The Official Hard Flaccid Recovery Thread

[Mr.Friend Senior MemberPE Gym Editor Find all posts View Profile Close Mr.Friend]

Well I'm in my manic state and almost sprinted a whole mile so my brain just released a shit ton of endorphins. So we'll see how long this positive me lasts.

you have to chill out man, as hard as that sounds. don't become self destructive, for that will cause alot of bad things and set you in the opposite direction of healing. I wouldn't worry too much. My guess is you damaged your nerves permanently, but not enough to make a significant significatn, DIFFICULTy in sex. Hell, maybe use it as a blessing. A way to last longer, because your orgasms can still be extremely good, just need to build them up. I'm seeing a pelvic floor therapist pretty soon though, but I have not chosen one, because I don't know who would be good. I live in the new jersey area. I feel I have a pelvic floor issue AND possibly tissue damage or scar tissue in my penis, because the penis itself, the back of it, when flaccid, will be tender to the touch (or more accurtaely, to small pressure put to it, or helicopters.)

[Newbert_zero Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Newbert_zero]

you have to chill out man, as hard as that sounds. don't become self destructive, for that will cause alot of bad things and set you in the opposite direction of healing. I wouldn't worry too much. My guess is you damaged your nerves permanently, but not enough to make a significant significatn, DIFFICULTy in sex. Hell, maybe use it as a blessing. A way to last longer, because your orgasms can still be extremely good, just need to build them up. I'm seeing a pelvic floor therapist pretty soon though, but I have not chosen one, because I don't know who would be good. I live in the new jersey area. I feel I have a pelvic floor issue AND possibly tissue damage or scar tissue in my penis, because the penis itself, the back of it, when flaccid, will be tender to the touch (or more accurtaely, to small pressure put to it, or helicopters.)

I thought ginko can heal minor nerve damage though? Btw I think my hard flaccid problem is pretty much gone completely exept for when I exercise alot or right after ejaculating. Is it normal for the penis to be stiffened and have that hourglass shape to it after ejaculating? I'm at the point where I can ejaculate and it will return to a completely lose flaccid after about 20 minutes where it relaxes enough to actually rest against my ball sack like it's supposed to. My dick has been messed up for so long I forgot how a normal dick even functions. Im Trying to figure out when it's safe to start jelging and stretching again. I'm to scared that my dick will just go straight back into hard flaccid. Btw what do you mean self destructive? I'm not self destructive and don't remember saying anything that implied that.

[moxsum Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close moxsum]

Hey guys.. got a little update.

So I tried something. I bought some Castor Oil.. which is renowned for its healing properties.. one of which being the ability to soothe and soften tissue. I rubbed a generous amount onto the shaft of my penis a few mornings in a row, let it soak in for 20 minutes, then washed it off..

Ive definitely noticed a softening of the penis both in flaccid and while erect.. at first it sort of freaked me out.. cuz im so used to the super stiff shaft etc.. It absolutely had an effect..

I suggest you guys experiment with it and tell me how it goes. Try what I did, in the morning, before you shower, rub some into your shaft but not onto your glans or testicles. Let it soak in for 20-30 minutes, then get in the shower and wash off.. Do this every morning for a week, and come back and report. You can order castor oil here: Amazon.com: Castor Oil Liquid 32 Ounces: Beauty that is the one I used.

[magnusb Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close magnusb]

i went to the dr, he told me all my issues with erections and urine and bowel movements are due to anxiety.
i do suffer from immense hyprocodiac anxiety ( if thats how its spelt).
i aslo asked him if its normal for my pc muslce and pelvic muslces to be quite hard, he said that was normal as well.
he says that if i can get erections at night when iam asleep but not in the day its mental.
he also said the consistancy of the hardness of your flaccid penis changes all the time which is also normal....
just letting you guys know what he said i somewhat agree with him and somewhat dont.

[fatalbazuka Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close fatalbazuka]

Sounds interesting with the castor oil. I will try that out.

[Mr.Friend Senior MemberPE Gym Editor Find all posts View Profile Close Mr.Friend]

i went to the dr, he told me all my issues with erections and urine and bowel movements are due to anxiety.
i do suffer from immense hyprocodiac anxiety ( if thats how its spelt).
i aslo asked him if its normal for my pc muslce and pelvic muslces to be quite hard, he said that was normal as well.
he says that if i can get erections at night when iam asleep but not in the day its mental.
he also said the consistancy of the hardness of your flaccid penis changes all the time which is also normal....
just letting you guys know what he said i somewhat agree with him and somewhat dont.

alot of that is bullshit. He doesnt realize the degree to which we are experiencing this. If HE had thses problems, he would take his own false diagnosis, and shove it up his own ass....

