Veganism all the way!

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I forgot I had created this thread all those years ago.

What I feel best for me is to go vegan for a while, slowly I start to feel weak, so I move to eating meat/fish... then after a while I feel like crap and so i move back to a vegan plan.

I probably just need to reduce my animal consumption then I would have balance or go pescetarian.

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Funny you mention the on and off vegan style. For the vegans I know they usually last a year and a half before they go back to a regular diet and then a year later back to vegan. The way I look at it if they just ate things in moderation it all comes out the same.

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Funny you mention the on and off vegan style. For the vegans I know they usually last a year and a half before they go back to a regular diet and then a year later back to vegan. The way I look at it if they just ate things in moderation it all comes out the same.

I'll never go back....
EVER

if the government completely bans meat sales and hunting, i'll just kill my self, Via hunger strike.... I will not put my self threw a 100% plant based diet again I rather die then go vegan again....

, so I move to eating meat/fish...

I probably just need to reduce my animal consumption then I would have balance or go pescetarian.

you'll regret it once you get older as you're going to destroy your health . Cerebral atrophy is a real thing (it's permanent and Irreversible Damage..) also extreme aging


FullyRawKristina’s Diet Results - YouTube





if you don't get the actual real B12 and vitamin F... (DHA and EPA ).. which are not found in plants even if someone claims it is , they have never proven these plant products work. see FDA disclaimer that is included on the bottle label....

women become sterile on the vegan diet esp the extreme ones i,e ones on a subset vegan diet i.e Frugivore,raw etc.....


did you even know the goal of veganism is to get rid of humans? most vegans claim "it's for the animals" or "environment"..





yet they still kill about 300-500 animals per acre to grow the plants x 253 million acres 75,900,000,000 to 126,500,000,000


I ask many vegans about this the only excuse they offer is they will do "something about it later"...
I always follow up when is later.. no answer after that..


also if you use a car , electricity, watch movies, watch tv shows or play video games all of which are not vegan... basically that debunks every single vegan as they use those or watch





WATER vapor is a green house gas (traps heat) it accounts for a MASSIVE amount of green house gas emissions......

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Hey Unit what does "I'll never go back" mean? You were a vegan?

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Having vegan activists and anti-vegan activists in the same post is like letting a humidifier and dehumidifier duke it out in the same room. Both think they are the only solution, when the real answer actually likely lies somewhere on the middle ground.

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Having vegan activists and anti-vegan activists in the same post is like letting a humidifier and dehumidifier duke it out in the same room. Both think they are the only solution, when the real answer actually likely lies somewhere on the middle ground.

But it is fun!

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Hey Unit what does "I'll never go back" mean? You were a vegan?

yeah for 2 weeks it made me really sick.. end less food poisoning... and gained 26 pounds of fat.. (20 pounds was in 2 weeks time)



it ruined my metabolism as well.. my weight peaked Jan 3rd(even though i stopped Nov 23rd) 26 pound heavier... i'm at 192 now so i went from


182 to 208 to now at 192. but i have gained a considerable amount of muscle mass.. so this must be taken into account..

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Having vegan activists and anti-vegan activists in the same post is like letting a humidifier and dehumidifier duke it out in the same room. Both think they are the only solution, when the real answer actually likely lies somewhere on the middle ground.

yeah but the actual proof is you don't have a horse sized cecum, a humans cecum is useless and inadequate..... also acid does not break down fibre or seeds ( you would need a acidic PH level of 0.2 to break down seeds in the gut..) a humans stomach PH level is 1.5 which is only good enough to break down flesh or meat...



also if you're making methane gas it's just plants rotting in your gut .. this is what happens with decaying plant matter...if a human was to start fermenting

you would just get Auto brewery syndrome is also known as gut fermentation syndrome....

veganism is debunked..

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yeah but the actual proof is you don't have a horse sized cecum, a humans cecum is useless and inadequate..... also acid does not break down fibre or seeds ( you would need a acidic PH level of 0.2 to break down seeds in the gut..) a humans stomach PH level is 1.5 which is only good enough to break down flesh or meat...

Herbivores have digestive acid pH in the 4.5 - 7 range, cows in the higher end. It's not the low pH of the HCL component of gastric juice needed to break down plant matter, like vegetables - it's alpha-galactosidase - an enzyme that has a PH of 4.5 and above. Healthy humans produce alpha-galactosidase in sufficient amount to digest vegetation.

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Herbivores have digestive acid pH in the 4.5 - 7 range, cows in the higher end. It's not the low pH of the HCL component of gastric juice needed to break down plant matter, like vegetables - it's alpha-galactosidase - an enzyme that has a PH of 4.5 and above. Healthy humans produce alpha-galactosidase in sufficient amount to digest vegetation.

herbivores ferment that is why the poop is green...


they don't break it down like a acidic stomach does to flesh, as it's broken down into the amino acid components...... this is why if you eat a high meat diet you don't poop much as most of it is absorbed into the body..






when you eat a high plant diet you just take massive shits that is the whole point it's waste product from the body or REJECTED matter or undigested matter


do you do this ?

https://youtu.be/fu898NT-s04?t=29


I hope this answer your question


this is what a primate herbivore does ...

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when you eat a high plant diet you just take massive shits that is the whole point it's waste product from the body or REJECTED matter or undigested matter

Wrong again. Heavy meat eaters experience more, uh, pooping and G/I distress that people more on the vegetarian side. Eating a higher vegetarian diet results in more regular and uniform bowels. Heavy meat intake is known to cause constipation and/or diarrhea. Vegetarians are far less likely to suffer diverticular disease or colon cancer than heavy meat eaters. To quote one person who tried a meat heavy diet for an extended period. "......I trust my butthole about as much as I trust a shifty neighbour with a heavy Russian accent that asks a lot of personal questions."

