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its not mediocrity when the majority of women like, want, desire and prefer average sized penis. and you can choose to keep using negative connotations and words to label average or you can rise to the challenge and try find one that has a more positive mind fuck for all who are average in size. No one says you can't aim higher than average for size but stop putting down your cock when its already a great size and the men who are aiming to be in the average size range.Last edited by TTBB; 09-21-2012, 01:43 AM.
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I know its the concept and i am challenge the men here to find a word that doesn't trigger the ego fall out or the fear or what average on an emotional bases means. Men here seem to have more issue with being Average in size than small because of what average means in general application to your life.(small and big don't mean anything unless applied to measurement where as average has multiple uses)Originally posted by rollingthunder View PostI guess I should have left this thread alone. My mind clearly cannot grasp the purpose of this exorcise. It's not the word average that men have a problem with. It's the very concept.
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Oh my goodness people, just what exactly do you think this will accomplish? Nothing. It will not change a thing. I'll even go as far as saying that some of you are just deluding yourselves.
Let me tell you this. Average, is just a WORD. An idea. It is not you, it doesn't represent you and it doesn't reflect your real self. Not. One. Bit.
Just like the word "water" is just a notion, a noise that represents a certain liquid without being it. Water does not make a sound "water" when you splash it or when it flows. It is just an idea. The word "water" does not represent the actual liquid. The word has no physical reality.
Just like that, "average" is simply a symbol of yourself, but it is not the same as your living organism. A social construct with no physical reality.
Do you understand now? Even if you do come up with a different word, likeit will be just sugar coating it, deviating people from the actual misconception.Originally posted by ColtAR-15 View Post"Moderately endowed"
Only for a bit. And the cycle will repeat itself. There are only so many words in a language yet many more insecurities.Originally posted by ColtAR-15 View PostThat sounds positive.
Originally posted by ColtAR-15 View PostUnfortunately its just human nature for men and women to want the bigger better thing and yes I think this applies to the penis also.
No it isn't and no it does not. 
It's only recent compared to the total human history that people began to be dissatisfied with what they have, and that's because they began to forget how to live in the present. To be unable to enjoy what you have and appreciate your abilities see things just as they are has lead to the idea that "I must have more, something better than other people so I can finally feel good about myself". People are more attached to the results of their actions, their desires rather than their present lives.
In short: Take a step back, people. Take deep and slow breaths. You're taking life too seriously. Relax. Now do you see how tangled up you were getting? Just live. It shouldn't be so hard!
Now let's say every guy was well endowed. Then what? Problems will still exist. It'll get boring. Dildo companies will go out of business. Tighter girls will be in pain. You will no longer have average men to compare yourself with and feel better about yourself.
Like I said earlier, it will not change a thing.Future owner of a glorious cock.
I'll call it, the thunder dragon.
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I am pretty sure I haven't put down my cock, put down myself though, but tried to discuss how each person could feel about the word average and that trying to come up with a better word for average isn't all that necessary.Originally posted by TINKERBELL View Postits not mediocrity when the majority of women like, want, desire and prefer average sized penis. and you can choose to keep using negative connotations and words to label average or you can rise to the challenge and try find one that has a more positive mind fuck for all who are average in size. No one says you can't aim higher than average for size but stop putting down your cock when its already a great size and the men who are aiming to be in the average size range.
If a word makes average sound better than average, then it isn't average anymore it is then better than average and coming up with something that would be synonymous with average would still mean average, basically.
Or I shall come up with a word. Why don't we just use what Magic: the Gathering does for it's rarities. Common, uncommon, rare, and mythic rare. Every average penis can be uncommon.
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Hmm yes I am guilty I suppose, I would find being called average insulting ; but then my dick is 8 by 6 so it isn't average . When I was 6'75 by 4.75 if some called it average I had no issue with it.Originally posted by TINKERBELL View PostThe word average seems to insult and be taken as a negative by men.