[biff7686 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close biff7686]

alot of that is bullshit. He doesnt realize the degree to which we are experiencing this. If HE had thses problems, he would take his own false diagnosis, and shove it up his own ass....

I agree. I'm not denying that anxiety could play some role in this, but I would say there is definitely a physical cause for these issues. Most people in this thread did not just wake up one day with a firm flaccid. There was usually an injury that caused these issues to arise. Essentially what this doctor is saying would be the equivalent of if you broke your arm and then saying the break was caused by anxiety and not a physical factor.

[magnusb Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close magnusb]

i think it all has to do with pelvic floor personally, as much as i dont want to, i may begin the internal massage.....arg..

[Mr.Friend Senior MemberPE Gym Editor Find all posts View Profile Close Mr.Friend]

hmm. One thing Ive been thinking, is that, lets say that we pe'd with the way our flaccids are.One of the symptoms we have is that they return to normal softness, but are smaller in size, as if you are viewing your penis from further away. Say that you jelqed eith that. If I am not mistaken, even if a blood bulge moved through the penis and you got a great jelq session in with great technique and all, wouldnt those jelqs be considered useless as the penis can clearly expand to an already larger flaccd (given this symptom was absent and everything was back to normal)? Think about it, we would be jelqing the penis to a size that it would already take if all these symptoms were absent. You know what I mean guys?

[moxsum Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close moxsum]

I dont think we should discount anxieties role in this. I am not saying it is the cause. BUT it absolutely will make it worse. Anxiety can cause almost any problem with your body believe it or not. It can cause stomach problems, sweating, vomiting, diahrea, breathing problems, head aches, stiff muscles, etc..

I believe the problem is that the smooth muscle in the penis is contracting inappropriately. Probably from being injured or strained, the nervous system is basically scared, and trying to protect itself. Thats why relaxing, taking a break from messing with your dick, reducing anxiety, etc. will help. I think sometimes when rough play brings back the firm flaccid, its simply because, the body gets scared again and contracts in an over-exxagerated manner.

Heres a quote:
"Smooth muscle tension due to unconscious anxiety causes acute or chronic spasm of blood vessels, GI tract, airways, and the bladder. Patients exhibiting smooth muscle tension may present with GI symptoms, migraine, hypertension, urinary frequency, and upper airway constriction mimicking asthma. They often report histories of depression, panic, substance abuse, personality disorders, and past sexual or physical abuse."

Your emotional state effects smooth muscles. Believe it or not. It effects your entire physiology in every way.

You must try and relax and stay positive. I guess each of our cases are different, but ive had the really bad firm flaccid, like 2 inch flaccid and ROCK hard and numb feeling.. ive had that 3 times now, the first time it lasted for 3 weeks, the second time for a few days, and this last time only really bad for a day or two.. Each time ive learned to relax more and not freak out and each time it gets better more quickly. I believe I still have some issue which allows it to come back more easily, then before. However, I no longer fear it very much, I know that if it does come back, it will go away again

However, the first time was the scariest, I thought it would never go away.. I was literally panicking for weeks on end, adrenaline pumping through me all day. Finally my girlfriend basically forced me to have sex with her, and it didnt feel normal the first few times, but I started to calm down, and did some meditation, buhddist stuff and went on a 1 week vacation.. came back with a very positive attitude, and low and behold my dick started working much more normally, my erections came back full force.. etc. now every now and then if i was super stressed it would come back, but then go away again etc.

I believe some of you guys are in that state I was initially. You have to chill out. Ive been there before, believe me, I know, its very scary and tiring and frustrating, feels like your whole worlds turned upside down and like theres no point to life anymore. Relax. It will get better. It is NOT PERMANENT. It is a temporary muscular contraction, its over-exxagerated response from the body/nervous system.

The body can heal itself from almost anything given the time and right nutrients/mental state. Even if you've been like that for months or even years I know that it can get better. Also, your not alone, there are literally hundreds of posts form different guys all over the internet with the exact same problem, so your not unique and your case is not unheard of. There are lots of other guys going through the same thing.

Try taking magnesium, going for walks in the fresh air (or hikes), take care of your general health (eating, sleeping, drinking), make sure you get lots of good quality sleep, listen to some relaxing audiobooks on meditation etc (try eckhart tolle), buy some cold pressed castor oil (Amazon.com: Castor Oil Liquid 32 Ounces: Beauty) and rub it into your shaft in the morning - leave it on for 20 minutes then shower it off, occasionally induce erection with visual stimulation if need be, stop PEing and masturbating with a strong grip. Go treat yourself and get a massage every week. Take some warm baths/jacuzzis every now and then.. maybe do some yoga/meditation/deep/slow breathing.

