RisingHope's Journey to cure PreE

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Day 4(November 14^th 2014):

Decided to take a break for today. Testicle area still feels fatigued. I’ll see what tomorrow has in reserve for me.

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Day 5(November 15^th 2014): Pelvic floor is finally back to normal (about 90%). Monday, I’m starting sublevel 0.4 of Minuteman’s DO routine.

Observations: Started stroking with a blank mind and at a normal pace. No erection. Took me about 2-3 minutes to get going. I see the IK twitches as soon as I get erect but not when I’m semi-erect. I continued to stroke for a while, then I switched to focusing on my glans. It seems what happened on Day 3 was just me being horny. I focused on my glans but while keeping my breathing stable and holding RKs. I was able to experience the sensations without going nuts or tensing my legs.

After re-reading ammonite’s Plateau Edging, I’ll need to change my mindset of oh I’m not feeling anything AGAIN. With all this information I possess, I’ve already won half the battle. The other half is to apply everything correctly until I cure this!

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Day 6(November 17^th 2014): Herp-a-derp, missed a session yesterday…no problem though, this won’t happen often. Pelvic floor is relaxed after this…

Observations: Started doing RKs in yoga poses. For now I’m sticking to the easier positions: Yoga Child, Pigeon Pose and Leg Drop Pose. Also doing them in Deep Squat position. I could feel my perineum area inflating a bit before, but when doing it in Yoga Child pose, its way stronger and I feel way more relaxed. From now on I’m doing 50 RKs every morning.

For edging, decided to mix it a bit. First half is plateau edging and second half is ballooning to get used to glans stimulation. During the first half stroked with a blank mind and trying to hold a RK. Every time I count 1...2, my penis does an IK spasm. So I tried following that rhythm to hold RKs. For now I’ll just keep doing this and observe the effects.

For the second half, I focused only on the sensitive spot on my glans. Intense sensations ensued. I managed to last the whole 10 minutes. Around the 8-9 minutes mark though, the sensations were pushing me towards the PONR,so I stopped before even reaching it.

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Progressing quick, are you still doing the 3day edging?

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Progressing quick, are you still doing the 3day edging?

Like MM's guide says, I'll do it every week-end

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Day 7(November 18^th 2014): 1 week done, 15 to go for part 1 of 5 of Edging for plateau. Yoga poses and edging ftw!

Observations: During the first half, I tried tilting my hips forward or backwards while doing an RK and edging. I think it might have slowed down the IKs a bit, but I think that might have been my eyes playing tricks on me…only CLEARLY observable results matter! If only I could take a video of my IKs and try to see at which interval they happen…

For the 2^nd half, ballooned my magic spot, can take the stimulation a bit more…with a blank mind. Even decided to go a bit crazy of my glans and also did some thrusting. IKs were very observable. Legs tensed at some points. Didn’t reach PONR. Of course, without a blank mind I would probably have cummed hard.

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Day 8(November 19^th 2014): Felt kinda tired mentally during the day. This evening though, I’m pretty relaxed. I did my DO routine well this morning but in the evening, I got a bit lax on my counting. Read Sanglot’s post: I cured my PE. I realized that every time I used to masturbate to porn, I used my arousal to trigger orgasm, instead of using the pleasure I was feeling (never felt pleasure, since I was always done in less than 1 minute.) Too early for me to apply this with a partner, but I’ll remember to focus on the pleasure I’m feeling from this.

Observations: For the 1^st half, edged while tilting my hips backward. I don’t have a timer, but I think my IKs spasms happen at the rate of 1 spasm/second. Is that too fast? Anyway, if I could lower the rate to 1 spasm per 2 secs, it would be great.

For the 2^nd half, ballooning my magic spot. I can tolerate rubbing it with the palm of my hand. When I cover my glans with my fingers and start *polishing my knob*, it gets a bit intense but I can somewhat tolerate it with deep breathing.

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Day 9(November 20^th 2014): I think I should now include my general arousal state for the day in my log…since it can greatly affect my edging. Usually, during the day I get erect pretty often, thinking of women or being near one. Today, there were no women near me and I only got erect twice, while imagining some erotic scenario with a women. I don’t think of porn anymore (last relapse was on the 8th). Progress? I guess.

