.
6-In this study people got once a week treatments for 12 weeks:
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They found:
- 67% success rate
- It worked better with mild cases of ED
- It lasted at least 3 months
I guess the take away is that even with different protocols it gives generally positive results.
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A lack of testosterone can have a very real physical effect on all sorts of tissues.Originally posted by dicklimppen View Post
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Thanks, that was what I was looking for. Medical evidence. I finally got access to my test. My free testosterone is 93.7.Originally posted by Big Al View PostComment
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SHOCKWAVE THERAPY AND SEVERE ED
A number of studies I've read say that shockwave therapy works best on patients with mild to moderate ED, but not for severe cases. Others get results for severe ED. So, what is severe ED? According to some definitions it is ED that can't be treated with Viagra and its cousins. According to that definition I have severe ED. Other definitions have to do with the score you get on the IIEF. You can find that test here:
https://www.baus.org.uk/_userfiles/pages/files/Patients/Leaflets/iief.pdf
Questions 1-5 and 15 deal with erectile function. If you score at 8 or below you are considered to have severe ED. I score 6.
Here's an unanswered question. The majority of studies involve about 6 treatments, which seems low to me, but if you consider the fact that doctors are charging about $500 per treatment it makes sense that people aren't going to afford to shell out megabucks to do lots of treatments. The researchers, in the same way, can't afford to do long term studies. It costs too much, takes too much time, and they lose a lot of their patients the longer the study goes one. So, maybe the reason some studies don't find good results is that people with severe ED need more treatments, and that hasn't even been tested yet.
The idea behind shockwave therapy is that it stimulates vein growth. Is in not logical that people with mild ED need to have less vein regeneration, so they benefit from fewer treatments? Cases of severe ED are going to require more regeneration, hence more treatments. The medical studies just don't address this. Given my situation I don't expect results for a few months.Comment
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It doesn't give the units, but says normal is 37-147. I didn't have prolactin or SHBG tested.Originally posted by Big Al View PostComment
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