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I think veganism not neccesarily is something which comes only from scientific or nutritional reflections. It comes rather from thougts on the functionality of consciousness and how food effects it.
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The mind certainly is a powerful thing. I have a brother who is a vegan. I don't know if it was one of those Seitan steaks or something else that he let me try but it was actually quite tasty and meat like.Originally posted by somebodyelse View PostLast edited by Cavalier; 05-13-2018, 07:07 AM.To totally satisfy a woman sexually is not about having a large penis, it's about being a good lover.Comment
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I certainly agree that many of the cattle & chicken ranches don't always treat the animals humanely. Killing an animal is not something I enjoy doing. I'm not a hunter, or much of a fisherman. I grew up out in the desert of southern California where coyotes were thick and if you had small dogs or cats as pets they would be vulnerable to attack. So I learned at a very young age how to handle a .22 rifle and on a few occasions shot at coyotes and only once killed one. I don't enjoy killing animals.
I think about the thousands of years man has occupied the earth, and what he had to do in order to survive. I have teeth in my mouth that are called "canine" and are designed by God for ripping and tearing meat. I know that a certain amount of protein in our diets is necessary to maintain muscle, tendon and ligament. That protein from vegetable sources is the lowest grade / quality of protein on the PER (protein efficiency ratio) that you can eat.
I know several other people who are vegans that do so for health and personal or moral reasons.
The people who do it for health reasons have digestive disorders, but when I've talked the them about how to overcome digestive disorders I find out that they never supplement with quality probiotics, digestive enzymes or Omega 3,6,9 - all of which in most cases will cure digestive disorders.
The ones who are morally opposed to killing animals to eat for some reason find it perfectly acceptable that 1.5 million babies in the United States are aborted each and every year. Which I find very hypocritical because in my not so humble opinion a human life carries far more value than that of an animal.-Foldus,
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I am a carnivore plan and simple. I cringe when I see people eat ground meat raw.Originally posted by TheGreatDivider View Post
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Excellent post Marlon!
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I can appreciate and respect the moral values of a vegan but for those who believe abortion is acceptable have lost all credibility with me.Originally posted by Marlon LGHanger View PostLast edited by Cavalier; 05-13-2018, 01:30 PM.To totally satisfy a woman sexually is not about having a large penis, it's about being a good lover.Comment
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It's mainly doctors and nutritionists still pushing for a low fat diet because the research hasn't found an explanation for issues like diabetes, heart attacks, or strokes. I don't agree with it, and I have to parrot a lot of the low fat diet advice in my classes but I think the low fat diet is a bit too extreme.Originally posted by BigBadButters View Post
If you ask me, I think we should be eating more fat and less protein, starches, and sugars. Not a ketogenic diet by any means, more of a sensible vegetarian diet rich in vegetables and greens, supplemented with a moderate amount of fat and cholesterol, and just a small amount of sugars, fruits, and refned starches.Sex is the great leveler, taste the great divider. - Pauline KaelComment
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It groses me out too.Originally posted by BigRooster View Post
I also get the same reaction from people eating unwashed bagged greens.Sex is the great leveler, taste the great divider. - Pauline KaelComment
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...they are on the whole nutritionally ignorant.Originally posted by TheGreatDivider View Post
It's not that the "low fat diet" is extreme; it's just plain wrong. It shares a history with the "eat less cholesterol" diet, which was equally based on false science (see the Framingham study, etc.)
Eating low or high in any of the macros is not advised: protein, fat, veggies. What is needed is adequate macros; but "adequate" is determined by your own genetics, lifestyle, training, etc. In other words, people probably have slightly different needs (say, more/less fat or protein etc.); and those needs may change over their lifespan.
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A few further thoughts for food on diet and consciousness.
What I've realised is, while being vegan can help to to improve consciousness - diet alone without practice does unfortunately nothing. The most important thing to understand suffering is the relationship with ones fellow man. And therefore it's necessary to cultivate compassion, forgiveness, wisdom, ... through meditation, contemplation and such.
As far as I can observe it's greatly possible to higher ones consciousness without a specific diet but I also do think a meatless diet helps.Comment
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I am at my most compassionate when I'm eating chicken wings with rum. Jus sayin!The world's still a toy if you just stay a boy!Comment
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Women were created from the rib of man to be beside him, not from his head to top him, nor from his feet to be trampled by him, but from under his arm to be protected by him, near to his heart to be loved by him.Comment
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Women were created from the rib of man to be beside him, not from his head to top him, nor from his feet to be trampled by him, but from under his arm to be protected by him, near to his heart to be loved by him.Comment
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Women were created from the rib of man to be beside him, not from his head to top him, nor from his feet to be trampled by him, but from under his arm to be protected by him, near to his heart to be loved by him.Comment
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Kind of like rain; another thing I don't like.The world's still a toy if you just stay a boy!Comment
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