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  • UPDATE:

    OK guys.So after a LOT of reading and studying i managed to see MY LIMITATION of not gaining this month and i'm glad i found it in a Progress Log [Credit:irheretogrow] - - > Thanx mate

    READ THIS FIRST:
    https://www.pegym.com/forums/pe-theo...explained.html

    - Now that you have finished reading it,i had been doing the following:

    1) I had been doing my PE routine with an Erect State = 70-80% approximately
    2) I had been focusing on BOTH smooth muscle & the Tunica
    (and)
    3) I had been doing an exercising routine that was focused on 60% (length) - 40% (girth) !!!!

    __________________________________________________ _______________

    As you guys noticed there will some changes in my ROUTINE:

    Routine: (JP's 90 Day Beginner Routine)

    During The Session:
    ~ 10 mins Warm Up

    ~ 5-10 mins Basic JP Stretching
    (includes: Helicopter Snakes,25 Quick Kegels each direction & Circle Stretches) Length
    ~ 10 mins Wet Jelqing
    Length(40 - 50 % Erect State)
    ~ 6 mins V-Jelqing
    Length(40 - 50 % Erect State)
    ~ 8 mins Warm Down
    (+)
    ~ Erect Kegels
    (50-100 reps/ 3 secs hold)
    (+)
    ~ Edging (10-15 mins) - - > [Mainly for control]

    During The Day:
    ~ JAI stretches [Maybe]
    ~ Bed Fowfers [
    Maybe for healing]

    NOTE:
    I got rid of the Flaccid Bend & the Towel Raises (i can safely say that Kegels are much better)

    IN ADDITION I WILL:

    1) Be using a Softer Grip (LESS STRENGTH=GREAT RESULTS + GREAT PI'S!!!!)
    2) Focus on the Tunica (since i have an EQ=8,5-9 and my BPFSL is pretty much equal with my BPEL)
    3) Update my routine from a 60% - 40% (length - girth) to a 90% - 10 % / 80% - 20%
    4) Concentrate on my PIs as well (as far as I can)

    So in other words.....that's all folks!
    I also wanna thank WANTHIS for convincing me to measure myself and see if my current routine was working....and unfortunatly it WASN'T! and good thing i changed it,cuz from the likes of it my penis isn't conditioned yet for such intense exercises!
    Sorry for the long paragraph....

    Have a nice weekend fellows and Peace Out,
    Freaky
    Freaky
    Senior Member
    Last edited by Freaky; 05-06-2011, 02:33 PM.
    "The greatest deception men suffer is from their own opinions" - Leonardo da Vinci
    Progress Log: https://www.pegym.com/forums/progres...-progress.html

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    • Pretty good example of why more-is-better is bad, especially in the beginning, I hope you learned your lesson and you'll move on, wish me luck in 3 days.
      Start(Feb/19)
      FL: 2,95
      FG: 4,29
      BPEL: 5,51
      MSEG: 5,11
      Current(July/30)
      FL: 3,50
      FG: 4,52
      BPEL: 6,02
      MSEG: 5,35

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      • Originally posted by irheretogrow View Post
        Pretty good example of why more-is-better is bad, especially in the beginning, I hope you learned your lesson and you'll move on, wish me luck in 3 days.
        Hahah...you said it mate...and GOOD LUCK...and DON'T be frustrated if you haven't gained anything...it's still your 2nd month

        Cheers
        "The greatest deception men suffer is from their own opinions" - Leonardo da Vinci
        Progress Log: https://www.pegym.com/forums/progres...-progress.html

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        • DAY: 63

          OFF Day

          Post Comment:
          I want to get the best of today and rest so that i can return tomorrow with more "power"!

          That's all for now guys ^^
          "The greatest deception men suffer is from their own opinions" - Leonardo da Vinci
          Progress Log: https://www.pegym.com/forums/progres...-progress.html

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          • I'm glad you figured out what to do. The thing is, as soon as you find a routine that's working in anyway, you'll know right away within a day or two. Your flaccid hang should improve and all your other P.Is should improve as well. I didn't know this till I started my new routine. But as soon as you see you P.Is drop with the routine that it has been amazing with, you should know that somehow it got overworked. Just take a day or two off after that and you should be fine.
            Starting (january 05, 2011):
            BPEL: ~5.5?" X 4.25"?
            Current:
            BPEL: 6.5"X 4.5"
            My Log

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            • After a while you will be in fine tuned with your body and PE. At this stage you would know what works for you and what is too much for you. I'm still confused about the TGC Theroy I really don't know what is my limiting factor since. Maybe I need to read up on it again. Good Luck on your revised routine FREAKY!!