Arousal state: Not very horny

Observations: Speaking of not being very horny, it took me a bit of time for me to get erect. By really focusing on the sensation, I managed to get hard without my imagination. I need to be stricter with my deep breathing. During the 2^nd half I deep breathe a lot, but during the 1^st half, I get lax (since I don’t really need to distract my mind).

For the 2^nd half, like usual, I rubbed my sensitive spot with the palm of my hand, in a wide stroke. Then I go more intensively by cupping my glans in my hand and doing *polishing* and circular movements. I felt I was getting a bit too close to arousal level 8(ByggD’s scale) so I paused a bit. Continued making a cup with my hand and I think I might have caught a glimpse of the plateau phase. Was doing quite intense circular motions on my glans. It felt great, heart rate went up, but still in control.

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Day 10(November 21st 2014): …Crappy day…so much distractions. I’m moving in 6 months,but this is starting to get on my nerves. After 6 mins wasn’t able to get erect during edging. Then I did a slight mistake…
Watched and edged for 2mins to a porn video called Present Moment on xHamster. It’s an erotic video but I wanted to avoid those kinds of things as much as possible. After 2 mins, I felt I was creeping onto level 9 on the arousal scale. I was quite erect. Set the video aside then tried to do it the normal way. Normally I feel nothing, but this I actually had to pause before blowing it. Then I proceeded to tiptoe around PONR a bit, before declaring this night a failure and stopping.

Observations: Not much to observe though. Took some videos of my IKs in order to see what the current interval is and be able to gauge progress better. After watching the erotic video, IKs were through the roof. They were at about 2-3 per secs. It was pulsating so much I could feel a slight tugging sensation.

PS: Is edging to porn for 2 mins, a big accomplishment? I want to feel like I’ve gained something from this at least lol. Already hard enough to find peace for edging, won’t be able to find peace for 3day routine so I’ll set it aside for now. No problem though, I’m planning on curing PremE in at least 1 year(or +) so I’ll have to do it somewhere down the road

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1 year? I think sooner if you committ.
Porn is going to do that, especially since you haven't been watching it, it would be better to gradually bring back stuff like audio, pics, pics with audio, then vids. But you shouldn't have stopped edging, I think if you had of kept going, minimal doesn't matter, for as long as possible then stopped and left it til later or tomorrow, it would ot been a good step.
So next time maybe use some pics, or whatever, and don't let quik ponr/ ik's get to you.

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There are members (at least that is what I remember) that made an excellent progress with edging with porn. The problem is the mindset, and the mindset of one who edges versus the mindset of one who masturbates is different in relation to porn, granted people that have big problem with porn will still have it almost regardless but with the edging mindset you are viewing porn as a tool to help you rather as just a satisfaction or a means to an end.

When you masturbate you don't give much care or attention to the pace, you don't observe yourself etc, you just do it till you ejaculate. With edging you are always (or should be) conscious of your state of arousal, or the tempo, of the movement of your pelvic floor, the breath, you notice how a particular sound makes you more aroused etc. Form the outside it looks almost the same, from the inside it is a totally different thing, at least for me.

Sometime it is hard to put one self in a good mindset when you are stressed out and must think about other things, this is where porn is a good tool since it allows you to focus on edging. Sometimes when I am stressed out but desire to masturbate or edge since I know that that will relieve me of stress I just watch porn let the erection come from just watching, edge/masturbate to porn to one point to where I feel that I got sufficient arousal and then I just don't pay much attention to porn as much as I start to pay attention to my own sensations and pleasure, but still benefiting from an audio and few glances now and then at the video.

The most important thing that everybody who watches porn need to learn is not to allow the tempo of porn to be your own tempo if you can handle it (especially when the tempo of porn is fast) more often than not premature ejaculation happens because a user tires to measure up somewhat unconsciously to the tempo of the person in the video.

Once you are able to hold your own tempo regardless of the tempo of the video you effectively are disassociating yourself from the video and its effects on you lessen. The same can be said with sex and when your partner demands that you increase the pace rather than allowing you to set your own pace.

This also goes for the videos that usually last short and there is ejaculation at the end, since in a way you are training yourself to last less since you try to match the tempo of the porn, same goes for skipping parts of the video especially once the foreplay finishes.

Viewed with the right mindset (like the one above) porn can be a great training tool. Edging with porn can point out many problems if one is able to pay attention and actually think about porn in relation to masturbation further than just the fact that it makes you ejaculate fast. It pays out looking into why exactly it makes you ejaculate faster rather than just avoiding the problem.

