5 Months In: No progress with IKs

[Guccimayne1986 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Guccimayne1986]

Btw, mods at PE gym, please dont think I am endorsing supplement/drug use as I am not.

i am still working hard on a natural and sustainable solution - still edging regularly and still grinding through MM's dry orgasm guide.

If I find success naturally, we will have blueprint for those not having success through traditional physical methods.

I will thrive!!!

[longerlastingnoob Senior Member Member of the Month Jan 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close longerlastingnoob]

I quickly looked up phenibut, I had never heard of it before, It is a GABA inhibitor, used to treat anxiety, depression, and has been successful in treating mild pain, seems very similar to srri's.

GABA is what stops neurotransmitters which it binds to from firing too much, so the neurotransmitters that trigger anxiety, excitement etc.

[longerlastingnoob Senior Member Member of the Month Jan 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close longerlastingnoob]

Also phenibut is listed as a supplement on certain sites, but as a med on others, but either way no problem with you sharing what is working for you, hopefully you can use it and slowly decrease the dose, then wean yourself off it until you don't need it.

[Guccimayne1986 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Guccimayne1986]

Absolutely! That's what I am trying to do. At least I can conclude that pre-E is more of a mental problem for me than physical one.

Now, we just need to figure out a natural way to cure the mental aspect!

[Minuteman Member of the Month March 2013. Find all posts View Profile Close Minuteman]

Yes. Its fantastic BUT side effects next morning and withdrawal arent pleasant.

Whats bothering me is that, if I get into a relationship, how can I be so reliant on a shady supplement that can maybe affect my long term health?

But, determing the root cause of how and why phenibut is working may offer us a way to find a natural solution.

I think that longterm you will manage without it, because the fact that you have lasted longer will stay in your mind as something that can happen. Also if you are in a good enough relationship your partner may have the similar effect as the phenibut (the good side). Having somebody that you can fully trust and be relaxed around (and generally be yourself) will just mirror your edging sessions (at least that is what I think). Having that level or relationship is hard though, but not impossible. Finding such partner can be as difficult as fixing premE.

Mental part is also very tricky to fix (but can also be very easy, it really depends), but now that you will pay more attention to that aspect as well maybe it will uncover some other deeper issues as well. Most of the time both physical and psychological side of the premE will be connected or affecting something else, or even start from some other point (social anxiety in general) and spill into sexual life.

[Stealthpeman Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Stealthpeman]

I'm thinking the same as well(mental over physical) I'm gonna test a few more things that I have stumbled across.

Have you ever been tested for Pyroluria? I'm going to ask my doctor to see if they can test for it. I have some but not a lot of the symptoms.

https://www.pegym.com/forums/prematu...pplements.html

The other thing I want to test is climaxagen which is either a pill or cream form or both. Pretty costly thou but looks like a good product.

[Shikamaru Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Shikamaru]

man idk how different we are cuz i still have anxiety issues sometimes with my girl but still able to last preety long but PE is beatable even if its mental. the more you practice, the better you become. seriously invest in a fleshlight stu whne warmed up correctly feels damn near as good as a real vagina! that shit is great. edging should help ur mental part . still work on ur physical side and everything should get better. get you a girl that you can have sex with reguarly. even if that means u making her ur girlfriend and she doesnt have to be the hottest you just want someone you can practice having sex with and be relaxed. i know it may sound bad using a girl just for sex but hey you gotta do what you gotta do to beat ur PE. best practice is the real thing bro. read my log ive made crazy progress i use to cum before i even went inside a girl now i can last 20+ minutes with no condom sex. trust me man PE is beatable especially from the mental side. you dont need medicines thats just a temporary thing. you have to face ur fears and beat it head on. you may keep failing over and over but you will succeed. just like basketball everyone has bad games but you will have good games to. you just gotta keep practicing!

[Guccimayne1986 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Guccimayne1986]

Hey guys,

I have been MIA for a while because I have been working on a startup and that has kept me incredibly busy.

Over the last few months I went cold turkey. No time gor edging. I focussed the limited time I get per week on dry orgasm guide.

I ejaculated only a few times over this petiod snd didnt not have sex up until recently.

I met a very nice snd understanding woman (I have told her evetything about my problem) and have been having sex without any substances (phenibut). As expected I am unable to last over 10 sec in round 1 and 30 seconds in round (despute slow thrusting).