              I honestly believe that when someone is really in tuned with thier body and PE. They will gain much faster. I just wanted to say that. GOOD LUCK!! Buddy!

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              • Originally posted by Danner View Post
                After a while you will be in fine tuned with your body and PE. At this stage you would know what works for you and what is too much for you. I'm still confused about the TGC Theroy I really don't know what is my limiting factor since. Maybe I need to read up on it again. Good Luck on your revised routine FREAKY!!

                I honestly believe that when someone is really in tuned with thier body and PE. They will gain much faster. I just wanted to say that. GOOD LUCK!! Buddy!
                Thanx bro...and i just hope that i won't need to change my routine again until i finish
                Cheers and many thanx again!
                "The greatest deception men suffer is from their own opinions" - Leonardo da Vinci
                Progress Log: https://www.pegym.com/forums/progres...-progress.html

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                • Originally posted by wanthis View Post
                  I'm glad you figured out what to do. The thing is, as soon as you find a routine that's working in anyway, you'll know right away within a day or two. Your flaccid hang should improve and all your other P.Is should improve as well. I didn't know this till I started my new routine. But as soon as you see you P.Is drop with the routine that it has been amazing with, you should know that somehow it got overworked. Just take a day or two off after that and you should be fine.
                  Thanx bud...and i will take a couple of full days off to rest my unit after my routine!
                  And let us hope that everything will go fine!
                  I'm so worked today that i will do my routine that I SHOULD HAVE DONE! (Yaaay!!) Heh
                  "The greatest deception men suffer is from their own opinions" - Leonardo da Vinci
                  Progress Log: https://www.pegym.com/forums/progres...-progress.html

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                  • DAY: 64 (8th Week)

                    Routine: (JP's 90 Day Beginner Routine)

                    During The Session:
                    ~ 10 mins Warm Up
                    []
                    ~ 5-10 mins Basic JP Stretching(includes: Helicopter Snakes,25 Quick Kegels each direction & Circle Stretches)[]
                    ~ 10 mins Wet Jelqing[]
                    ~ 6 mins V-Jelqing []
                    ~ 8 mins Warm Down []
                    (+)
                    ~ Erect Kegels
                    (50 reps/ 3 secs hold) []

                    During The Day:
                    ~ JAI stretches [X]
                    ~ Bed Fowfers
                    [X]
                    ~ Edging (10-15 mins) [X]

                    HEALTHY BODY CLUES

                    1 STRONGER ERECTIONS- Same
                    2 WAKING UP WITH MORNING WOOD- Not much of a morning wood (Erection State: 30-40%)
                    3 BIGGER FLACCID SIZE- Same
                    4 GOOD FLACCID ELASTICITY ( A PENIS THAT IS EASIER TO STRETCH, NOT STIFF)- Yes
                    5 FATIGUE ALONG THE PENIS( SIMILAR TO POST-GYM MUSCLE FATIGUE, NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH NUMBNESS)- Yes
                    6 TEMPORARY INCREASE IN SIZE AFTER A WORKOUT.- A litlle
                    7 INCREASE IN GROWTH- Yes
                    8 INCREASE IN HORNINESS- Indeed

                    UNHEALTHY BODY CLUES

                    1. WEAKER ERECTIONS- No
                    2. LESS FREQUENT ERECTIONS THROUGHOUT THE NIGHT- Yes
                    3 ABSENCE OF '' MORNING WOOD''- Yes
                    4 SMALLER FLACCID SIZE- A little
                    5 LESS FLACCID ELASTICITY ( A PENIS THAT IS LESS EASIER TO STRETCH, STIFF)- No
                    6 LACK OF SENSATION OR NUMBNESS- No
                    7 BRUISING- I saw a red dot (small one) but then it dissapeared...meaning NO!
                    8 PAIN- No
                    9 TEMPORARY DECREASE IN SIZE- Slightly
                    10 DECREASE IN AROUSAL- 50%-50%

