Something too good to be true?

[tmwstw Member Find all posts View Profile Close tmwstw]

The latest PE technique
He's on other forums as well .. talking about the same thing in the same tone .. not promising anything ... just letting people know about his procedure ... What do you guys think?

[hsarge Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close hsarge]

I actually encouraged him to post to other forums that had a thread on his procedure.

[Johndoe Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Johndoe]

This is how he is advertising his procedure, by posting in penis enlargement forums. If he was just getting opinions he wouldn't have a $1900 prepay feature on the webpage.

[CUSP82 Administrator Admin of the Month Dec 2014PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close CUSP82]

You know it's a funny thread, minus all the hostility.Two distinct groups; the ones who'd love to get two inches with a simple injection and the other group that believes it's not possible given todays current medical practice and knowledge.I 've said this before; if there was a way to increase the size of our dicks by 2 inches the man that invented the procedure, pill, or whatever would be on the cover of every newspaper and magazine in the world, he'd be wealthy beyond his dreams, and we'd all be standing in line waiting for our turn!

[hsarge Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close hsarge]

Cusp82: That is not exactly correct.I have been Peing for several years, including stretching, hanging, and pumping with good success. What interests me is the fact that this therapy could speed healing and encourage growth precipitated by PEing. I in no way feel that the injection, by itself, will do anything but be a filler, probably temporary. You have to cause stress to create the growth.If this has a girth filler effect, it is certainly less invasive than suturing in cadaver skin, or abdominal fat. I state again, i feel the shot by itself will do little more than be a filler. You must PE! You can take all the supplements, pills, protein, and injections, and you will not grow muscle until you hit the weight room hard. I'm past puberty. The natural growth spurt for me is over. If this can make my PE more effective, I would be quite pleased. With anything, you get back only the work you put in. But, something that makes the work produce more efficiently, is always appreciated.

[blancodb Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close blancodb]

Well, I look forward to your ongoing research and data Dr. Runels!

[DiscoStick Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close DiscoStick]

I haven't read the whole thread yet but Doctor, what do you think about DHT for penis enlargement? Could DHT be added to the shot you give?

[superstar808 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close superstar808]

For all the doubters and skeptics of this approach you should read this month's Life Extension Magazine 12/10 and their discussion of using mesenchymal cells to treat arthritis. This isn't fringe science. It's mainstream. The various forms of stem cell therapies waiting to explode, especially the use of autologous stem cells (from your own body) are immense. I believe Dr. Runel's theories are sound. It's the cutting edge of science -- and a lot more sensible than wearing a stretcher for hours a day.

The biggest obstacle standing in the way of many advancements and life saving therapies is, as usual, our government - which seeks through the FDA to clamp controls on everything and everyone. And to what avail? Listen to the television commercials for major pharma and you'll hear the legally required lists of lethal side effects for practically any of the touted, approved drugs. Let someone make a far-fetched case for the possible involvement of a supplement or an herb in some negative outcome -- and the FDA will snatch that product off the market instantly -- and without constitutional authority, I might add. They were not originally charted as a police organization, but an advisory one. But like all government agencies they indulge in mission creep -- to the detriment and even the death of millions. Terminal cancer patients are denied therapies they might benefit from. Why? is it to save lives? No, it's to preserve and extend the power of the FDA. Your life, your health, the size and function of your penis, are merely collateral damage in their obsessive extension of agency power. Set the imagination and creativity of intelligent men and women free -- and you will see most of the so-called big problems, like energy, climate change, etc. disappear. That is not the goal of government, however. They need and want to perpetuate problems to empower and enrich themselves, ObamaCare being the prime example of the totalitarian shackling of medical innovation.

I found this site and Dr. Runel's information by searching stem cells and penis, whereupon I came upon this forum. My reasoning in setting the search criteria was similar to what Dr. Runels described as his own thinking in coming up with this therapy. Why would you assume that an MD, who you'd allow to administer to you an IV or injection of vaccine, for example, would not be applying the same medical standards to the practice of his own innovational therapy? One poster commented on how many things could go wrong. That's true, if you were to attempt this sort of thing at home in less than sterile conditions or with improperly measured or treated injectables. But why would one voice such exaggerated caution when the man involved is an MD. Would you imagine that Dr. Rundel is any less competent than some urologist doing Penis Enlargement surgeries? We know that's a traumatic, sometime dangerous procedure. And the results are less than satisfactory. Whereas Dr. Rundel's therapy does not alter the basic morphology of the penis, but merely enhances what you have -- and with the safest injectable possible, your own blood platelets.

The answer to my earlier "why" is that people follow the phony authority of the media, the government, and the common practices they're familiar with. That's really not the American way, guys. We're supposed to be pioneers, revolutionaries, individualists.

I noted on the Dr.'s post that his heroes range from Jesus to DaVinci to Franklin and Walt Whitman. Let me assure you, these were men of courageous creativity and originality, Jesus being of course in a category by himself. We should follow them, not the manipulators who rule our world today, stifling the human spirit wherever they can.

I do not know Dr. Runels, nor have I ever communicated with him (though I intend to). But I think his work is to be applauded and encouraged. I think if the skeptics look into the whole subject of stem cell therapy they'll come away with enthusiasm for the future, rather than doubt. As I said, the chief impediment to near term availability of many medical miracles is the intrusion of the regulators. I may make a trip to the Gulf coast myself one day, as Runel's sounds like a credible man of medicine and an honest one at that.

[Johndoe Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Johndoe]

He sounds like a quack to me. He never came back to the forum and mass posted the same way on other PE forums. I wish he would comeback so he could explain the studies and biological mechanisms within the penis that he hypothesizes are "changed" by his procedure.

[CUSP82 Administrator Admin of the Month Dec 2014PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close CUSP82]

Why if you were a reputable physcian would you have to get on a penis website and mass market your brand new, untried, unapproved, unrealistic treatment for penis enlargement? Not making enough doing nose jobs? Reputable docs that I know just don't act that way!

[Johndoe Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Johndoe]

You guys should take a look at this...

http://www.fda.gov/downloads/Regulat.../UCM143673.pdf

[Batwoman Moderator ReservePEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Batwoman]

Wow. But I must say that I am not very surprised.

[CUSP82 Administrator Admin of the Month Dec 2014PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close CUSP82]

Just your normal reputable guy looking for a buck. Too good to be true says it all!

[CUSP82 Administrator Admin of the Month Dec 2014PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close CUSP82]

One more point should be made.While others were on this thread extolling this jerks accomplishments ( which there weren't any) and degrading the FDA as to holding back medical progress and such who's job is it to protect the victims? This jerk used poor indigent people for his own use, his own experiment, not giving them not only the proper information but lack of care and followup of these people. Who watches out for them? Certainly not Dr Runnels. If they suffered at all who will take care of them and pay their bills if they were harmed? Without and FDA this type of crap would be rampant! There were members here, if they had the money, that would have gone to this guy for the procedure.Shame on anyone doing this to live people but to him they were just guinea pigs! He said in his introduction that he was a big believer in Jesus! Jesus is gonna kick his ass! ( especially if one of his unknowing test subjects got hurt!

[Pirate Retired AdministratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Pirate]

You guys should take a look at this...

http://www.fda.gov/downloads/Regulat.../UCM143673.pdf

Wow.