My take on PE. and how i cured it

[Schmukk Member Find all posts View Profile Close Schmukk]

Do you breathe into your chest or into your belly?

Taking in deep belly breaths shouldn't take you closer to PONR

I'd say I breathe in through my chest a bit, but i try to do belly breathing for the most part. I somehow feel like focusing on belly breathing makes me tense or smth? I think trying to RK by holding air in the belly a little also might be causiong me to get to PONR. Not sure how to hard RK without tensing the abs tho

[andrewvi7 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close andrewvi7]

I'd say I breathe in through my chest a bit, but i try to do belly breathing for the most part. I somehow feel like focusing on belly breathing makes me tense or smth? I think trying to RK by holding air in the belly a little also might be causiong me to get to PONR. Not sure how to hard RK without tensing the abs tho

Try not jumping the gun, learn to RK while standing/walking first, then while edging, then while having sex. I personally skipped the edging part but as others have mentioned this may be useful for some.

They are progressively harder to accomplish with each step.

Keep trying RK with abs, it just means that your pelvic floor is refusing to lengthen and you need to engage your abs to produce more force. Or ATP is making it harder.

Either way, once you crack RK, you make it impossible to ejaculate if the RK is powerful enough. For arguments sake I tried it a few nights ago with 20min of edging with porn and was controlling my PONR like a yo-yo. Once it creeped up into an 8/10 I simply engaged an RK while continuing to edge and it fell back down as much as I would want, maybe even go limp if I RK'd long enough.

[WillGetBetter Senior Member Member of the Month Nov 2018 Find all posts View Profile Close WillGetBetter]

I know you solved your problem a while ago, but I just want to say congratulations again. It really is inspiring to read successes like yours.

[andrewvi7 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close andrewvi7]

I know you solved your problem a while ago, but I just want to say congratulations again. It really is inspiring to read successes like yours.

Thanks man, appreciate it all.

I'll be hanging around the forum for a while, trying to collect as much info as possible around PE. Hoping to write a good manual with routines, exercises, everything. Just a compilation of information that's more than just "Do kegels and it'll fix your PE!" kinda thing. But the essence of it all is in this post.

Truth be told im still trying to master the final step, RK while having sex. While PE no longer exists, If the girl starts proper arching around, moaning, begging hard... The arousal still tends to out power the RK and i still gotta slow down to take back control. I'm hoping to get it to a point where the RK can be strong enough to even withstand a porn kind of sex scene... and i'm GUESSING that the TVA muscles might be the key.

[ACPreE Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ACPreE]

Thanks man, appreciate it all.

I'll be hanging around the forum for a while, trying to collect as much info as possible around PE. Hoping to write a good manual with routines, exercises, everything. Just a compilation of information that's more than just "Do kegels and it'll fix your PE!" kinda thing. But the essence of it all is in this post.

Truth be told im still trying to master the final step, RK while having sex. While PE no longer exists, If the girl starts proper arching around, moaning, begging hard... The arousal still tends to out power the RK and i still gotta slow down to take back control. I'm hoping to get it to a point where the RK can be strong enough to even withstand a porn kind of sex scene... and i'm GUESSING that the TVA muscles might be the key.

Wouldn't strengthening the TVA muscle help with APT as well? The exercises i'm doing for APT seem to be around the same idea as strengthening the core along with stretching the back.

[WillGetBetter Senior Member Member of the Month Nov 2018 Find all posts View Profile Close WillGetBetter]

I put together a PreE90 routine that Big Al posted as an article today. I plan to post it in the pre e forum to get feed back.

[andrewvi7 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close andrewvi7]

Wouldn't strengthening the TVA muscle help with APT as well? The exercises i'm doing for APT seem to be around the same idea as strengthening the core along with stretching the back.

Yeah bang on, i was a little 'unaware' of just how deep the core muscles went. I just trained the abdominals and got bulkier abs but not a tighter core until i realised what part TVA played. Not sure why my recent RK ability/gains shot up, sustained practise of RKing or the additional TVA training? Hmmmm

I put together a PreE90 routine that Big Al posted as an article today. I plan to post it in the pre e forum to get feed back.

