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  • #46
    Originally posted by somebodyelse View Post
    "90:10" Straight/Bi Ratio for me because at the end of the day, I still think some guys are attractive. Not that I'm trying to suck a peen, but I may see a good looking guy and go "damn I wish I could look like him."

    As far as the Rest:

    MALE
    MASCULINE
    MALE
    HETERO: 90:10 at least. lol.
    This is exactly how I am.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by somebodyelse View Post
      I'm sorry I haven't finished reading the thread, but I did find it funny someone said "I'm an alpha male so there's no way I'd be bisexual"

      I tend to find the "Alpha" identifying dudes are the ones most likely to be hiding tendencies. A classic case of overcompensation.

      I know for a fact that there are guys who are absolutely Gay. They're not interested in women in the least bit. Been with women and couldn't get turned on. Mechanically, incapable of being attracted to women. They are also some of the most masculine men I've met.

      The flipside to that is dudes who swear up and down they're straight, then have these hidden proclivities for male on male.

      I'm not judgemental, but I find it laughable that someone would rest their sexuality on their personality. It's not something you can choose for the majority of gay men, nor the majority of straight men.

      For bisexuality, there's a weird thing in that. It's that you do somewhat have a choice which side you want to be on, but it could end up being a lonely existence if you decide to not pick a team.

      Picking a team, as a bisexual person, is paramount to solidifying your identity, in my eyes. Most people who identify as strictly bisexual are just coming to grips with being "Gay"... The rest are more than likely Bi-curious. So I would say that 30% thing is more "bi-curious" than an actual bisexual identification.
      Damn good insight!^^^^^^ Let's face it, as guys, we have both the x & y chromosomes. That X tames our hormones, tempers the testosterone that would make us complete animals if not for some chromosomal balance. Genetic make up has never been perfected, it's why there's disease & emotional weaknesses and psychosis more prevalent in males than females. We don't live as long as females because of it either, and in large part it's because of all the genetic & hormonal struggles we're born with and the internal ebb & flow of those hormones throughout our lifetimes, IMO. We all started out female in the womb, so there's gonna be some anomalies in that conversion in-utero for a certain percentage of males. Those variations in male hormonal development manifest in many different ways. Sexual orientation is just one of them. So is right / left brained/ handed/ footed/ etc. It's no different. We arrive with a code. You can spend your lifetime fighting the code you're given, trying to be somebody you're genuinely not, or accept the code and lead a happy and productive life, being true to yourself and those around you. I'd suggest the latter. There's personal, mental, sexual, and societal satisfaction in that choice. Don't let anyone make that choice for you nor pigeon-hole you into some category to satisfy a "study", a white-paper, or some dumb-ass article to syndicate to newspapers or the internet!
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      • #48
        Seriously never go by statistics, they provide numbers and probability that contribute to finding a constant, but things like sexual orientation there is no constant.

        I read that 10 out of 2 people are dislexic, find that undelievadle.
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        • #49
          Interesting thread.
          I find bi-women to be hot but have never felt any inclination to masturbate with another guy, let alone have sex with him.
          Nope.
          Not interested.
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          • #50
            And see, here I am, the odd guy who, at no point, has ever found two women kissing or lesbian porn scenes ever arousing.

            In fact, if a woman is bisexual, it's actually a "turn off" to me. I don't get it. Straight women are hot, lol! Women who like to work on cars are hot too... Especially in Daisy Dukes.

            To Add to the discussion:

            I have found a true comfort in my sexuality. I really do not care at all what anyone thinks of my past or my future. I know for a fact that I am quite straight, but i still struggle with low self-esteem.

            I think every person, whom ever wanted to be more in life, has struggled with who they are, at some point.
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            • #51
              Originally posted by somebodyelse View Post
              And see, here I am, the odd guy who, at no point, has ever found two women kissing or lesbian porn scenes ever arousing.

              In fact, if a woman is bisexual, it's actually a "turn off" to me. I don't get it. Straight women are hot, lol! Women who like to work on cars are hot too... Especially in Daisy Dukes.
              I feel the same. I was raised around that shit, it's not attractive to me. As far as I'm concerned two women making out is like any other couple making out. It's adorable that they love each other, I just don't want to see anybody sucking face like there's no tomorrow.

              I don't know why it's a turn off but it is. There's something about a woman who can't pick a team that I don't want anything to do with.
              Sex is the great leveler, taste the great divider. - Pauline Kael

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              • #52
                I'm still sexually confused at 27 it just means a automatic label of gay/homo.


                I blame a accident (and my mom) when I was hit by a pick up truck it partially wiped out my sexuality.

                basically to sum it up has wiped out "initial attraction stage" basically does not "work"


                secondly my mom had tried to make me gay or to reject women reject sex with women etc.. that just fucked me up more... by the time I became aware of it, it was too late . the Psychological damage was done as it happened over a 8 year period

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Thick_Unit View Post
                  I'm still sexually confused at 27 it just means a automatic label of gay/homo.


