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  • I completely agree with what everyone just said. I do believe the black community commits a higher proportion of violent crimes. I do believe more police are sent those areas. I also agree that BLM needs to shift its focus from the police to look at their own communities.

    I really the believe the root of the problem stems from black culture, not skin color. Too many single mothers making minimum wage raising children withouy fathers in their lives. The kids of no hope, no goals, no ambition. So they live the street life leading to drugs and crime. The solution must come from within.

    But having said that, I can also say with certainty that black men are treated differently overall then white men. There is probably a reason for that. Police probably feel more threatened by black men based on experience. I get it.

    But I also believe the lack of training and the overall view of blacks need to change along side the black community. This is a complex problem. And I've seen enough videos of police using unnecessary force on mostly black men, so there is a problem. Cops are much quicker to draw and use a weapon when confronting a black man. And maybe that is justified. But watching cops shooting unarmed men in the back when they are running away is absolutely ridiculous. Or cops unloading on a teenager with a knife that is 100 feet away is ridiculous.

    Change needs to come from everywhere. I'm not the type to complain about this or that, I like to find solutions. How do we fix the problem. And if you discount that millions of blacks feel mistreated is being part of the problem, not the solution. Its the same mindset Conservatives had in the 60s looking at the black protests. Its the same mindset as the Southerners had 100 years earlier during the Civil War.

    The black communities and culture has their own issues they need to address. Maybe BLM is not the best method, but without a leader to step up and say, yes ther is a problem with police, but that problem us made worse by the behavior of our young black men in our own communities. And for some reason, nobody is the black community is willing to step up.
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    • Has anyone ever seen a video of a cop shooting a white guy?
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      • no doubt policing in the US has changed for the worse over the last 20-30 years. Blame the "war" on drugs. Blame the physiological tests for becoming an officer. Blame the flood of combat veterans into the police force. Many factors but not just blacks suffer from this. I personally have watched quit a few white men and women be abused by police first hand. About a year ago I watched them club a 25 year old white kid out side a bar so bad the kids face never healed right. I've seen them pepper spray people already in cuffs, ect ect

        Any one below a certain income level line deals with it equally. Whites, Hispanics and Asian communities just tend to not champion the law breakers among them.

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        • Originally posted by CUSP82 View Post
          Has anyone ever seen a video of a cop shooting a white guy?

          Yes.
          Why you dont think it happens?


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          have a look here
          Cop shoots suspect escaping crash - CNN Video
          no charges for this cop. read all about this incident it will make you sick.

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          • No I have just never seen one.
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            • Originally posted by CUSP82 View Post
              No I have just never seen one.
              They don't show or mention police-on-white violence (or black on black for that matter) because it goes against the agenda of those in power, as well as the media.
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              • Originally posted by CUSP82 View Post
                No I have just never seen one.
                watch that vid i posted. Look up the details of the whole thing. Its crazy and very sad.

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                • For me its very simple. In the area of South FL where I live, you walk a couple of blocks west and its all black with HUGE crime activity every single day. There are homicides, violent crimes, the police shopper is flying over every day trying to find some dangerous criminal, etc. Theres poverty, everything is trashy. But you come a couple of blocks east and its a tropical paradise. I leave my apt open, my car, etc. Granted we all carry so they don't cross the border. But the issue is: What makes these people live that way? They have exactly the same opportunities of every other American. Somebody might argue that they were born to a poor family without education and values. Ok, but in that case lets put the example of all those poor immigrants that come to this country, work hard and succeed.

                  So these people commit crimes and violence every day in their neighborhoods, of course creating more police activity. Eventually things go south and one of them die here and there. And people is going to claim fucking racism????? give me a fucking break!! these people don't deserve any kind of social benefit. All those police officers having to attend to their same shit every single fucking day are heroes!!! That race card has been used before over and over and over. If you ask one of these reverends, he will tell you that they're poor and criminals because of white oppression and segregation. It is unbelievable.

                  Opportunities are equal to everybody, and the law has to be equal to everybody. I encourage every single police officer to have ZERO tolerance with crimes. Do not take second chances. Unconditional compliance.