Do it, looking forward to reading it.

[Pegasus AdministratorPE Gym EditorPEGym Hero ☺ Admin of the Month Mar 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Pegasus]

Yeah bang on, i was a little 'unaware' of just how deep the core muscles went. I just trained the abdominals and got bulkier abs but not a tighter core until i realised what part TVA played. Not sure why my recent RK ability/gains shot up, sustained practise of RKing or the additional TVA training? Hmmmm



Do it, looking forward to reading it.

It's currently up as the latest Pegym article .

[Schmukk Member Find all posts View Profile Close Schmukk]

[QUOTE=andrewvi7;1570694]Yeah bang on, i was a little 'unaware' of just how deep the core muscles went. I just trained the abdominals and got bulkier abs but not a tighter core until i realised what part TVA played. Not sure why my recent RK ability/gains shot up, sustained practise of RKing or the additional TVA training? Hmmmm

Bro, do you mind sharing your TVA/Core routine? And any suggestions on stretching the lower back? Also, echoing what WillGetBetter said, your story rly is inspiring, and actualy one of the bigger reasons im putting in much more effort into beating pre-e.

Rly tryna focus on the physiological side of this and am actually seeing out imbalanced a lot of my muscles are.

[andrewvi7 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close andrewvi7]

Bro, do you mind sharing your TVA/Core routine? And any suggestions on stretching the lower back? Also, echoing what WillGetBetter said, your story rly is inspiring, and actualy one of the bigger reasons im putting in much more effort into beating pre-e.

Rly tryna focus on the physiological side of this and am actually seeing out imbalanced a lot of my muscles are.

Glad you found it motivating pal.

Mmm I wouldn't say its a routine, just something I started doing when doing abs. And that's the vacuum, leg raises, cable crunches and planks mainly. Not in that order 😂

In terms of lower back stretching, I kind of stand up next to something, reach over across with my arm and grab like a door frame and lean back stretching backwards... If that make sense? Basically with a bend in the hips and abs, rotating to one side and reaching for something. Seems like the only way to really stretch that lower back. I've tried various yoga poses but my muscles are either far too resistant to give in, or it's just not effective enough.

[Anklepain Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Anklepain]

In terms of lower back stretching, I kind of stand up next to something, reach over across with my arm and grab like a door frame and lean back stretching backwards... If that make sense? Basically with a bend in the hips and abs, rotating to one side and reaching for something. Seems like the only way to really stretch that lower back. I've tried various yoga poses but my muscles are either far too resistant to give in, or it's just not effective enough.

I Didnt understand this. Do you mean one hand grabbing door frame and other hand reachin something from the floor next to the door frame the other hand is grabbing?

[andrewvi7 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close andrewvi7]

Right i knew i fucked up on the description lol

If you stand next to a door frame, use the hand on the opposite side to grab the frame, and lean away from the frame. I have to go pretty low but it works.

Similar to this, except i proper bend my knees and put a lot of weight into the pull.... sorta speak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8qn_Gnggdc

[justin482000 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close justin482000]

Hi Andrewvi7,

Do you stop working on kegel altogether and only work on reverse kegel?

Does stopping kegel pratice affects your erection quality?

Thanks

[andrewvi7 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close andrewvi7]

Hi Andrewvi7,

Do you stop working on kegel altogether and only work on reverse kegel?

Does stopping kegel pratice affects your erection quality?

Thanks

Nope. Still as solid as a metal rod.

Despite me not doing any kegels, my PF is strengthened through other means like deep heavy squats and ab work which do a far better job than kegels and no damage to my bedroom stamina.

If you're experiencing low EQ because of RKs, put more focus on training your glutes. Should fix that pretty rapidly. But I haven't had issues with EQ so my advice might not be the most reliable in that topic.

[Anklepain Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Anklepain]

Nope. Still as solid as a metal rod.

Despite me not doing any kegels, my PF is strengthened through other means like deep heavy squats and ab work which do a far better job than kegels and no damage to my bedroom stamina.

Do you think I need to avoid deep heavy squat and ab work in the begining because I already have tight pelvic floor?