                  I blame a accident (and my mom) when I was hit by a pick up truck it partially wiped out my sexuality.

                  basically to sum it up has wiped out "initial attraction stage" basically does not "work"


                  secondly my mom had tried to make me gay or to reject women reject sex with women etc.. that just fucked me up more... by the time I became aware of it, it was too late . the Psychological damage was done as it happened over a 8 year period
                  Then you are DEMISEXUAL.

                  Look it up.
                  Sex is the great leveler, taste the great divider. - Pauline Kael

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                  • #54
                    I can easily say I am bicurious, but not because of some experience or tragic thing that happened. I would much rather have sex with women, but I've gotten off to random not straight porn and I could see myself experiencing sex with another guy at least once with not much concern. I can't see myself dating a guy though, they just don't attract me that way, and barely in any other way.

                    Don't bother me none and I'm sure it isn't linked to any of the hardships I experienced.

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                    • #55
                      As a teen I started mastubating with a friend and then I found other guys to masturbate with. In all I have masturbated with 7 different guys. All of which are married at this point except my cousin which is gay. All 7 of these guys told me they had masturbated with at least one other person. Of all the guys I ever asked to do this only two said no. And the one said he wanted to but was afraid of someone finding out. I just feel this kind of experimenting is common, but you just don't hear about it because most guys are embarrassed. Do I believe all guys do this? Absolutely not. But I feel it's very common. Also I have two brothers and I caught both of them doing this with friends of theirs. I never told them, because I was embarrassed to confront them about it.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Thick_Unit View Post
                        I'm still sexually confused at 27 it just means a automatic label of gay/homo.


                        I blame a accident (and my mom) when I was hit by a pick up truck it partially wiped out my sexuality.

                        basically to sum it up has wiped out "initial attraction stage" basically does not "work"


                        secondly my mom had tried to make me gay or to reject women reject sex with women etc.. that just fucked me up more... by the time I became aware of it, it was too late . the Psychological damage was done as it happened over a 8 year period
                        Originally posted by TheGreatDivider View Post
                        Then you are DEMISEXUAL.

                        Look it up.
                        Good info.

                        I'd heard about this before, but I knew it was something other than "Asexual"

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by commando kid View Post
                          As a teen I started mastubating with a friend and then I found other guys to masturbate with. In all I have masturbated with 7 different guys. All of which are married at this point except my cousin which is gay. All 7 of these guys told me they had masturbated with at least one other person. Of all the guys I ever asked to do this only two said no. And the one said he wanted to but was afraid of someone finding out. I just feel this kind of experimenting is common, but you just don't hear about it because most guys are embarrassed. Do I believe all guys do this? Absolutely not. But I feel it's very common. Also I have two brothers and I caught both of them doing this with friends of theirs. I never told them, because I was embarrassed to confront them about it.
                          Mutual masturbation was never a "thing" among guys when I was growing up, but I guess it's harmless adolescent curiosity; somewhat like playing "strip poker" was when I was a kid. I did that with other guys and girls too on several occasions. We all got to check out each others "equipment" visually, never any touching, but it was kinda innocent "kinky" fun that a lot of adolescents do, I think. Not unlike "playing doctor" with the next door neighbor girls! (lol)... did more than my share of that, too! Innocent sexual curiosity is perfectly normal growing up. If it progresses into same sex experimentation physically, then that's moving into a "different" sort of arena, IMO. I never desired touching another guy or letting them touch me when I was an adolescent; and never remember anything besides one of us getting a random boner or semi when the girls played poker with us guys (lol)! We all just laughed it off and kept dealing the cards!

                          Did you guys touch each other or masturbate each other as teens, commando?

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                          • #58
                            98% of the time we just did ourselves and watch each other. But, yes there was a couple times where we did masturbate each other, although this was not a common thing.

                            There was times when I had the opportunity to do more. A couple friends did ask me to do oral, and I refused. It was just never something I want to do.


                            To this day I still feel the same. I have read some of the fictitious stories here and they are kinda interesting until the story gets to two guys doing oral or anal, and that when I quit reading.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by commando kid View Post
                              98% of the time we just did ourselves and watch each other. But, yes there was a couple times where we did masturbate each other, although this was not a common thing.

                              There was times when I had the opportunity to do more. A couple friends did ask me to do oral, and I refused. It was just never something I want to do.


                              To this day I still feel the same. I have read some of the fictitious stories here and they are kinda interesting until the story gets to two guys doing oral or anal, and that when I quit reading.
                              Sounds like you were just discovering yourself as a teenager or a 20 something guy?, maybe a bit Bi-curious?, but made a decision that was not right for you, at the time. Unless you're still struggling with that, I'd say you seem to fit the 30% of having had same-sex consensual contact, but never acted further on it. Not something to mentally punish yourself for, or be hung-up sexually about, IMO. If it does still bother you though, I'd encourage you to seek some counseling to set your mind at ease. Guilt or questioning one's own sexuality can lead to problems down the road, if not dealt with.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by jockinthebox View Post
                                ...Not something to mentally punish yourself for, or be hung-up sexually about, IMO. If it does still bother you though, I'd encourage you to seek some counseling to set your mind at ease...
                                Or become a nudist .

                                I think that one decision alone resolved 2/3rds of my wife and I's hang-ups.
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