Democrrats 2020

[bigbob23 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close bigbob23]

Obama started to reduce unemployment and Trump continued to reduce unemployment. Obama started to improve the economy and Trump continued to improve it.

Yup, the list goes on and on. Bush about doubled the debt, Obama about doubled the debt. Obama put kids in cages, built massive "concentration camp" facilities and filled them with immigrants. He was called the "deporter in chief". Trump continued those policies and has earned the same title.
https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/pr...ration-n703656

There are differences, but the fury is over inches in a war covering miles (or mm and km for those on metric).

The world is not going to end if the democrats win in 2020. Its not going to end if trump wins....no matter what fox news, msnbc, steven colbert, facebook or twitter tells you.

[closed251 Senior Member Member of the Month Nov 2016 Find all posts View Profile Close closed251]

"We are all just feeling what the press wants us to feel. They make us feel that way with headlines. We're just their puppets"

Never a truer word spoken for any country.

[CUSP82 Administrator Admin of the Month Dec 2014PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close CUSP82]

Okay we'll since no one seems to want to play here and I'm bored so let's take the next one; Liz Warren. Okay we all know she lied to get some jobs regardless of what she says as there is more than enough evidence out there, including her recipes ( that were stolen by the way;it's called plagerism) from her Native American ancestors that she submitted as her own for a Native American cook book.
To me that smacks of someone who will use whatever she can to get ahead although not as good as Kamela Harris because we all know how she got her jobs. ( she gave head)
I happen not to like people like that. They're power hungry and they don't mind deceiving people. Next to being arrogant deceiving people is right up there.

Oh now how does she deceive us? Well she seems to promise a lot of free stuff don't she? Okay that's cool but someone has to pay right? Funny I remember when she and Bernie wanted to tax millionaires and billionaires but something funny happened. They both found out they were millionaires so now it's tax the billionaires only and the greedy rich corporation.
I love that; tax them damn corporations. They're too rich. Now anyone with any sense of business knows that when you're costs go up you can only do 2 things. You can take less of a profit but at some point you have the raise the price of whatever you sell or whatever service you provide. So who really ends up paying the tax on the rich corporations? Well if you can't figure that one out on your own they you probably can't read either so no sense me telling you.
But here's the biggest deception of it all and she just won't answer the question. Hell even Chris Matthews asked her 3 times and he gave up because she wasn't going to answer. How are you going to get these wonderful free stuff bills through the Senate. You see you need 60 votes in the Senate to get stuff like that passed. She knows the rules all to well. Now does she think in the 2020 election that the Republicans will lose more that 13 seats to give her party that 60 vote majority? No party has ever lost that number of seats in the Senate during an election; ever!

So there's Liz promising you all that free stuff, much of which you'd end of paying for out of your pocket, full well knowing she can't deliver. Not only is that deception it's just plain wrong!

[not2big Senior Super ModeratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close not2big]

Trump’s total of untruths hit 12,019 on Aug. 5, the Washington Post Fact Checker Community reported Monday, which means he has made an average of nearly 13 untrue claims on each of the 928 days of his presidency. And plagiarizing recipes concerns you?

[CUSP82 Administrator Admin of the Month Dec 2014PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close CUSP82]

Trumps untruths; so who did they hurt? Oh so he had the biggget crowd here or the biggest tax cut there. Did they hurt anybody? How about you can keep your doctor, your plan and save 2500 bucks? Now that hurt people. How about those poor guys died in Benghazi because of a video? Big difference huh?

[CUSP82 Administrator Admin of the Month Dec 2014PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close CUSP82]

Well since no one wants to play here and I'm bored let's do Bernie.

Did you hear Bernie at the all day climate change show on CNN? He was so enlightening. In talking about climate change he alluded to the fact that there will be some pain during the transition. Now I have been around a long time and the minute any politician mentions pain I immediately hide my wallet, like that will do any good because they're going to take it anyway. The pain means the middle class gets screwed....again!
I did like the part where he agreed there were too many people on the planet so abortions should be easier to get throughout the world. Hey we have to reduce the population right? I think a good war would do just fine.

