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What Putin says he is or others say he is isn't the point.

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What Putin says he is or others say he is isn't the point.

And from Newsweek a year ago come this straight from the horses mouth.

At a forum in Stavropol on Monday, Putin piled more criticism onto Lenin, but insisted his attitude to Communist ideas had never wavered and that to this day he keeps his party membership ticket at home.
“You know that I, like millions of Soviet citizens, over 20 million, was a member of the Communist Party of the USSR and not only was I a member of the party but I worked for almost 20 years for an organization called the Committee for State Security,” Putin said, referring to the KGB.
“I was not, as you know, a party member by necessity,” he said. “I liked Communist and socialist ideas very much and I like them still.”
In his speech, Putin insisted he was never just a “functionary” when it came to party matters and said the Moral Code of the Builder of Communism—a set of rules to be followed by all party members—“resembles the Bible a lot.”
According to the Russian president, the code revolved around key concepts such as brotherhood, equality and happiness.
However, Putin also conceded that these ideas were not implemented fully in the USSR and later admitted the Soviet Union began with repressions—something the Communists accused the tsar of.
Once again taking on Lenin, Putin said the founder of the Soviet Union was wrong in opposing his successor Joseph Stalin over the issue of how autonomous regions in the USSR should be.
Almost reiterating last week’s comments, Putin said Lenin laid “a landmine” underneath Russia when he opposed Stalin’s idea that separate republics should only have a “broad autonomy” and insisted instead that they should have the right to opt-out of the union whenever they want to.

Makes him a commy in my eyes.

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And from Newsweek a year ago come this straight from the horses mouth.

At a forum in Stavropol on Monday, Putin piled more criticism onto Lenin, but insisted his attitude to Communist ideas had never wavered and that to this day he keeps his party membership ticket at home.
“You know that I, like millions of Soviet citizens, over 20 million, was a member of the Communist Party of the USSR and not only was I a member of the party but I worked for almost 20 years for an organization called the Committee for State Security,” Putin said, referring to the KGB.
“I was not, as you know, a party member by necessity,” he said. “I liked Communist and socialist ideas very much and I like them still.”
In his speech, Putin insisted he was never just a “functionary” when it came to party matters and said the Moral Code of the Builder of Communism—a set of rules to be followed by all party members—“resembles the Bible a lot.”
According to the Russian president, the code revolved around key concepts such as brotherhood, equality and happiness.
However, Putin also conceded that these ideas were not implemented fully in the USSR and later admitted the Soviet Union began with repressions—something the Communists accused the tsar of.
Once again taking on Lenin, Putin said the founder of the Soviet Union was wrong in opposing his successor Joseph Stalin over the issue of how autonomous regions in the USSR should be.
Almost reiterating last week’s comments, Putin said Lenin laid “a landmine” underneath Russia when he opposed Stalin’s idea that separate republics should only have a “broad autonomy” and insisted instead that they should have the right to opt-out of the union whenever they want to.

Makes him a commy in my eyes.

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you're a commy plagirist in all of ours eyes because u copy and past without properly citing. Hows it feel to be a commy?

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Way too early for name calling guys. I just woke up.

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you're a commy plagirist in all of ours eyes because u copy and past without properly citing. Hows it feel to be a commy?

Get your facts right.

plagiarism definition. Literary theft. Plagiarism occurs when a writer duplicates another writer's language or ideas and then calls the work his or her own. Copyright laws protect writers' words as their legal property.

As I said its from Newsweek never said it was mine. OK

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So what's for lunch?!!!!!!!!

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you're a commy plagirist in all of ours eyes because u copy and past without properly citing. Hows it feel to be a commy?

It appears to me that Nowhard prefesed his post by saying it came straight out of Newsweek


Edit. Sorry. Nowhard already responded

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Putin appears to be a dictator using communism as a blind .
That is he professes to be a communist because it plays well at home .
Mind you I suppose you could say the same about much of the old soviet elite .
Note he runs down Lenin's idea that republics should be able to opt out. In fact Putin seems to believe that many separate countries should be controlled from Russia . So He wants Ukraine for instance not to become part of the west but to be in Russia orbit and in fact has taken a bite or 2 out of that country and added it to Russia.

