Dieting (All diets welcome)

[Thick_Unit Banned Find all posts View Profile Close Thick_Unit]

have you seen vegan teeth ??? the ones that look like a bunny rabbit, Yes a lot of them use dentures or veneers, because they rotted out from all the sugar they're living off of..

Not only is that 100% bull it's 1000% bull!

so you're say sugar does not rot your teeth.. i'm sure your dentist would disagree




a carbohydrate is sugar.....


So for the last 4 pages do you still want to claim vegetables and fruits are healthy?? when you're poisoning your self with sugar....


btw Fibre,sugar or carbs are not a nutrient... Other wise i could claim alcohol as nutrient, as it's made from fermenting sugar..



There is 56 names for sugar and 54 of them are from plants. Honey and lactose..would be from animal products.. i.e bees and milk

[Johnny D ModeratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Johnny D]

Are honey and lactose also poison and are there any other animal products that are poison?

[CUSP82 Administrator Admin of the Month Dec 2014PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close CUSP82]

Yes sugar decays teeth but vegan people have teeth as good or better than the general population.

[CUSP82 Administrator Admin of the Month Dec 2014PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close CUSP82]

The breakdown of edible plants initially begins in the mouth. Very little chemical breakdown occurs there even though the saliva contains enzymes to begin the digestion process. The actual digestion process occurs in the stomach and continues on through the intestines. Eating plants does not cause tooth decay; chocolate does.
Now what exactly do you have against sugar i.e glucose?

[Thick_Unit Banned Find all posts View Profile Close Thick_Unit]

Yes sugar decays teeth but vegan people have teeth as good or better than the general population.

cause they have false teeth lol. how is that good or better then anyone else?

The breakdown of edible plants initially begins in the mouth. Very little chemical breakdown occurs there even though the saliva contains enzymes to begin the digestion process. The actual digestion process occurs in the stomach and continues on through the intestines. Eating plants does not cause tooth decay; chocolate does.

humans can't physically digest them.... Even herbivores don't digest plants... they ferment them.. that is not digestion..

Now what exactly do you have against sugar i.e glucose?

it causes Cardiovascular Disease .. chronic inflammation....

Sugar damages the arteries.... it does not matter if it's from carbs, starches or refined sugar.....





a fruit such as a mango contains 56 grams of sugar so it's no different from a can of cola with corn syrup

[Johnny D ModeratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Johnny D]

That's not true. The metabolic response to each is very different.

[CUSP82 Administrator Admin of the Month Dec 2014PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close CUSP82]

Vegans do not have false teeth. Look I love discussing thing with you but let's not get silly.
As for sugar i.e glucose your brain runs on it.

[Thick_Unit Banned Find all posts View Profile Close Thick_Unit]

Vegans do not have false teeth.

sugar rots teeth

Correlation of salivary glucose level with blood glucose level in diabetes mellitus (nih.gov)

As for sugar i.e glucose your brain runs on it.

it runs on ethyl alcohol too it's the first to get metabolized over glucose... so you want to go by what is prioritized ethyl alcohol would be the best choice in the matter.

As for sugar i.e glucose your brain runs on it.

that is incorrect...
Ketones :: Diabetes Education Online (ucsf.edu)




you're only metabolizing the poison first which is sugar/glucose in this case...

which will end up stored as "fat"...






carbohydrates ,sugar or glucose or what ever you want to call it is not a nutrient.... there for is not required for normal bodily function....


A fasting glucose of 100mg/dL is a pre diabetic .... normal should be 80-85mg/dL

[CUSP82 Administrator Admin of the Month Dec 2014PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close CUSP82]

I wonder where you get your ideas or are you drunk? You see your brain and just about everything in your body runs on the energy provided by glucose metabolism. If you think your brain runs on ethyl alcohol then you are drunk because that's what that wonderful OH molecule does; it makes you drunk.
Ketones? So you think it's a good idea to run your body on ketone energy? Ketones are made by the body only when the fool human won't give the body what it needs; food and a balanced food at that.
You ignore the fact that raw meats are full of pathogens only removed by cooking them. There are hundreds of studies which PROVE that fiber help combat and prevent colon cancer and you get fiber from? Oh poison plants.
Oh vegans have no teeth? My hygienist wife and the dentists she works for says that's a load of crap but hey you found something on the net that says they do. Well the net ain't reality.

Oh and the sugar from carbohydrates and plants will end up as fat. Sure it will if you over eat.
Glucose is not needed for body function. So how do your muscles work? Just by themselves? I am sure you know the answer but I'll help you. Muscles get their energy to contract so you can do things like move and walk from a little molecule known as ATP. That gives the muscle the energy to do it's thing. Sadly the muscle doesn't have a great supply of ATP so it has to make more. What does the muscle use to make more ATP? Glycogen. Where is glycogen found? Well stored in the muscles and liver to be used when needed. What is glycogen made from? Oh that poison know as glucose.
Oh I know your muscles get the ATP they need as energy to contract from the raw meat/protein you eat. Bull! The body takes that met you eat, that protein and brakes it down into amino acids to build muscle and hormones and tissue; things the body needs for structure and function. It prefers fats and carbohydrates for energy because they contain more energy and it is easily available. If you think your body gets it's energy from proteins you are dead wrong.

So now go find some abstracts that show you're right and I'm wrong. Go find me a few that says all you need to live is to eat protein. Yes you can live on protein alone but very inefficiently. And what happens to that excess protein you eat? Well the body store it as fat, minus of course the amino acids in protein which are important.
Your body runs on glucose made from all the wonderful food on this planet. To say that's not true shows you have no idea how the body operates other than the abstracts you find. Funny I never read the abstracts; silly one page synopsis of a 20 page research article. I like to read the whole thing but right now I'm gonna go have a bit of fun with my good friend the old OH molecule found in dark rum and I know my brain will just love it.