                    ADDITIONAL INFO:
                    - ERECT STATE ( DURING SESSION ) - min:35%,max:60%

                    Post Comment:
                    Renewed and ready to rock the world! hahah (sry guys motivational instincts)
                    Soo,today i wasn't EVEN interrupted ONCE (yaay) Also my morning wood wasn't so strong but it WAS a morning wood still.What's more is that i had a softer grip in combination with an 50% erect state during my session! HA and that's what i have been looking for
                    Btw,today during my ERECT KEGELS which i managed to do 50 reps/3 sec hold i came at the end BUT i hold it in by grabbing my base of the shaft and not releasing even a drop.

                    QUESTION:"Is it ok to hold it in during a session?And will it affect my gains?"
                    Thank youuu

                    Freaky
                    "The greatest deception men suffer is from their own opinions" - Leonardo da Vinci
                    Progress Log: https://www.pegym.com/forums/progres...-progress.html

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                    • DAY: 65

                      Routine: (JP's 90 Day Beginner Routine)

                      During The Session:
                      ~ 10 mins Warm Up
                      []
                      ~ 5-10 mins Basic JP Stretching(includes: Helicopter Snakes,25 Quick Kegels each direction & Circle Stretches)[]
                      ~ 10 mins Wet Jelqing[]
                      ~ 6 mins V-Jelqing []
                      ~ 8 mins Warm Down []
                      (+)
                      ~ Erect Kegels
                      (80 reps/ 3 secs hold) []

                      During The Day:
                      ~ JAI stretches [X]
                      ~ Bed Fowfers
                      [X]
                      ~ Edging (10-15 mins) [X]

                      HEALTHY BODY CLUES

                      1 STRONGER ERECTIONS- Same
                      2 WAKING UP WITH MORNING WOOD- Nope
                      3 BIGGER FLACCID SIZE- Same
                      4 GOOD FLACCID ELASTICITY ( A PENIS THAT IS EASIER TO STRETCH, NOT STIFF)- Yes
                      5 FATIGUE ALONG THE PENIS( SIMILAR TO POST-GYM MUSCLE FATIGUE, NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH NUMBNESS)- Yes
                      6 TEMPORARY INCREASE IN SIZE AFTER A WORKOUT.- A litlle
                      7 INCREASE IN GROWTH- Yes
                      8 INCREASE IN HORNINESS- DAMN STRAIGHT!

                      UNHEALTHY BODY CLUES

                      1. WEAKER ERECTIONS- No
                      2. LESS FREQUENT ERECTIONS THROUGHOUT THE NIGHT- Yes
                      3 ABSENCE OF '' MORNING WOOD''- Yes
                      4 SMALLER FLACCID SIZE- A little
                      5 LESS FLACCID ELASTICITY ( A PENIS THAT IS LESS EASIER TO STRETCH, STIFF)- No
                      6 LACK OF SENSATION OR NUMBNESS- No
                      7 BRUISING- No
                      8 PAIN- No
                      9 TEMPORARY DECREASE IN SIZE- Slightly
                      10 DECREASE IN AROUSAL- Slightly

                      ADDITIONAL INFO:
                      - ERECT STATE ( DURING SESSION ) :
                      1) Stretching: 0%
                      2) Wet Jelqing: min:35%,max:60%
                      3) V-Jelqing: min:40%,max:65%

                      Post Comment:
                      Tried to keep my Erect State as low as i could and i managed to
                      No morning wood today (idk why)
                      Managed to do 80 Erect Kegels without even wanting to cum (yaaay hahah)
                      All in all...everything went fine today

                      regards,
                      Freaky
                      "The greatest deception men suffer is from their own opinions" - Leonardo da Vinci
                      Progress Log: https://www.pegym.com/forums/progres...-progress.html

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                      • DAY: 66

                        Routine: (JP's 90 Day Beginner Routine)

                        During The Session:
                        ~ 10 mins Warm Up
                        []
                        ~ 5-10 mins Basic JP Stretching(includes: Helicopter Snakes,25 Quick Kegels each direction & Circle Stretches)[]
                        ~ 10 mins Wet Jelqing[]
                        ~ 6 mins V-Jelqing []
                        ~ 8 mins Warm Down []
                        (+)
                        ~ Erect Kegels
                        [X]