So what is another word that we could re-brand the mid range penis? a word that doesn't offend male ego? a word that can be used proudly..
It always amazes me how many take the word average in a negative way when its being used as a positive.
any ideas?
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I don't have the biggest cock, or the smallest. I suppose it's kind of average.
Do you know why Im happy with it?
Because I have made women happy with it, I know how to, and that makes me happy. And It feels good to me too. Despite not having a huge penis, I've been told it's "not small", "perfect", "beautiful".. and so on. And all of that makes me happy.
I guess if every time I got it out, every woman had said "oh my god it's so small, go home" then maybe I'd feel differently. But that doesn't actually happen in real life. Not like that anyway.
My friend told me a story this morning about how he had had a foursome with another lad. That lad had a big dick. And the girls refused the big cock, and called over to my friend to fuck them because the other was too big.
Think abiout that for a moment.
We spend so much time banging on and on here about size, and honestly it devalues this site. I know that a lot of this site is devoted to making it bigger, and that, in a world where we're brought up to believe that that's impossible is a great thing. To know that it's possible. That's great. Providing support and guidance to do so. That's great.
But this site offers us men SO much more.
So for fuck's sake, lt's please not give anyone with a complex about it reason to believe they should hold onto that. Or reason to believe it matters. At the end of the day guys, if you're single, or a virgin, and you want to get laid? Having a bigger penis will not make the blindest bit of difference. But Not actually being wrapped up in it? That will probably help quite a lot. Those of you in relationships.. well, if your woman is going to leave you because it's not big enough? Dump the bitch. She's not interestsd in you. If you want to get bigger, for ego, and possibly for her benefit (ask her first, yeah?) .. then go for it. it's up to you.
But please don't promote or give any credence to any notion that it's actually important.Last edited by spanky; 09-21-2012, 02:57 AM."I want to go to my death bed one day knowing that even when my heart led me into the fire, I fucking did it anyway, and I have the story to tell."
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Imagine what a different place this forum would be if we focused on the amount wanting to be gained and not the total size of the dick.. if no beginning stats were given, everyone started at zero inches with goals of how many inches they wish to add, just progress of growth.. no mention of dick size, just dick growth. The guys who deserve the pats on the back are the ones who put in the hard yards and or the ones who gain not the ones who have the biggest dicks total amount of inches(esp if they had more to begin with) there would be no small, average or big dicks ..just big gainers, hard gainers. on my way to my goal gainers.Last edited by TTBB; 09-21-2012, 02:53 AM.
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We sort of do make it important. Men brag about how big their penis is, usually not true, get e-mails and regular mail about how important it is to have it bigger, and, normally, women don't retell the night before about that average penis they got into bed with last night, but the stories where it was big enough to fit them perfectly, making the word big important. When sex doesn't go well we point the finger right to the guys and something must be wrong with the penis. Then of course we have this site where if guys find their penis being bigger is of enough priority then they can spend 20 minutes to 2 hours a day on trying to get it bigger, buying or making their own equipment in doing that, and talking about it here, showing off how big we are or how big we have gotten from these exercises in our signatures as we post. If someone takes that much time out of their days and weeks getting it bigger than it shows that we have made it important, just like when you want to lose weight and change eating habits and exercising, making that important to us. If it wasn't important to someone than this site would not exist.Originally posted by spanky View PostI don't have the biggest cock, or the smallest. I suppose it's kind of average.
Do you know why Im happy with it?
Because I have made women happy with it, I know how to, and that makes me happy. And It feels good to me too. And all of that makes me happy.
We spend so much time banging on and on here about size, and honestly it devalues this site. I know that a lot of this site is devoted to making it bigger, and that, in a world where we're brought up to believe that that's impossible is a great thing. To know that it's possible. That's great. Providing support and guidance to do so. That's great.
But this site offers us men SO much more.
