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  • #16
    GIRTH GAIN! I just measured 0.25 higher than I when I came back from my decon break. 4.75 EG midshaft. I credit the V-jelqs and Uli's. Making my way to a respectable dick. I was foolin around a bit and noticed I was looking pretty plump, got out my string and it didn't fit my 4.5 measurement. I hope it holds.

    Last night I did the standard workout with good warm up and cool down, think I did a little edging in the middle with additional heat.
    10/23/2017:
    NBPEL 5.55" + 0"
    BPEL, 6.16" + 0"
    BPFSL 6.5" + 0"
    BEG, 5" +0"
    MSEG, 4.5" +0"
    TSEG 4" +0"

    Short term goal (10/23/17): 6.75" BPFSL
    Ultimate goal: 7" NBPEL, 5.25" MSEG

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    • #17
      I am pretty sure the .25 EL length gain is not permanent. However, I can hit it. Worked out today for the first time in a few days, allowing some recovery. This summer my consistency must improve a lot. I think if I keep working with the L-arginine (working fantastic) and keep consistant with my jelqing i am going to see some great girth gains.

      I can see new veins forming like crazy, just going to keep building on them. I am very excited. Hoping the positive mind set along with a solid routine brings me girth and length. Somebody comment!
      10/23/2017:
      NBPEL 5.55" + 0"
      BPEL, 6.16" + 0"
      BPFSL 6.5" + 0"
      BEG, 5" +0"
      MSEG, 4.5" +0"
      TSEG 4" +0"

      Short term goal (10/23/17): 6.75" BPFSL
      Ultimate goal: 7" NBPEL, 5.25" MSEG

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      • #18
        I am looking quite large in front of the mirror. Gains are coming, I have so many new veins forming. I think the V-jelqs and Uli's are largely responsible for that.

        Right now my unit is very plump and feeling large. I v-stretched earlier and had a little wank before, now I feel great and can't wait to jelq. Feel this way just minutes off the bike.


        I am going to include a morning stretch session (v-stretch) and all directions, as well as skin stretching. They are both important for me... That girth I gained is sticking around.
        Kaskman
        Senior Member
        Last edited by Kaskman; 06-22-2009, 08:07 PM.
        10/23/2017:
        NBPEL 5.55" + 0"
        BPEL, 6.16" + 0"
        BPFSL 6.5" + 0"
        BEG, 5" +0"
        MSEG, 4.5" +0"
        TSEG 4" +0"

        Short term goal (10/23/17): 6.75" BPFSL
        Ultimate goal: 7" NBPEL, 5.25" MSEG

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        • #19
          I think I overworked it again. EQ took a hit so I'm postponing jelq work outs. I didn't gain anything, but I added tons of visible veins all around my unit, I think it's a good sign. I have got a new routine, I want to stress tunica work and lig stretching, with jelqing as needed for gains. Having read the TGC theory, I think the Tunica is my limiting factor, my BPFSL and BPEL are very similar, and my tunica is tight but not 9 or 10 EQ, I think because of girth work outs.

          Everyday:
          -I want to warm up(rice sock) with some light lig and skin stretching.
          -O-bends (just trying to really stretch my tunica)
          -Do this assisted A-stretch I found at thunders, I use a cylinder and stretch over it, it feels great for my ligs.
          -Warm down again.

          Back from Rest: Jelq routines
          -Warm up
          -Light stretches and kegels in all directions
          -OK grip jelqs (about fifty with one hand at base and other to jelq to stretch skin)
          -About 50 V-jelqs.
          -(on days I want to work girth, once or twice a week I'll do some Uli's and compression)

          I could really use some imput guys, I haven't gained in so long. When I did gain, I was doing memento's mementous gain mechanism at TP. I think the A stretch gave me length gains and the girth just filled in with it. I feel like I need some length for girth, I desperately want a quick half inch of both.
          10/23/2017:
          NBPEL 5.55" + 0"
          BPEL, 6.16" + 0"
          BPFSL 6.5" + 0"
          BEG, 5" +0"
          MSEG, 4.5" +0"
          TSEG 4" +0"