                        During The Day:
                        ~ JAI stretches [X]
                        ~ Bed Fowfers
                        [X]
                        ~ Edging (10-15 mins) [X]

                        HEALTHY BODY CLUES

                        1 STRONGER ERECTIONS- Same
                        2 WAKING UP WITH MORNING WOOD- Nope
                        3 BIGGER FLACCID SIZE- Same
                        4 GOOD FLACCID ELASTICITY ( A PENIS THAT IS EASIER TO STRETCH, NOT STIFF)- Yes
                        5 FATIGUE ALONG THE PENIS( SIMILAR TO POST-GYM MUSCLE FATIGUE, NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH NUMBNESS)- Yes
                        6 TEMPORARY INCREASE IN SIZE AFTER A WORKOUT.- A litlle
                        7 INCREASE IN GROWTH- Yes
                        8 INCREASE IN HORNINESS- DAMN STRAIGHT!

                        UNHEALTHY BODY CLUES

                        1. WEAKER ERECTIONS- No
                        2. LESS FREQUENT ERECTIONS THROUGHOUT THE NIGHT- Yes
                        3 ABSENCE OF '' MORNING WOOD''- Yes
                        4 SMALLER FLACCID SIZE- A little
                        5 LESS FLACCID ELASTICITY ( A PENIS THAT IS LESS EASIER TO STRETCH, STIFF)- No
                        6 LACK OF SENSATION OR NUMBNESS- No
                        7 BRUISING- No
                        8 PAIN- No
                        9 TEMPORARY DECREASE IN SIZE- Slightly
                        10 DECREASE IN AROUSAL- Slightly

                        ADDITIONAL INFO:
                        - ERECT STATE ( DURING SESSION ) :
                        1) Stretching: 0%
                        2) Wet Jelqing: min:35%,max:60%
                        3) V-Jelqing: min:40%,max:65%

                        Post Comment:
                        According to my memory,today i didn't managed to do Erect kegels due to the lack of time and privacy i had at home
                        But i had very positive PIs and i was able to have the erect state that i wanted during my session
                        SO it's all good...but i'm SOOOOOO stressed about my Exams dammit -.-

                        Sorry guys...not much to say,really scared and can't remember much due to a lot of studying,
                        Freaky
                        "The greatest deception men suffer is from their own opinions" - Leonardo da Vinci
                        Progress Log: https://www.pegym.com/forums/progres...-progress.html

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                        • Good luck with the exams mate.
                          Visit my log!

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                          • Originally posted by Johnny Butt View Post
                            Good luck with the exams mate.
                            Thanx a lot bro!!!
                            "The greatest deception men suffer is from their own opinions" - Leonardo da Vinci
                            Progress Log: https://www.pegym.com/forums/progres...-progress.html

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                            • DAY: 67

                              Routine: (JP's 90 Day Beginner Routine)

                              During The Session:
                              ~ 10 mins Warm Up
                              []
                              ~ 5-10 mins Basic JP Stretching(includes: Helicopter Snakes,25 Quick Kegels each direction & Circle Stretches)[]
                              ~ 10 mins Wet Jelqing[]
                              ~ 6 mins V-Jelqing []
                              ~ 8 mins Warm Down []
                              (+)
                              ~ Erect Kegels (50 reps/3 secs hold)
                              []

                              During The Day:
                              ~ JAI stretches [X]
                              ~ Bed Fowfers
                              [X]
                              ~ Edging (10-15 mins) [X]

                              HEALTHY BODY CLUES

                              1 STRONGER ERECTIONS- Same
                              2 WAKING UP WITH MORNING WOOD- Nope
                              3 BIGGER FLACCID SIZE- Same
                              4 GOOD FLACCID ELASTICITY ( A PENIS THAT IS EASIER TO STRETCH, NOT STIFF)- Yes
                              5 FATIGUE ALONG THE PENIS( SIMILAR TO POST-GYM MUSCLE FATIGUE, NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH NUMBNESS)- Yes
                              6 TEMPORARY INCREASE IN SIZE AFTER A WORKOUT.- A litlle
                              7 INCREASE IN GROWTH- Yes
                              8 INCREASE IN HORNINESS- DAMN STRAIGHT!