The other thing porn can train is attention, if you are able to keep the attention on yourself and your own sensations while watching it is a benchmark of your own control.

The benefit of shifting the attention to yourself after getting high enough arousal and pleasure is that porn will not become boring fast because you are not overloading yourself with it and effectively make yourself dulled.

Not to mention that the position you edge when you are watching porn plays a huge role since while sitting you apply a decent amount of pressure on the pelvic floor, so rather than that position try to assume one that you would during sex.

Also remove all clothes if you can, the spread of the arousal is often limited by clothing since most of the time when we are in clothing we have at least some areas that are under tension, especially in the shoulder area.

Granted long term use of porn will give problems, especially frequent porn, but using it from time to time with the right mindset can be beneficial as well.

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1 year? I think sooner if you committ.
Porn is going to do that, especially since you haven't been watching it, it would be better to gradually bring back stuff like audio, pics, pics with audio, then vids. But you shouldn't have stopped edging, I think if you had of kept going, minimal doesn't matter, for as long as possible then stopped and left it til later or tomorrow, it would ot been a good step.
So next time maybe use some pics, or whatever, and don't let quik ponr/ ik's get to you.

Now that I'm calm, I realize I already knew about the progressive build-up of stimulating material. For now ,I'll only stick to pictures if such a situation happens again

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There are members (at least that is what I remember) that made an excellent progress with edging with porn. The problem is the mindset, and the mindset of one who edges versus the mindset of one who masturbates is different in relation to porn, granted people that have big problem with porn will still have it almost regardless but with the edging mindset you are viewing porn as a tool to help you rather as just a satisfaction or a means to an end.

Kinda like how venom is used to make anti-venom. I could do it somewhere down the road, but I was too hasty and went straight to videos.

When you masturbate you don't give much care or attention to the pace, you don't observe yourself etc, you just do it till you ejaculate. With edging you are always (or should be) conscious of your state of arousal, or the tempo, of the movement of your pelvic floor, the breath, you notice how a particular sound makes you more aroused etc. Form the outside it looks almost the same, from the inside it is a totally different thing, at least for me.

Definitely. Never lasted 15mins of constant masturbation. The only time I pause during edging is to observe my IKs and try some postion to do RKs in.

Sometime it is hard to put one self in a good mindset when you are stressed out and must think about other things, this is where porn is a good tool since it allows you to focus on edging. Sometimes when I am stressed out but desire to masturbate or edge since I know that that will relieve me of stress I just watch porn let the erection come from just watching, edge/masturbate to porn to one point to where I feel that I got sufficient arousal and then I just don't pay much attention to porn as much as I start to pay attention to my own sensations and pleasure, but still benefiting from an audio and few glances now and then at the video.

Eventually,I'll need to face more arousing stuff than my blank mind. I'll keep this in mind when I start using videos.

The most important thing that everybody who watches porn need to learn is not to allow the tempo of porn to be your own tempo if you can handle it (especially when the tempo of porn is fast) more often than not premature ejaculation happens because a user tires to measure up somewhat unconsciously to the tempo of the person in the video.

Once you are able to hold your own tempo regardless of the tempo of the video you effectively are disassociating yourself from the video and its effects on you lessen. The same can be said with sex and when your partner demands that you increase the pace rather than allowing you to set your own pace.

Hahaha,now that I read this I can definitely see myself. I remember watching Squirting videos and skipping directly to the part where she gushes. I blew it at that exact moment too.

This also goes for the videos that usually last short and there is ejaculation at the end, since in a way you are training yourself to last less since you try to match the tempo of the porn, same goes for skipping parts of the video especially once the foreplay finishes.

Viewed with the right mindset (like the one above) porn can be a great training tool. Edging with porn can point out many problems if one is able to pay attention and actually think about porn in relation to masturbation further than just the fact that it makes you ejaculate fast. It pays out looking into why exactly it makes you ejaculate faster rather than just avoiding the problem.

TBH,I don't think I have an arousal problem. My mind stays clear even when having sex. But during the 2 mins of porn I watched, I was having so much IKs that I could feel a throbbing/tugging sensation on my penis. This probably adds a ton of pelvic pressure. That combined with the fact that you masturbate while sitting(even more pelvic pressure) and a stroking stroking speed. Those are probably the reasons why I used to ejaculate to porn after less than 20 secs of constant stroking.