For the record, I'm not a proponent of either extreme - consuming excess vegetable or meat matter. I'm just a medical researcher looking at the facts. But I have to say, your thinly based knowledge of the subject combined with your sensationalistic posts isn't helping the "eat more meat" movement (so to speak) heheh.

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Wrong again. Heavy meat eaters experience more, uh, pooping and G/I distress that people more on the vegetarian side. Eating a higher vegetarian diet results in more regular and uniform bowels. Heavy meat intake is known to cause constipation and/or diarrhea. Vegetarians are far less likely to suffer diverticular disease or colon cancer than heavy meat eaters. To quote one person who tried a meat heavy diet for an extended period. "......I trust my butthole about as much as I trust a shifty neighbour with a heavy Russian accent that asks a lot of personal questions."

For the record, I'm not a proponent of either extreme - consuming excess vegetable or meat matter. I'm just a medical researcher looking at the facts. But I have to say, your thinly based knowledge of the subject combined with your sensationalistic posts isn't helping the "eat more meat" movement (so to speak) heheh.

I too am not a vegan but sadly most people who are against Veganism have the IQ of a 4 year old or simply just don't do deep enough research. A balanced diet of 90% plants and 10% or less animal products seems to be the healthiest when referencing the majority of studies. This ratio is also found throughout human history if you study Anthropology.

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I too am not a vegan but sadly most people who are against Veganism have the IQ of a 4 year old or simply just don't do deep enough research. A balanced diet of 90% plants and 10% or less animal products seems to be the healthiest when referencing the majority of studies. This ratio is also found throughout human history if you study Anthropology.

you're referencing the Standard american diet which is 90% plants and 10% or less meat currently as of the 1980 early 1990s food pyramid ... sounds like an appeal to authority


I think you need to do some better research since EVERYONE on the western diet is dying or is chronically sick...



OBESITY

Erectile Dysfunction ...
Heart Disease
Cardiovascular Disease
diabetes
strokes
Cancer



on the 90% plants and 10% or less meat as you said your self..


why are all these people so OBESE on the 90+% plant based diet . ̶




on my meat based diet I have eliminated my OBESITY , Erectile Dysfunction and my chances of getting:


Heart Disease.
Cardiovascular Disease.
Diabetes.
Strokes.
Cancer...

i literally had arthritis in my hand(right ring finger the knuckle part)

and it's GONE the inflammation is GONE the PAIN is GONE.. what more could one ask for..


if meat is sooo bad for me as you claim why are my health problems going away and not "increasing" as you claim.... "because meat is bad for me"

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Wrong again. Heavy meat eaters experience more, uh, pooping and G/I distress that people more on the vegetarian side. Eating a higher vegetarian diet results in more regular and uniform bowels. Heavy meat intake is known to cause constipation and/or diarrhea. Vegetarians are far less likely to suffer diverticular disease or colon cancer than heavy meat eaters. To quote one person who tried a meat heavy diet for an extended period. "......I trust my butthole about as much as I trust a shifty neighbour with a heavy Russian accent that asks a lot of personal questions."

For the record, I'm not a proponent of either extreme - consuming excess vegetable or meat matter. I'm just a medical researcher looking at the facts. But I have to say, your thinly based knowledge of the subject combined with your sensationalistic posts isn't helping the "eat more meat" movement (so to speak) heheh.

Wrong


if diarrhea is considered more regular and uniform bowels. then sign me up /s


try the vegan diet you will shit your pants.... because you will have a natural disaster sized diarrhea blowout like the deepwater horizon .. literally the shit will fly out of your butthole... that is why they call it explosive diarrhea

this is why a lot of vegans mono-diet. i.e ULTRA Processed, fruitivore or HIGH starch ...


because they got tired of having diarrhea blowouts. on the high fibre diets ... they're always trying to heal their guts



let not forget these vegans are hyper aging... it's funny.....



btw vegetarian and veganism is a religious cult movement they're not for health, they want to kill off humans that is the personal agenda ... it's an anti human religious cult...


anyone who supports veg/ veganism is anti-human...


the "7th day Adventist" IS FORCING THEIR PERSONAL religion onto others they have been trying since the 1850s with the grain cereals..


they all ready infiltrated the US government and have partnerships with FEMA and the US Department of Homeland Security now. as of 2021..


to start FORCING THEIR PERSONAL veg/vegan religion onto others ..... they all ready control the USDA since 1992...aka the food pyramid

Eating a higher vegetarian diet results in more regular and uniform bowels.

I bet you believe cholesterol is bad for you and sugar is good for you . . am I correct? this is what you claim above .... since you do claim the Vegetarian diet is the best...



If you need chem supplements it's not your natural diet. this is the bottom line ... no if's or buts about it..









personally i find it hilarious that you think vegetables and fruits are healthy some fruits might be fine but very limited quality... though maybe once a week other wise you will get obese like you're getting ready to live outside in the winter time... this is why a high carb diet causes weight gain .. as people are eating too much of that shit year around and they're getting obese..




my sister has her daughter on a vegetarian diet

the BABY IS OBESE her arm in 6" around all ready at 1 year old


it's FAT... she can't even walk because she is a pile of fat... the baby's skin is not even soft like it should be... and the hair is starting to harden up.. it's clearly a lack of protein...



Neanderthals are in the news today too bad they went extinct, basically they were high carb eaters they died out from disease....LOL


is it still the best diet in the world remember they went extinct from disease..

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The idea that people who eats lots of veggies get the poops is just wrong. You're making things up in your meat only religion. You are simply a meat vegan. Doesn't bother me any but let's be factual.