Bernie was a hippie from Brooklyn NY. Went to college, got a degree in I think sociology, couldn't get a job, went back and got a masters, still couldn't get a job so off to Vermont where it was cheaper to live.
He really never got a job in Vermont either. Oh he tried his hand at carpentry, electrical work; never made a living so he lived off women and public assistance. See on thing Bernie could do was talk. They would call him a real smoozer back in Brooklyn so that's what he did. Lived off women and the government.
Well the great city of Burlington Vermont needed a mayor and nobody really wanted the job so Bernie got it. Just in case you haven't been to Burlington you'd hardly call it a city. Oh for Vermont it's a city but that's about it and the izza there sucks.
So Bernie talked his way through being mayor, never really doing anything for the city an when a congressional seat opened up and Bernie was getting heat for not doing anything for Burlington he ran and won. Like I said he talks a good game.
In all his years in Congress, both as a representative and a Senator, well let's just say his record of accomplishment is pretty poor but there's not much choice of folks to vote for in Vermont.
Now Bernie loves to say all the free stuff and government will do this and that for you. You wanna know why? Because that's how Bernie lived his whole adult life; living off public assistance and whatever girl he could smooze and then living off the taxpayer occupying jobs he really did nothing at.
So before I would vote for a socialist I would expect him to seLL all three of his homes, move into a simple 1500 square foot home like many Americans have, and get rid of his millions and donate that money to the common good. Sorry I don't think he'll do that and American see right through him

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Trumps untruths; so who did they hurt? Oh so he had the biggget crowd here or the biggest tax cut there. Did they hurt anybody? How about you can keep your doctor, your plan and save 2500 bucks? Now that hurt people. How about those poor guys died in Benghazi because of a video? Big difference huh?

How about “Mexico will pay for the wall.” Now he wants to transfer $3.9 billion from the Military construction budget (which violates the parameters of the appropriation rules) intended to provide construction funds for children’s education facilities and daycare facilities on military basis and West Point. Now that will hurt people.

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About 20 years ago I worked in manufacturing management for a corporation based in Vermont which also had 4 other facilities worldwide. It was a union shop and when it was time to negotiate a new contract they would not budge and fought the company every step of the way because Bernie was promising he would fight for every union job in the state. The company ended up giving them what they wanted and gave me the privilege of moving all manufacturing out of Vermont to the other facilities before the union contract ran out. Bernie did nothing to help them. I worked myself right out of a job because of Bernie's promises.

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Really? You mean in a 750 billion dollar defense budget there's no fat? The Defense department couldn't find a few bucks laying around?
If you know anything about budgets then you know when you get a big sum you include all the projects you can find. Hell why not you got the money. Schools do it all the time. I would say that these aren't really priority projects but it does sound good when they say he's taking away a daycare center.
By the way the West Point thing was not a daycare center; it was to redo their parking lot for the stadium. I was just there 3 weeks ago and it didn't look all that bad but hey we got the money let's spend it.

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Okay Mexico will pay for the wall. Okay so it didn't happen. Obama was going to get us out of all foreign wars and close Gitmo. Gee that didn't happen either. How bout we spend a few billions shovel on ready jobs? Anyone ever get one?
Bottom line; things happen. What is said in a campaign may not happen once you have the job but lets keep throwing it up at your face; does the country good.

[not2big Senior Super ModeratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close not2big]

Another project deferred as a result of the transfer: a missile interceptor field in Fort Greely, Alaska, with the intended purpose of shooting down ballistic missiles launched from North Korea or other rogue states. And, two "backup" silos for the 44 missile interceptors already on alert.

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So the implication is that the officials in the Defense department are so inept and have so little money to work (750 billion) with that needed projects to protect our country are being tossed aside so that we can build a wall. So I guess no one here thinks it's important to have a border wall like most countries do.
I wonder if the people coming across the border were Russian or Chinese would it make a difference? Hell they could be for all we know because the border is so long and so open and we don't have enough manpower to cover all areas they could be walking in right now. Hell I bet the Russians could get a whole division in there without us knowing.

[Dangler Senior Administrator☼ Wizard ☼ White Tiger Award 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Dangler]

I don't care for any of Bozo Sanders socialistic communist-lke proposals.
Shame on Vermont for ever putting that fookin arsewhole into office.

[not2big Senior Super ModeratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close not2big]

Let’s increase the boarder patrol man power ( will help improve job numbers). Increase technical survelance, and improve facilities to process asylum seekers.

[not2big Senior Super ModeratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close not2big]

I happen to like some of Bernie’s ideas and how they could improve the lives of the disadvantages, but, unfortunately, they are impractical and burden the middle class. He can never win against Trump.