[Thick_Unit Banned Find all posts View Profile Close Thick_Unit]

I wonder where you get your ideas or are you drunk? You see your brain and just about everything in your body runs on the energy provided by glucose metabolism. If you think your brain runs on ethyl alcohol then you are drunk because that's what that wonderful OH molecule does; it makes you drunk.
Ketones? So you think it's a good idea to run your body on ketone energy? Ketones are made by the body only when the fool human won't give the body what it needs; food and a balanced food at that.
You ignore the fact that raw meats are full of pathogens only removed by cooking them. There are hundreds of studies which PROVE that fiber help combat and prevent colon cancer and you get fiber from? Oh poison plants.
Oh vegans have no teeth? My hygienist wife and the dentists she works for says that's a load of crap but hey you found something on the net that says they do. Well the net ain't reality.

Oh and the sugar from carbohydrates and plants will end up as fat. Sure it will if you over eat.
Glucose is not needed for body function. So how do your muscles work? Just by themselves? I am sure you know the answer but I'll help you. Muscles get their energy to contract so you can do things like move and walk from a little molecule known as ATP. That gives the muscle the energy to do it's thing. Sadly the muscle doesn't have a great supply of ATP so it has to make more. What does the muscle use to make more ATP? Glycogen. Where is glycogen found? Well stored in the muscles and liver to be used when needed. What is glycogen made from? Oh that poison know as glucose.
Oh I know your muscles get the ATP they need as energy to contract from the raw meat/protein you eat. Bull! The body takes that met you eat, that protein and brakes it down into amino acids to build muscle and hormones and tissue; things the body needs for structure and function. It prefers fats and carbohydrates for energy because they contain more energy and it is easily available. If you think your body gets it's energy from proteins you are dead wrong.

So now go find some abstracts that show you're right and I'm wrong. Go find me a few that says all you need to live is to eat protein. Yes you can live on protein alone but very inefficiently. And what happens to that excess protein you eat? Well the body store it as fat, minus of course the amino acids in protein which are important.
Your body runs on glucose made from all the wonderful food on this planet. To say that's not true shows you have no idea how the body operates other than the abstracts you find. Funny I never read the abstracts; silly one page synopsis of a 20 page research article. I like to read the whole thing but right now I'm gonna go have a bit of fun with my good friend the old OH molecule found in dark rum and I know my brain will just love it.

um you body makes it's own supply of sugar, an external supply is not required or oral consumption...

[Johnny D ModeratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Johnny D]

um you body makes it's own supply of sugar, an external supply is not required or oral consumption...

But you said that you drink milk. Milk has lactose. Lactose is sugar. You said that sugar is poison and shouldn't be consumed.
You also said you eat fruit sometimes. Then you compared a mango to corn syrup (a rubish statement) because fruit has the poison, sugar.
Is sugar ok sometimes or never. It's hard to follow when you make contradictory statements like these.

You also said that peas are toxic but you referred to Lathyrus which is an inedible pea. The edible pea Pisum doesn't contain that neurotoxin so do you still claim that peas are toxic?

[CUSP82 Administrator Admin of the Month Dec 2014PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close CUSP82]

um you body makes it's own supply of sugar, an external supply is not required or oral consumption...

Wrong!

[Thick_Unit Banned Find all posts View Profile Close Thick_Unit]

Wrong!

yes it does



literally science disagrees with you..

it's able to maintain a consistent 85mg/dL

The Liver & Blood Sugar :: Diabetes Education Online (ucsf.edu)

[Thick_Unit Banned Find all posts View Profile Close Thick_Unit]

But you said that you drink milk. Milk has lactose. Lactose is sugar. You said that sugar is poison and shouldn't be consumed.
You also said you eat fruit sometimes. Then you compared a mango to corn syrup (a rubish statement) because fruit has the poison, sugar.
Is sugar ok sometimes or never. It's hard to follow when you make contradictory statements like these.

You also said that peas are toxic but you referred to Lathyrus which is an inedible pea. The edible pea Pisum doesn't contain that neurotoxin so do you still claim that peas are toxic?

Humans can actually digest lactose At lest the evolved ones can. this means humans have the enzyme(s) to break it down... the nutritional value exceeds the risk...of 13 grams of sugar... it also has everything for animal life to exist. the raw version anyways..





while a 12oz can of corn soda has 40 grams of sugar and Zero nutritional value

Stop lying to your self it says right on the ingredients list Corn syrup it's condensed corn juice made in a laboratory...i.e high fructose or crystallized to pure dextrose.



just because it's edible does not mean it's digestible or offers BioAvailable nutritional value..






once the liver is full of fat you become obese from excessive carbohydrate consumption... Ever heard of Non-Alcoholic fatty liver disease?

[Johnny D ModeratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Johnny D]

Humans can actually digest lactose At lest the evolved ones can. this means humans have the enzyme(s) to break it down... the nutritional value exceeds the risk...of 13 grams of sugar... it also has everything for animal life to exist. the raw version anyways..



while a 12oz can of corn soda has 40 grams of sugar and Zero nutritional value

Stop lying to your self it says right on the ingredients list Corn syrup it's condensed corn juice made in a laboratory...i.e high fructose or crystallized to pure dextrose.



just because it's edible does not mean it's digestible or offers BioAvailable nutritional value..






once the liver is full of fat you become obese from excessive carbohydrate consumption... Ever heard of Non-Alcoholic fatty liver disease?

Where am I lying to myself? Your can of soda argument is a straw man and I never said a thing about it.

I simply asked you to reconcile how you eat fruit and drink while claiming that all sugar is toxic.

And, again, you also said that all plants are toxic but haven't produced anything to support that assertion for edible peas.