Also, I would recommend continuing to have sex (not crazily though) if you have a girlfriend/wife. It seemed to help me honestly.. Keep a positive mental attitude and you will heal faster. No matter the cause, worry, anxiety, stress will just prolong your healing process.

[fatalbazuka Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close fatalbazuka]

Yeah I'm pretty hopeful it can be cured. It has to be a muscular contraction coz I can be lying in bed focusing on relaxing it and it will return to normal, then it can
Just go straight back to a frimer state without me even moving. I had no problems getting it up last night with a girl although I had taken cialis Just in case, cialis basically makes the smooth muscles relax whenever there is stimulation, so we just gotta keep trying different methods to relax it.

If I go for a walk, get out and about and take my mind completely off it - it basically dissapears.
However if I sit at home all day sitting down ( this puts stress on pelvic muscles ) on the pc reading and thinking about 'firm flaccid' it gets worse - I'd have to say it's 50-50 physical & psychological.

Our heads a Vicious cycle of anxiety WHICH results in a constant contraction of pelvic & pc muscles due to a past trauma.
Some girls who had bad 'experiences' whilst very young , maintained complete tightness meaning they could never have sex because it was constantly contracted as a defence mechanism. I forgot what the condition was called, and it may be similar to what we have.

[Newbert_zero Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Newbert_zero]

Fatal bazooka I haven't heard an update from you in a while how are things going for you? Are you still abstaining? How long has it been? What else besides abstaining have you tried? I think your the one who has abstained the longest so far so I think everyone is patiently waiting to hear if you are recovering. It would be alot easier to motivate myself to abstain if it actually helped you.

[fatalbazuka Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close fatalbazuka]

Well i haven't been trying to get erections, but the ones i do have are better. Although i had more stronger erections during the first 2-3 weeks.
In terms of firm flaccid, it's easier for me to relax the area down there which means i'm getting it less often - whenever i'd masturbate it would go completely firm after and be impossible for me to relax, which was worrying. Atleast now i can relax it whenever i like, although it takes thought & peace to do it - i just need to be able to relax it subconsciously and it will help so much more !

My sexual performance with a girl last night was better than it's ever been, AND i was standing up with a strong erection - something which has never happened.

I feel for those with this condition, porn is definitely a no-go as it raises standards and makes it harder to get aroused. Masturbation can be ok, but it really depends on how it effects you, it definitely killed my sex drive, gave me weaker erections, a more tensed pelvic region & precum.

Dude just give it a try, you have absolutely nothing to lose. I used to think that if i stopped masturbating then it could be detrimental, but when i do get erections now they are much stronger and my unit is generally more relaxed.

I have ordered the castor oil, and will apply it (lightly) to the pelvic area and penis. In theory, if we have muscular problems then this should help significantly as it's been proven to relax tension, and even induce labour in women. Also it's said to help inflammation, so if we have any of that then it should help.

http://www.earthclinic.com/Remedies/castor_oil.html
"A castor oil pack is placed on the skin to increase circulation and to promote elimination and healing of the tissues and organs underneath the skin. It is used to stimulate the liver, relieve pain, increase lymphatic circulation, reduce inflammation, and improve digestion."

One thing is for sure; Rest, Supplements such as L-arginine & cialis, less porn/masturbation, sitting down and concentrating on relaxing the unit, walking & general activity. Are all things which help us, and we should be glad we atleast have these. And hopefully, Castor oil will help too.
We will eventually find a better (cure) but until then we must not give up, and continue trying new things !

[moxsum Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close moxsum]

Dunno about cialis.. I really believe that viagra may have caused my firm flaccid or contributed to it.. And I saw another guy onling who developed firm flaccid after a few days of sex on viagra. Be careful guys..

I think in general those drugs are bad for you.. They artificially force your body to keep your dick hard, its not normal. It stops a normal physiological process and could contribute to this problem by confusing your bodys natural intelligence, knowing when to relax/contract the penis.. what happens if you trick your body into keeping it hard much longer then normal?

Plus, ive had this problem for a while and I dont need cialis/viagra.. if your mind is calm and your in a good state mentally things should work pretty well.

[fatalbazuka Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close fatalbazuka]

Did you notice an immediate difference after a few days of castor oil massages ? and if so, what were they