Despite reaching level 2 in the dry orgadm guide, it is just incredibly difficult to perform a DO. In my training I have just started performing towel raises. Maybe, I need a couple of months of conditioning before I can be good at DOs?

As usual, reverse kegels don't really help me and I just feel strained. I only see dry orgasm as somewhat of a solution. I kniw if I can perform a DO correctly, it numbs my PF and I dont have the pressure in my PF that causes me to cum.

I am just hoping I can reach a stage where I can keep DOing with ease. I just don't know if I will reach that stage.

2 years into my journey and I am still trying to find a solution.

[Stealthpeman Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Stealthpeman]

Hey Gucci, long time.
As we had a similar problem I found some info and ending up with a minor frenulum breve(sp)problem where my foreskin pulls on the under side of the penis when retracted.

This is very common and pulls on your f-spot. I've tried to fix mine a few times but my practice and timing wasn't the best but I had some minor success with it. Look up frenulum tying it can be done yourself without to much trouble.
After a lot of wasted time and being busy I've wanted to get back into trig to make length gains for now.

On a side note I can last for as long as I want with the smallest amount of Emma cream on the head. I find this better then other numbing stuff cause you can still feel pressure on your head. I want to do more frenulum tying on my unit to free it up even more. This time with some bead string that is stretchy which I suspect will aid better in the results I want.

Stealthpeman!

[JanTantra Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close JanTantra]

@Stealthpeman - Why do you perform frenulum tying? Is it to fix PE, is it to get gains in penis size, or is it just because you like the look and feel?

[Stealthpeman Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Stealthpeman]

@Stealthpeman - Why do you perform frenulum tying? Is it to fix PE, is it to get gains in penis size, or is it just because you like the look and feel?

There are a few reasons.

- when the skin gets pulled on like it does during sex it pulls on the frenulum, for me this causes me to have an involuntary contraction and leads to pre e.

That part of the skin doesn't have any real purpose(I'm thinking just so it causes the foreskin to recover the head again)

When the tie has been done the penis looks a lot nicer, much like a circumcised penis

You don't loose your f-spot sensations when you tie but almost always loose it from circumcision.

Some guys do it to fix frenulum breve, where they can't completely retract their foreskin over the head

There's a lot of articles of the web if you search, some better then others.

Things I would go with thou
-use a light when you do your tie so you miss the veins.

- use a stretchy bead string which means you won't have to re tie the knot or reinsert another string

-emla cream to numb the piecing (layered not rubbed in for 5-10 mins)

-Proper knots

[Guccimayne1986 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Guccimayne1986]

I have been ghosting the forums from time to time.

I have found a solution to my pre-E but it came via the chemical route unfortunately (pegasus don't hate me for this, I did everything possible and followed all the steps from you, minuteman,LLN and many other gurus here diligently for many years but I just couldn't see any progress).

But Pegasus I must give you credit for spotting a lower back/posture issue which I have been addressing via stretches and breathing techniwues which activate the core.

I even considered doing the banding but decided against it for obvious reasons.

So the drug which has help me overcome Pre-E is called Lyrica or Pregabalin. Its used to treat fibromyalgia or nerve pain and works via the GABA channels. Long time ago a supplement produced the same effect but it had horrendous side effects so I quit. I never tried nor will try antidepressents.

Heres some research:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2671940/

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/20801724/

Best thing about lyrica is that you can take it 2 hours before sex and be good to go. You dont need take any other time. And side effects are close zero (I get good sleep on it).

So this worked for me and it has worked well for few months. I can last as long as I want.

I am still doing yoga, squats, lacrosse ball massage (upper and lower body), stationary cycling, martial arts and most importantly good diaphragmatic breathing to be able to be drug some day.......

[Lonewolf123 Banned Find all posts View Profile Close Lonewolf123]

Try <content removed> it helps restore and nourish the penis back to its fullest strength it's meant to be a natural strong remedy from the himalayas

[MythicMaster Member Find all posts View Profile Close MythicMaster]

Im doing exercises for quite a while (every day, hindi squats, yoga poses RK etc). but I still have the same issues as you @Guccimayne1986

So I am interested in the supplements you took and how they worked.
I want to give my girlfriend good sex from time to time.

I saw you used Phenibut, Lyrica and Pregabalin.

Phenibut is easily accessible and can be bought anywhere for low prices.

Lyrica and Pregabalin seem like meds that need prescription..

So to test if it works can I just get Phenibut ?

Anyone else has experience with this ? And how long before sex should I take this ?

What were the downsides ?