The other thing porn can train is attention, if you are able to keep the attention on yourself and your own sensations while watching it is a benchmark of your own control.

The benefit of shifting the attention to yourself after getting high enough arousal and pleasure is that porn will not become boring fast because you are not overloading yourself with it and effectively make yourself dulled.

Not to mention that the position you edge when you are watching porn plays a huge role since while sitting you apply a decent amount of pressure on the pelvic floor, so rather than that position try to assume one that you would during sex.

Indeed. I can only edge while standing/kneeling anyway lol

Granted long term use of porn will give problems, especially frequent porn, but using it from time to time with the right mindset can be beneficial as well.

Once every 2 weeks should be fine.

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Day 11(November 22^nd 2014): Didn’t edge today. Instead, I went for the source of edging which is…
PS: I only do MM’s DO routine during the week. Should I do it on week-ends?

Observations: Sex. Using a site, I found an interesting offer. 100$/h, 2 orgasms. I called the girl and went there. Even when I was inside her home, I was still pretty calm (when I compare it to some other times). I go inside the room and found she was already getting undressed. She asks for the money. I give it and start undressing, already rock hard before anything started. Once we were done, I got on the bed, and she started giving me a blowjob. No problem with blowjobs, 90% of the time, I can last a good while. I sucked her nipples a bit while caressing her. After I was done fooling around, she brought out the condoms and there starts the trouble…

She puts it on my penis and guides me to her hole. I enter her and start thrusting at a SLOW pace. Within 30 secs, I could feel myself creeping into level 9 on ByggD’s scale. I stop and hug her, hoping it would go down to 7. I resume thrusting for a bit and…blew it. Now this didn’t really affect me since I was telling myself: “Meh, the 2^nd round is the REAL DEAL. Time for me to get serious…MWAHAHAHAH!!!” I go throw the first condom in the toilet and come back to her room. She readies the 2^nd one, cleans me (nice one lady) and puts it on. I go inside her again and this time, I’m pounding like a madmen. I go insane, I’m sweating, I’m lasting, I’m a SEX GOD!...or so I thought. After what seems to be forever, I’m starting to wonder….when will I ejaculate? It seems I forgot one important detail…I was only semi-erect. I wasted all that energy pounding with a semi-erect penis. She informs me that I’m not hard. She lifts herself and starts sucking me again until I get like a 60% hard penis. I resume the mad pounding and find myself…stopping because glans is still too sensitive and also some turtling. She sucks me again and asks if I want to do doggy style.

I say sure, let’s see what it does. Now she had a nice big ass. Resumed mad pounding. I could actually feel myself slowly going towards orgasm and this time…my very own mind is in my way.
For some reason, I went from slowly creeping to zero feeling. Went at it again. Slowly creeping, zero feeling. Turtling on top of it. At this point I was about to say: “Let’s call it quits, I’m obviously still in my recovery phase.” I removed the condom and was about to say that, but it seems she understood something else. Here, she’s taking my penis and trying to guide it. Obviously I was reluctant, but that reluctance faded away quite quickly.

I went raw with an escort.

Shit, it was too late. Oh well might as well see how it feels. Even with a sore penis, I could tell it was the real deal. Started thrusting like a mad man again. Don’t know if she was acting but her reaction was different. She was rubbing her clit and at some point she prevented me from entering. She didn’t want me to cum inside her. My time was almost up, so I just decided to beat it over her. After some vigorous stroking, I was finally able to ejaculate.


Cleaned my face, got dressed and went out. Sent her a text, asking if she was safe (facewall). She said: “Yes of course”. As if she was going to tell me: “Grats bro, you got AIDS. YOLO SWAG” I don’t worry about it too much. Whatever happens, happens. I’ll just become a monk or something and pledge lifelong abstinence.

Phew, my longest post yet. No worries, tomorrow is a normal edging day. I’ll pray my lucky star and hope I caught nothing.

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Nnnnnnnooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
I've never been with an escort but you always keep it wrapped man. You don't want to be making all this progress just to have your dick fall off. Bl
But it will probably be fine, nothing to worry about. Keep it wrapped in future though.

"She readies the 2nd one, cleans me (nice lady)" fucking quote of the month.