                              UNHEALTHY BODY CLUES

                              1. WEAKER ERECTIONS- No
                              2. LESS FREQUENT ERECTIONS THROUGHOUT THE NIGHT- Yes
                              3 ABSENCE OF '' MORNING WOOD''- Yes
                              4 SMALLER FLACCID SIZE- A little
                              5 LESS FLACCID ELASTICITY ( A PENIS THAT IS LESS EASIER TO STRETCH, STIFF)- No
                              6 LACK OF SENSATION OR NUMBNESS- No
                              7 BRUISING- No
                              8 PAIN- No
                              9 TEMPORARY DECREASE IN SIZE- Slightly
                              10 DECREASE IN AROUSAL- Slightly

                              ADDITIONAL INFO:
                              - ERECT STATE ( DURING SESSION ) :
                              1) Stretching: 0%
                              2) Wet Jelqing: min:35%,max:60%
                              3) V-Jelqing: min:40%,max:65%

                              Post Comment:
                              Yes I managed to do Erect kegels today but not as much as I wanted...anyhow,tomorrow is my Exam and i'm again stressed :/
                              Anyhow...today's workout was awesome and very nice & enjoyable

                              Freaky
                              "The greatest deception men suffer is from their own opinions" - Leonardo da Vinci
                              Progress Log: https://www.pegym.com/forums/progres...-progress.html

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                              • DAY: 68

                                Routine: (JP's 90 Day Beginner Routine)

                                During The Session:
                                ~ 10 mins Warm Up
                                []
                                ~ 5-10 mins Basic JP Stretching(includes: Helicopter Snakes,25 Quick Kegels each direction & Circle Stretches)[]
                                ~ 10 mins Wet Jelqing[]
                                ~ 6 mins V-Jelqing []
                                ~ 8 mins Warm Down []
                                (+)
                                ~ Erect Kegels (60 reps/3 sec hold)
                                []

                                During The Day:
                                ~ JAI stretches [X]
                                ~ Bed Fowfers
                                [X]
                                ~ Edging (10-15 mins) [X]

                                HEALTHY BODY CLUES

                                1 STRONGER ERECTIONS- Same
                                2 WAKING UP WITH MORNING WOOD- Nope
                                3 BIGGER FLACCID SIZE- Same
                                4 GOOD FLACCID ELASTICITY ( A PENIS THAT IS EASIER TO STRETCH, NOT STIFF)- Yes
                                5 FATIGUE ALONG THE PENIS( SIMILAR TO POST-GYM MUSCLE FATIGUE, NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH NUMBNESS)- Yes
                                6 TEMPORARY INCREASE IN SIZE AFTER A WORKOUT.- A litlle
                                7 INCREASE IN GROWTH- Yes
                                8 INCREASE IN HORNINESS- DAMN STRAIGHT!

                                UNHEALTHY BODY CLUES

                                1. WEAKER ERECTIONS- No
                                2. LESS FREQUENT ERECTIONS THROUGHOUT THE NIGHT- Yes
                                3 ABSENCE OF '' MORNING WOOD''- Yes
                                4 SMALLER FLACCID SIZE- A little
                                5 LESS FLACCID ELASTICITY ( A PENIS THAT IS LESS EASIER TO STRETCH, STIFF)- No
                                6 LACK OF SENSATION OR NUMBNESS- No
                                7 BRUISING- No
                                8 PAIN- No
                                9 TEMPORARY DECREASE IN SIZE- Slightly
                                10 DECREASE IN AROUSAL- Slightly

                                ADDITIONAL INFO:
                                - ERECT STATE ( DURING SESSION ) :
                                1) Stretching: 0%
                                2) Wet Jelqing: min:30%,max:60%
                                3) V-Jelqing: min:30%,max:60%

                                Post Comment:
                                Did some great exercising today and my test went pretty good i suppose
                                But i'm kinda anxious about the next one which is Biology
                                Hope i'm lucky with it!
                                NO and i mean NO negative PIs since i did with the most suitable erect state i could ever ask hahah

                                Stay cool guys,
                                Freaky
                                "The greatest deception men suffer is from their own opinions" - Leonardo da Vinci
                                Progress Log: https://www.pegym.com/forums/progres...-progress.html

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