So for fuck's sake, lt's please not give anyone with a complex about it reason to believe they should hold onto that. Or reason to believe it matters. At the end of the day guys, if you're single, or a virgin, and you want to get laid? Having a bigger penis will not make the blindest bit of difference. But Not actually being wrapped up in it? That will probably help quite a lot. Those of you in relationships.. well, if your woman is going to leave you because it's not big enough? Dump the bitch. She's not interestsd in you. If you want to get bigger, for ego, and possibly for her benefit (ask her first, yeah?) .. then go for it. it's up to you.
But please don't promote or give any credence to any notion that it's actually important.
For someone like me, who is a virgin and single, penis size doesn't matter, because I know I am never going to have sex anyways, not because of my average penis, but because of the other average that encompasses my very being.
Just use the term average, because it is an average way of saying average, averagely.Last edited by Dontrike; 09-21-2012, 02:56 AM.
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Average is seen as bad because porn has made the average man a guy with a micro penis only there to make everyone else feel huge.
If we could just abolish pornography perhaps society could see how beautiful the human body is when it is proportional! I mean, if you look at it scientifically (my own views are here) defuk do you need 10 inches for? Reproduction-wise it will not be better, we were supposed to be chosen by our good genetic features: ability to hunt, intelligence to stay alive and not a thing that will most certainly hinder some escapes and only impress.
If you read this, I can tell you I was there too, feeling small and worthless, but if we just stop looking at the freaks that porno tells us are "the normal" size then we can appreciate how gorgeous the male body can be without an idiotically long appendix between your legs.
Good luck,
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Interesting Tink. That's exactly what I've decided to do. Instead of listing my size, I am choosing to list my gains.Originally posted by TINKERBELL View PostImagine what a different place this forum would be if we focused on the amount wanting to be gained and not the total size of the dick.. if no beginning stats were given, everyone started at zero inches with goals of how many inches they wish to add, just progress of growth.. no mention of dick size, just dick growth. The guys who deserve the pats on the back are the ones who put in the hard yards and or the ones who gain not the ones who have the biggest dicks total amount of inches(esp if they had more to begin with) there would be no small, average or big dicks ..just big gainers, hard gainers. on my way to my goal gainers.The above is not meant to be argumentative, abrasive or confrontational. Take this and everything you read with a grain of salt.
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Never lie about size. If it is average(if you can tell), call it average. If size isn`t important to you, focus on other things. Say it is hard, hot or sexy or whatever.
Whatever you do, don`t tell him it doesn`t matter and that he has a nice personality!
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Here's one thing I think is worth noting: All the size charts work in standard deviation form, such that not only is 5.5-6" the average figure but it also happens to be the mode - or most often, figure.
So not only are guys in that range of average size, but they are also of very common size. It's one thing to be in the middle, but average guys are also in very good company. The percentage chance of dating a woman with exclusively significantly larger partners is not terribly likely.I am no longer an active member on the PEGym.
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I'm sure someone's already said this but you're falling straight into the trap of equating "average" with "small". Average not small! I think part of the problem is the way we've come to think of average or regular meaning small because of the way, for example, cafes will call their three sizes of coffee medium, large and extra-large - which is ridiculous, because "medium" means in the middle, between two extremes. If there is no size smaller than medium then it's not medium, it's small.Originally posted by CUSP82 View PostMidsize; well it's better than compact! ( or a mini cooper).Plus they usually get better mileage.
Really, "average" is a totally neutral term and it's only because we have an obsession with being competitive and better than everyone else (which of course means bigger, in terms of dick size) that everyone wants to be bigger than average. But this is impossible, since half the population will always be below average!*
My suggestion is that we keep average to mean average, and just bear in mind that having a massive cock does not make you more of a man and is not automatically a magic passport to being an amazing lover.
*This is true by definition if when we say "average", we're talking about the median. If we're talking about the mean, then it's possible for >50% of a sample to be above or below that value, but for a statistic like dick size the mean and the median are probably very close.Last edited by Ivor; 09-21-2012, 10:32 AM.
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