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  • Originally posted by Johnny D View Post
    What data are you basing that forecast on?
    Global financial failure, whole countries and continents on 'lockdown' and NO ONE in the streets of mankind's biggest cities, mass graves, the modern medical industry is swamped and doesn't know what to do, America's president getting slapped around by the reality of science; look dude this is the big one. Your life has and will change, the world has and will change.
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    • We need to remember that The 1918 “Spanish” flu occurred during a world war and its spread was enhanced by thousands of soldiers being deployed around the world after being transported in tightly packed troop ships. Accordingly, the “Spanish” flu occurred during a perfect storm.
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      • Originally posted by watersnake View Post
        Global financial failure, whole countries and continents on 'lockdown' and NO ONE in the streets of mankind's biggest cities, mass graves, the modern medical industry is swamped and doesn't know what to do, America's president getting slapped around by the reality of science; look dude this is the big one. Your life has and will change, the world has and will change.
        I think what I was wondering is what you mean by "as big". I assumed you meant that 3%-5% of the world's population will be killed by C19, as with the Spanish Flu.

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        • Originally posted by Johnny D View Post
          I think what I was wondering is what you mean by "as big". I assumed you meant that 3%-5% of the world's population will be killed by C19, as with the Spanish Flu.
          No it won;t as I have said repeatedly medical in 2020 is more advanced than in 1918 . We have also used better methods to stop it's spread, informed in part by the experience with 1918 when as Not2big says there was a perfect storm and it spread widely . We do not want a large part of the world population catching this or we will have millions of deaths . So far there has been some success but I fear it's spread in the 3rd world where the medical is not as available as methods to restrict spread are less applied .

          There is also the matter of the death rate which is not that well established for covid especially . What happens to the death rate when this thing hits the 3rd world ?

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          • Originally posted by madyogi View Post
            This is all true from where I sit. Plus -- (more infections -> increasing likelihood of medical resource overrun -> increase in CFR). We are social distancing and wearing masks and such to decrease total infections, which will hopefully lead to a lower CFR, but it's hard to imagine it being less than 1% on the whole.
            I don't think that's hard to imagine at all when we're actually seeing those numbers coming out of places with enough meaningful data

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            • Originally posted by madyogi View Post
              I will push back against the notion that "we're all acting as though everyone is radioactive".
              I just watched a guy walk out into the street to avoid passing another pedestrian on the sidewalk. I'm out driving around today and I see numerous people walking outside ALONE, even riding bikes ALONE, wearing face masks. It's an hysteria - people are equating the situation to some kind of post-nuclear cinema or something!

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              • Originally posted by Johnny D View Post
                I don't think that's hard to imagine at all when we're actually seeing those numbers coming out of places with enough meaningful data
                The cruise ships are more like 2% fatality where are these places with recovered patients at over 99% ?

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                • Originally posted by Johnny D View Post
                  I just watched a guy walk out into the street to avoid passing another pedestrian on the sidewalk. I'm out driving around today and I see numerous people walking outside ALONE, even riding bikes ALONE, wearing face masks. It's an hysteria - people are equating the situation to some kind of post-nuclear cinema or something!
                  Umm I walked around and rode a bike around alone before covid it;s not that strange . It's not that difficult to do either and it's a reasonable thing to do in the circumstance .
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                  • Originally posted by Johnny D View Post
                    I think what I was wondering is what you mean by "as big". I assumed you meant that 3%-5% of the world's population will be killed by C19, as with the Spanish Flu.
                    Can i ask where the 3 to 5 % came from ?
                    The figures on 1918 are very disputed and I doubt we will ever get a truly accurate figure . There is no doubt that millions died and it is legit to talk in terms of a % of world population which was circa 1.5 billion at the time . I have heard figures like 50 million dead with spanish flu which would put it over the 3% but not the higher figure . Some of course put the number lower and the fatality as less .

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                    • Originally posted by Johnny D View Post
                      I just watched a guy walk out into the street to avoid passing another pedestrian on the sidewalk. I'm out driving around today and I see numerous people walking outside ALONE, even riding bikes ALONE, wearing face masks. It's an hysteria - people are equating the situation to some kind of post-nuclear cinema or something!
                      It is crazy when ya go to walmart and majority of people are wearing masks, avoiding everyone lol like the damn plague.
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                      • My sister-in-law is 65 and is currently confined to an electric wheel chair in a long-term care facility due to 45 years of progressive MS. She is not now allowed to go outside and no visitors are allowed in. Her only contact with the outside world is by means of a Bluetooth enabled cell phone and limited use of a lap top computer because of lack of mobility.

                        She was very social and had an extensive following of friends who visited her regularly several times a week. Thankfully, she has not contracted Covid-19; however, her life has been significantly affected by it.
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                        • I wear my mask when in Walmart. I choose to lower my risk.
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                          • It is the individual stories that the media can convey to us that touch my sense of the human toll of this virus--watching a woman trying to connect with her aged dimentia stricken mother through the window of a senior facility. The woman is gesturing a big hug and her mother keeps reponding by gesturing to her to open the window so that she can reach out to her.

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                            • I have been holed up since the beginning of March when I heard that the virus had reached my county. I plan to stay home until June, maybe longer, this to keep me and members of my family at risk, safe.

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                              • Originally posted by Pegasus View Post
                                Can i ask where the 3 to 5 % came from ?
                                The figures on 1918 are very disputed and I doubt we will ever get a truly accurate figure . There is no doubt that millions died and it is legit to talk in terms of a % of world population which was circa 1.5 billion at the time . I have heard figures like 50 million dead with spanish flu which would put it over the 3% but not the higher figure . Some of course put the number lower and the fatality as less .
                                I found it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_flu
                                I'm simply asking him what he means when he says that this will be "as big".

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