                  True, not 100% of police are honest and good. For that, I hope body cams are used by all police departments. So far the body cams, who were proposed by these groups with witch stories, have been extremely beneficial for police, not for the alleged victims. So far these cams have debunked alleged violence, and proved the violent behavior of plenty of criminals. So I hope ALL police can wear cams soon and strictly apply the weight of the law to everybody equally.

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                  • Originally posted by CUSP82 View Post
                    Has anyone ever seen a video of a cop shooting a white guy?
                    Yep.... just a couple weeks ago. I can't remember the state, think it was Texas or Oklahoma. Kid with a pick-up truck got pulled over and before the cop approached the truck the kid started yelling and flipping the cop off. The officer called for back up and when they got there the officers told him to get out of his truck and he didn't comply. It looked as if he had a weapon and was shouting obscenities with threats, and they shot him dead!
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                    • Originally posted by Jackxxx View Post
                      For me its very simple. In the area of South FL where I live, you walk a couple of blocks west and its all black with HUGE crime activity every single day. There are homicides, violent crimes, the police shopper is flying over every day trying to find some dangerous criminal, etc. Theres poverty, everything is trashy. But you come a couple of blocks east and its a tropical paradise. I leave my apt open, my car, etc. Granted we all carry so they don't cross the border. But the issue is: What makes these people live that way? They have exactly the same opportunities of every other American. Somebody might argue that they were born to a poor family without education and values. Ok, but in that case lets put the example of all those poor immigrants that come to this country, work hard and succeed.

                      So these people commit crimes and violence every day in their neighborhoods, of course creating more police activity. Eventually things go south and one of them die here and there. And people is going to claim fucking racism????? give me a fucking break!! these people don't deserve any kind of social benefit. All those police officers having to attend to their same shit every single fucking day are heroes!!! That race card has been used before over and over and over. If you ask one of these reverends, he will tell you that they're poor and criminals because of white oppression and segregation. It is unbelievable.

                      Opportunities are equal to everybody, and the law has to be equal to everybody. I encourage every single police officer to have ZERO tolerance with crimes. Do not take second chances. Unconditional compliance.

                      True, not 100% of police are honest and good. For that, I hope body cams are used by all police departments. So far the body cams, who were proposed by these groups with witch stories, have been extremely beneficial for police, not for the alleged victims. So far these cams have debunked alleged violence, and proved the violent behavior of plenty of criminals. So I hope ALL police can wear cams soon and strictly apply the weight of the law to everybody equally.
                      Body cams are great, but don't capture everything. They miss a lot on a peripheral level.... and the aren't always positioned to give you everything the human eye sees directly in front of you.
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                      • Well, mistakes are made by both sides, we are human, we are all Americans. Obama said we are, what happened to Hope and Change, where is the President?

                        talking to the Mrs today after another Police killing today, don't know the circumstances. Killing White cops mite become the next copy cat crime of choice. If so, will become a very dark road to follow. Hard to believe that the greatest fear in this country won't be ISIS anymore. Since 1865 and 1960's we've come so far. I've got this feeling of despair that we will fall into anarchy. We all have to step back and take a deep breath, forgive each other. Please.
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                        • Trigger happy f'ing fruitcakes!

                          I'll leave it to everyone else to figure out who I'm referring to!
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                            • In response to Jackxxx about everyone having equal opportunity. In a sense thay is true. But when kids grow up without fathers, without disciple, without money, without education, without hope, it makes it much harder to succeed. You can't raise children like that then all of a sudden they become amazing adults. Not saying it can't happen, but these are obvious indicators of success. Im not saying anybody is forcing this, but it becomes a revolving cycle. Kids raised without fathers at much more likely to get on drugs or go to prison. Add on top of that poor children with no fathers. Add on that poor kids raised with no discipline and odds of becoming a criminal go up drastically.

                              That is why my belief is that change needs to happen everywhere. If cops suddenly became Saints, that wouldn't change the black community much. But if blacks make a change but are still treated the same, that won't work either.

                              But you can't say people that grow up in these communities have the same opportunity as everyone else. Not comparing to terrorists at all, but its like ISIS. Its a culture. Blowing it up, beating on it, and calling it names will not fix the problem. Its like kicking a hornets nest. We have to implement changes that help change the culture.
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                              • Yep...and John Lennon got shot too.

                                Ironic ain't it!

                                I'm old enough to remember where I was and what I was doing when the news broke...just like my Irish mother did with JFK.
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