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Pegman but there are what was parts of Russia now in the common Market, this was after the big split. the part of Ukraine he took back was a part given to Ukraine, and those living there wanted to, its all a bit mixed up and diplomatic.

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If you believe anything come out of Moscow you are being foolish.

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A recent article from the Economist.
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THE timing was ominous. A day after the first, seemingly cordial telephone conversation between Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin, the residents of Avdiivka, a small town on the Ukrainian side of the conflict line with Russian-backed separatists, heard the echoes of heavy artillery fire. The conflict that Russia started in Ukraine in 2014 has been partly frozen over the past two years. But on January 29th it flared up with renewed force.
Three days later, on February 1st, the bodies of seven Ukrainian soldiers killed in the fighting were brought to Kiev. Maidan, the city square that was the site of the country’s 2014 revolution, once again swelled with people. Social media were filled with messages of support for soldiers and calls to collect supplies for victims, along with videos of shelling by Russian Grad rockets. Ukrainian soldiers received text messages seemingly sent by the Russian side: “You are just meat to your commanders”. Since then other Ukrainian positions along the front line have been attacked, and the death toll is rising.
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Following the flare-up, international ceasefire monitors blamed “combined Russian-separatist forces” for starting the attacks. Ukrainian forces have been creeping forward into the “grey zone” in recent months, seizing positions in several small towns. The rebels might have felt it was an opportune moment to hit back.

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Whoever started the fighting, its victims are the 16,000 civilians in Avdiivka, who for days were cut off from electricity in temperatures of -20°C, and those in the rebel-held territories, many of whom lack water. The violence underscores the difficulty of implementing the Minsk Two ceasefire agreement, signed in February 2015, which the two sides interpret differently. For Kiev and its Western backers, the agreement is a path for Ukraine to reassert control over its east and close its border with Russia, followed by a decentralisation of power to its regions. Russia, however, sees the agreement as a way of retaining control over eastern Ukraine, keeping the border open and demanding that Kiev recognise Donbas as an autonomous region within Ukraine. This would give Russia permanent influence over Ukraine’s future.
From Ukraine’s point of view, the violence was a warning to its American and European allies, several of whom are considering lifting sanctions against Russia. “Who would dare talk about lifting the sanctions in such circumstances?” asked Petro Poroshenko, Ukraine’s president, who cut short a visit to Germany to attend to the crisis. Mr Poroshenko later said he would call a national referendum on joining NATO—which Russia considers a red line and NATO itself does not want.
Doubting the Donald
Many Russia-watchers think Mr Putin may have stoked the conflict to test his new American counterpart. Mr Trump has promised better relations with Moscow. Mr Putin may have decided to probe his willingness to turn a blind eye to Russian actions in Ukraine, the two countries’ main point of conflict. The Russian government says Ukraine was discussed in their telephone conversation.
In the past, significant escalations of fighting were quickly met by the White House or the State Department with strongly worded statements condemning Russian aggression and supporting Ukraine’s territorial integrity. This time it took the State Department two days to say it was “deeply concerned”; it did not mention Russia. This response was duly noted in Moscow. “Washington does put the blame on the [separatist] republics, does not express support for Kiev and does not say a word about Russia’s role,” Rossiiskaia Gazeta, the official government newspaper, wrote jubilantly.
The Kremlin also noted the American failure to react to the news that Alexei Navalny, an opposition leader and anti-corruption campaigner, would be tried again on trumped-up charges. Mr Navalny pledged to run against Mr Putin in next year’s presidential elections, but is now likely to observe Mr Putin’s re-election from a prison cell.

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Yet Trumps team why putting down this new outbreak are still seeking to have good relations with Russia,

And not forgetting Trump and Putin are good friends, perhaps Putin is testing the relationship.

See how Putin works get someone up against him, you just jail them, do you think Trump is working the same way, as he sacked one already, and another one has left.

Wonder what his popularity is now, it was 50% on day 11.

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So...what's an Australians view with the debacle over Trump and the Ozzie PM Peggie?

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Trump is coming off like a petulant child .

I don't even like Turnbull but he is urbane and reasonable , his enemy say he is too sweet natured . Attempts to find a scandal could only come up with he donated$ 1.75million to his own parties recent election campaign .
It seems he stood up strongly for Australia's interest despite his usual decorum . He seems to have come out of it well .