          Short term goal (10/23/17): 6.75" BPFSL
          Ultimate goal: 7" NBPEL, 5.25" MSEG

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Kaskman View Post
            I think I overworked it again. EQ took a hit so I'm postponing jelq work outs. I didn't gain anything, but I added tons of visible veins all around my unit, I think it's a good sign. I have got a new routine, I want to stress tunica work and lig stretching, with jelqing as needed for gains. Having read the TGC theory, I think the Tunica is my limiting factor, my BPFSL and BPEL are very similar, and my tunica is tight but not 9 or 10 EQ, I think because of girth work outs.

            Everyday:
            -I want to warm up(rice sock) with some light lig and skin stretching.
            -O-bends (just trying to really stretch my tunica)
            -Do this assisted A-stretch I found at thunders, I use a cylinder and stretch over it, it feels great for my ligs.
            -Warm down again.

            Back from Rest: Jelq routines
            -Warm up
            -Light stretches and kegels in all directions
            -OK grip jelqs (about fifty with one hand at base and other to jelq to stretch skin)
            -About 50 V-jelqs.
            -(on days I want to work girth, once or twice a week I'll do some Uli's and compression)

            I could really use some imput guys, I haven't gained in so long. When I did gain, I was doing memento's mementous gain mechanism at TP. I think the A stretch gave me length gains and the girth just filled in with it. I feel like I need some length for girth, I desperately want a quick half inch of both.

            So how big was your penis when you began and how big is it now?

            And how tight is the grip you use when jelqing?


            For I will restore health unto thee and I will heal thee of thine wounds, saith the Lord Jeremiah 30:17

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            • #21
              well i was reading your orginal post kaskman and me being a newbie to PE i dont know if my advice will help at all but i have done some heavy studying up on what other guys, who have seen large gains, and from they say is " why change a routine that is giving you gains" basically why change what works, that is until you stop seeing gains well anyway just thought i might put that out there because in your orginal post you said you changed your routine up a lot
              Started 8/4/09 BPEL 6 1/2'' BPFL 6 9/16'' EG 4 3/4''
              9/4/09 BPEL 6 3/4'' BPFL 6 13/16'' EG 5 1/8''
              10/4/09 BPEL 6 3/4'' BPFL 7'' EG 5 1/4''
              11/4/09 BPEL 6 15/16'' BPFL 7 1/8'' EG 5 1/4''
              12/04/09 BPEL 7 1/16'' BPFL 7 1/4'' EG 5 1/4''

              RESTART of PE
              1/10/14 BPEL 6.5'' EG 5''

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              • #22
                Originally posted by JohnSmith011 View Post
                well i was reading your orginal post kaskman and me being a newbie to PE i dont know if my advice will help at all but i have done some heavy studying up on what other guys, who have seen large gains, and from they say is " why change a routine that is giving you gains" basically why change what works, that is until you stop seeing gains well anyway just thought i might put that out there because in your orginal post you said you changed your routine up a lot
                Came back to read my log and before I got to your post I noticed the same thing... I have no gained in so long, and after my initial gains I figured I'd be doing better than I am now. The problem is I can't really remember what I did to get those gains. I think just very basic jelqing and some stretching.
                10/23/2017:
                NBPEL 5.55" + 0"
                BPEL, 6.16" + 0"
                BPFSL 6.5" + 0"
                BEG, 5" +0"
                MSEG, 4.5" +0"
                TSEG 4" +0"

                Short term goal (10/23/17): 6.75" BPFSL
                Ultimate goal: 7" NBPEL, 5.25" MSEG

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                • #23
                  My routine:

                  Morning:
                  Warm up with light stretching and bends
                  Assisted A-stretch
                  Stretching ligs and skin in all directions
                  Warm Down

                  Evening:
                  Long Warm up, light lig and skin stretching
                  Long and slow OK jelqs (about fifty or less)
                  Long V-jelqs (about fifty or less)
                  Maybe a uli or two
                  Warm down

