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  • As of right now I have given up, it just feels futile.

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    • Before you lose all of that conditioning, maybe you could try hanging with ther phallosan twice a day, wearing it as much as possible? It might work better for amount if hours you're putting it.

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      • I started wearing it again today, my hopelessness and despair has worn off a bit. I really want to have a bigger penis, but I have my qualms with the device. I can only wear it outside with loose clothing, which eliminates most of my jeans. Also, it doesn't always stay consistent with the pull. If I walk around or just move seats, the force may well have changed from yellow/high-green to low green. Moreover, I want to start looking for work which means that I will have less available hours to wear it. As of right now, I want to keep some of the conditioning and eventually get the plus so I can wear it at night. Hopefully it's comfortable and won't disrupt my sleep. As to hanging, with my time limited from work, it seems like a good option as you only need 1-2 hours. That, in conjunction with the plus at night seems like a good set-up. But I don't know if I can modify my phallosan for hanging and still be able to wear it as an extender. Do you know about this Ray? I might need to look at Datawonk's set-up again. Thanks for being here and encouraging me

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        • You can modify it to hang and still be able to use it as an ADS. Take your time building up weights. Look at end of the year goals, not anything in the near future. It'll keep you from injuring yourself. Datawonk likely could've gotten better gains but he injured himself numerous times.

          I wouldn't wear a vacuum anything while sleeping, unless you're willing to wake up every hour or two and make sure you aren't getting blisters or whatnot. I know other people do it, but I just don't think it's worth the risk.

          Don't worry about the level changing. Wearing it with any tension is more important than not wearing it because it won't be at the right level. I don't ever plan to wear it in the yellow, but I'll sometimes get near it. Sometimes it'll be low green or probably even before that. I've experimented with where to wear it around my hips so that it doesn't fluctuate as much, but I don't always get it right. I kinda feel for it here and there to check the tension and see if it's sorta where it should be. If it isn't, I fix it by either repositioning my body (crossing my legs or whatever) or I just deal with it and wait until I can fix it when I can.

          I wear slim cut jeans more often than not. The way the fabric is, you can easily see the outline of my wallet, phone, etc. My dick makes a clear outline if I'm not wearing underwear. That said, I wear phallosan out in public all of the time. With my t-shirt untucked, no one can see shit. That's commando. If I wear boxer briefs, it compresses everything enough that it makes it fairly unnoticeable even to myself. Just in case, I put my wallet and phone in the pocket that the phallosan is going towards.

          Really, don't be concerned about people noticing. I'm in public for at least 5 hours a day. I've never seen anyone even stare at it. When I was doing unregimented PE for a few weeks before I started phallosan, I was stretched out. I was probably 5 inches flaccid while wearing a girth band. I saw people stare then, and I wasn't looking to see if they were. Never with the phallosan, and I've been looking to see if they were.

          After peeing, I hang first thing in the morning. Before I started hanging, I'd go immediately into the phallosan. I only take it off to use the bathroom. If you look at my log, every day I'm probably underestimating the time I wore it. I run a timer, and add 15 to 30 minutes everyday for taking off the phallosan. So if my log says 12 hours, I wore it 15 to 30 minutes longer. Some days, I take it off when the timer says I can.

          Point is, I'm making sure to always get in the time. Amount of hours is the most important thing. It's blistering hot where I am and the silicone isn't the most comfortable in the heat. But here I am. And I'll keep with it through summer. It'll be worth it. And it's only one summer. I'm slimming down and working on my core by doing yoga at home. I'll be wearing phallosan throughout it as well. I want to run and go to actual yoga classes, but I can't do those things and wear a phallosan (or safely wear it). I'm doing what I can to keep to my goals. I'm taking concessions to go at it hard, but safely. Whenever I can back off the phallosan, I'll work it around my life instead of working my life around it.

          I know all of that was a long rant. But I'm kinda just putting things out there. I'd hate to see you quit and not make the gains you want. You already have so many hours invested. Upping your game, even if just including hanging, should do it. But not worrying about what others see might help you get more hours in. You know what you're wearing, others don't. You can get the time in even if you get a job. You can do this

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          • Completed: 9 hours
            Total wear time: 580 hours

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            • Completed: 8 hours
              Total wear time: 588 hours

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              • Hey Ray, thanks for the message. Despite your perception of it being a "rant", it was reassuring in many aspects. I learned that I shouldn't worry too much if the force has moved to lower green, the most important thing is that I'm wearing it. Moreover, it's good that I will still be able to use it as an ADS after the modification to a hanger. However, I'm quite a bit overweight and I don't think I would be able to wear the device with my current slim jeans. There would simply be too much pressure on the bell seeing as I have broad hips. Despite your warnings of wearing the extender at night, I remain interested in trying it out. I don't see much harm in doing it, the phallosan seems to be quite gentle even if I experience the occasional discomfort.

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                • I'm glad you're keeping with it. I've been experimenting with the belt a lot the past few days. I'm sure positioning is different for everyone, but I found that making the belt tighter than needed, and then finding the best position, makes it so the belt doesn't fluctuate nearly as much. I make it tight enough that it goes past the tension I want it, then stretch the elastic so it is roughly where I want it. I only test standing and sitting. Laying down is always wrong, and I don't really lay down unless I'm at home. This is what works for me, but I'm skinny fat.

                  Have you started hanging yet? I'm sure all you need is water bottles and some wire, maybe duct tape

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                  • Try reinforcing the springs with rubber band to get greater tension and not stress the springs as much. Makes the tension bars useless but you’ll get a better tug and a longer life out of it. Ever open a Bic click pen? Same springs, gonna fail sooner or later.
                    A prayer, is kinda the same as a "Like". If there are enough likes, God will take notice. So "Like" away please. My daughter needs your prayers. Thank You.

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                    • Completed: 8 hours
                      Total wear time: 596 hours

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                      • Completed: 9 hours
                        Total wear time: 605 hours

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                        • You are really stacking up the hours. I am not even past a 1000 hours, and i been doing it for 15 months now
                          Nice going rate - you must feel it tirering you out, and giving you the gains
                          Starting ADS januar 2018 at 5.3 BPEL and 5.3 EG
                          Current and still (end of 2020) at 7.1 BPEL and 6.1 EG
                          Goal 7.5 BPEL and 5.9 EG

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                          • 2 days ago: 4 hours
                            Yesterday: 0 hours
                            Today: 11 hours
                            Total wear time: 620 hours

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                            • Hey Ray, sorry for the late reply. I purchased fishing wire and weights a year back but I never got around to modifying the phallosan with it. Once I feel ready to start hanging, I'm going to look at Datawonk's set-up and try to imitate it with my equipement.

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                              • Originally posted by Ehhhm View Post
                                You are really stacking up the hours. I am not even past a 1000 hours, and i been doing it for 15 months now
                                Nice going rate - you must feel it tirering you out, and giving you the gains
                                I'm not sure about the gains Ehhhm, but I'm determined to having a bigger penis so I'll keep going for now.

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