                  ---

                  I'm still not gaining and realizing how long it's been since my last progress, It's concerning. The only encouraging thing I can see is I have new veins appearing everywhere...
                  10/23/2017:
                  NBPEL 5.55" + 0"
                  BPEL, 6.16" + 0"
                  BPFSL 6.5" + 0"
                  BEG, 5" +0"
                  MSEG, 4.5" +0"
                  TSEG 4" +0"

                  Short term goal (10/23/17): 6.75" BPFSL
                  Ultimate goal: 7" NBPEL, 5.25" MSEG

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Kaskman View Post
                    Now, my routine consists of 2 days on 1 day off. Length the first day, with slow and long jelqing. The next day I do a few minutes of slow and long jelqing and then move on to girth work. I kegel and Uli, do some compressors and horse squeezes..
                    That's an intresting approach, I think I'll try that. I used to rush through my sessions, first stretching, then jelqing and finally squeezing... But from now on I'm gonna approach it like bodybuilding: you can't cover everything in one session!

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                    • #25
                      Been on the stretching and v-jelq routing here... Unit feels great, been doing lots of supplements and in the last couple of days my flaccid unit feels real thick and heavy. More veins, still no gains.
                      10/23/2017:
                      NBPEL 5.55" + 0"
                      BPEL, 6.16" + 0"
                      BPFSL 6.5" + 0"
                      BEG, 5" +0"
                      MSEG, 4.5" +0"
                      TSEG 4" +0"

                      Short term goal (10/23/17): 6.75" BPFSL
                      Ultimate goal: 7" NBPEL, 5.25" MSEG

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                      • #26
                        I've not seen any measurable gains but, my penis is thicker and heavier with more volume for the upper part of my shaft. Haven't been doing a good job following my routine, I'm going to adapt it a little because I feel I always learn new things in this little hobby. Here's my new routine;

                        Three times a week:

                        -Warm up with heating pad, I like to warm up while stretching my skin and ligs a little I'll mix in some flaccid bends and things- 20 minutes.
                        -Stretch light in every direction working the ligt, do circles and helicopters, 12 minutes.
                        -Do this assisted A-stretch I found at thunders, I use a cylinder and stretch over it, it feels great for my ligs. -5 minutes
                        -Jelq 60 overhand ok grip, 60 underhand ok grip and 60 v-jelqs.
                        -Erect Kegels - I get 100 percent erection and kegel a lot with some PC work. My cock is getting stronger and more muscular looking. I like to do like 100 of these.
                        -Warm down again.

                        A couple things I'd like to say- I need to be more consistent on my routine, I feel consistency is the key. But I just don't have the time I would like to have so I want to strictly get 3 good work outs in a week and do one session a day. Anybody have an opinion on warming up, does it help to stretch your unit with heat? Do I need to do the light stretches everyday? I'm being quite careful about not overworking myself right now, but I don't wake up with morning wood most of the time. When I took a decon break, I started working out again when I had morning wood for a whole week. Don't get MW these days, but I think if Jelq 3 times a week I won't overwork myself. I'm thinking I might want to stretch closer to everday with heat.
                        10/23/2017:
                        NBPEL 5.55" + 0"
                        BPEL, 6.16" + 0"
                        BPFSL 6.5" + 0"
                        BEG, 5" +0"
                        MSEG, 4.5" +0"
                        TSEG 4" +0"

                        Short term goal (10/23/17): 6.75" BPFSL
                        Ultimate goal: 7" NBPEL, 5.25" MSEG

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                        • #27
                          New routine-

                          above done 5 days on 2 days off.

                          stretching, jelqing and wearing ADS everyday.
                          10/23/2017:
                          NBPEL 5.55" + 0"
                          BPEL, 6.16" + 0"
                          BPFSL 6.5" + 0"
                          BEG, 5" +0"
                          MSEG, 4.5" +0"
                          TSEG 4" +0"

                          Short term goal (10/23/17): 6.75" BPFSL
                          Ultimate goal: 7" NBPEL, 5.25" MSEG

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                          • #28
                            hows things kaskman,you finding your new routine any beta?
                            29/12/09 ....23/1/10......6/3/10......12/5/10

                            BPEL-6" .....BPEL-61/4"..BPEL-6.5"...BPEL-63/4"
                            EG-43/4".....EG-5"........EG-51/4"....EG-5.5"
                            NBPEL-53/4"

                            SHORT TERM GOAL

                            BPEL-7"
                            EG-5.25"

                            LONG TERM GOAL

                            BPEL-8"
                            EG-6"

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                            • #29
                              No gains in over a year. It's disheartening. I am going back to the routine where I experienced gains originally.

                              5 days a week, 1 jelq workout in the morning. 1 stretching workout with v-stretch and constant heat application.

                              The routine that gave me gains; http://www.*************.org/forum/showthread.php?t=55664. I am going to stick to it, I feel the v stretches are the key to my gains as this thread explores; http://www.*************.org/forum/showthread.php?t=124860&page=3&pp=15I feel I have some sort of strong cord that limits my gains. My erections are very taught and I feel constricted by something inside. I think v-stretches and constant heat will allow for length gains.

                              New routine:

                              Morning routine:
                              heat up with heating pad finish with wash cloth
                              30 jelqs downwards
                              30 jelqs upwards
                              30 v-jelqs
                              30 sideways v jelqs
                              1 minute of uli
                              1 minute of horse squeeze
                              wash cloth warm down



                              warm up, Evening: ten minutes with heating pad and finish with hot wash cloth. Constant heat applied with fan.
                              1 set of stretch in four directions, 30 seconds.
                              1 set of stretching in all 9 directions
                              2 sets of 30 seconds straight out and straight up
                              15 minutes of v-stretch
                              1 minute of bundled stretch
                              Lots of rotary stretches

                              Input appreciated, I want to gain!!! This is ridiculous.
                              10/23/2017:
                              NBPEL 5.55" + 0"
                              BPEL, 6.16" + 0"
                              BPFSL 6.5" + 0"
                              BEG, 5" +0"
                              MSEG, 4.5" +0"
                              TSEG 4" +0"

                              Short term goal (10/23/17): 6.75" BPFSL
                              Ultimate goal: 7" NBPEL, 5.25" MSEG

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                              • #30
                                Okay I am resuming PE with renewed resolve.

                                I've experimented with different techniques, I have cut out jelqing and was using an all day ADS at work with no results. I've decided, since my BPFSL is about half an inch greater than my NON bpfsl, that this is the key to making gains. So I am totally targeting length. I will measure very carefully the BPFSL. To hit it I will do three exercises daily.

                                A-stretches over a cylinder, after warmup about 20 minutes.
                                German Stallions pull out: http://www.*************.com/forum/showthread.php?40496-German-Stallion-s-Paradoxical-Pullout

                                As well as this 15 minute technique of repeated pullouts.
                                http://www.*************.org/forum/showthread.php?t=125429

                                I am going all out for BPFSL. So far, I have not achieved the rubbery state in German Stallions pullout, been trying a couple weeks. Additionally, on the 15 minute exercize posted by cervix hunter on thunders I cannot get any kind of temporary gain in BPFSL. Still, my resolve is strong. I think if I can break down the center cord that so many people refer to I can make gains.

                                Following a stretching exercise, I do about 5 minutes jelquing a day.

                                Input and inexperienced is apprecieted, how have you fellas increased BPFSL?
                                10/23/2017:
                                NBPEL 5.55" + 0"
                                BPEL, 6.16" + 0"
                                BPFSL 6.5" + 0"
                                BEG, 5" +0"
                                MSEG, 4.5" +0"
                                TSEG 4" +0"

                                Short term goal (10/23/17): 6.75" BPFSL
                                Ultimate goal: 7" NBPEL, 5.25" MSEG

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