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Took some extra time off last week. I only did 2 days of my routine.

Today bpfsl- 7 1/4 "

bpel- topped 7 1/4 " yesterday after edging. Should have my bathmate in a couple weeks. My plans are, to break my routine up a little.

10-20 mins- warmup
2 sets of 12 min hangs(5 lbs) rewarm for 5 min in between
5 min rewarm
2 sets of light uli's 20-30 seconds each
5 min rewarm
10 mins of jelqing (V and OK grip)
10-20 min warm down
15-20 min edging a few days a week

THEN at night:

10-15 min warmup in tube
(1)10-15 min bathmate pump
5-10 min jelqing
(2) 10-15 min bathmate pump
5-10 min jelqing

Basically splitting my jelqing time. Half my normal time in the morning time, the half with the pumping.

If any of you vets read this, I would appreciate your thoughts on my new routine schedule........opinions?

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Waylander,

To me this looks like a solid routine assuming you have the time and you're conditioned enough. I say try it, watch for negative PIs and adjust accordingly, with a girth heavy routine like this you also might want to back off on a few days and do a light routine on occasion. You also might want to keep those jelqing sessions closer to 5 min on your pumping workout.

Good Luck!

NE

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Waylander,

To me this looks like a solid routine assuming you have the time and you're conditioned enough. I say try it, watch for negative PIs and adjust accordingly, with a girth heavy routine like this you also might want to back off on a few days and do a light routine on occasion. You also might want to keep those jelqing sessions closer to 5 min on your pumping workout.

Good Luck!

NE

Thanks for the feedback! I've been at it for over 6 months now, so I'm conditioned. Pumping is new to me though, so any advice (like yours) is appreciated.

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My only question is: are you targeting length or girth? This is a very heavy girth routine, but you throw the hanging in at the beginning of the day which I don't really understand. Hanging is VERY taxing to your unit and it would seem as if girth work is much less effective when your unit is tired. What's the frequency of this routine? Days off versus days on...?

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My only question is: are you targeting length or girth? This is a very heavy girth routine, but you throw the hanging in at the beginning of the day which I don't really understand. Hanging is VERY taxing to your unit and it would seem as if girth work is much less effective when your unit is tired. What's the frequency of this routine? Days off versus days on...?

First off, Thanks for your input!

2 on 1 off is what I strive for, though it doesnt always work out that way. I try to do at least 3 days of pe a week. My original intensions were to do a rounded routine to effect both girth and length. I basically stuck with JP's 90 day with a few small modifications(basically added reps and intensity after the 90 days)

I threw in uli's to focus a little more attention to girth(due to slower girth gains). I've had outstanding results in length gains(over an inch). My girth growth has been slow(about 1/8" so far). I havent been hanging very long(still a work in progress), I only do the two 12 min hangs and to be honest, it seems to be less intense to me than the usual manual stretches I was doing.

I havent started this routine yet. I just now have the bathmate on the way.
My normal routine involves about 25 mins of jelqing(V and ok grip).

I'm unable to do any pumping during my standard routine. It will have to be done at a different time of day. That's why I thought about breaking my routine up into two different sessions, but still getting the rep count throughout the course of a PE day. I was under the impression that jelqing along with pumping was a good idea, and rather than add extra jelq's to the day, I would split up the amount I'm doing now in two.

I'm open to suggestions and any advice you have.

Does that make any sense?

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Sorry, I have to log off for the day. I'll be back tomorrow.

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Looks good, just don't get burned out

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Bathmate plus uli's for girth concentration pumping and clamping type exercies seem to add girth. Yeah you should do a program like that 3 days per week. A bit intense for a newb, ease into it see how goes keep in mind the Pi's.

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Thanks guys. Your feedback is much appreciated! I'll take it easy, and keep my eye on the Pi's.

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Hey Waylander,

I'm going to experiment with Andractim cycling. Got any tips for me?

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Hey Waylander,

I'm going to experiment with Andractim cycling. Got any tips for me?

Do alot of research before you decide to do it, would be my advice. There is alot of info online, you just have to take some of it with a grain of salt.
There are some good discusions about it here at the gym.

Be aware that some of the guys online saying they grew 4 inches in a month are full of shit! Look for the medical data and realistic info. Then decide if it's right for you.

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Do alot of research before you decide to do it, would be my advice. There is alot of info online, you just have to take some of it with a grain of salt.
There are some good discusions about it here at the gym.

Be aware that some of the guys online saying they grew 4 inches in a month are full of shit! Look for the medical data and realistic info. Then decide if it's right for you.

I have already decided to do it. I haven't started yet, but once I do I will post daily progress on MOS.

Specifically, what I meant to ask you is: what do you recommend as far as cycling goes? Everyday for a specific duration (1, 2, 3 weeks?), or 3-4 days on/3-4 days off for a specific duration?

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I have already decided to do it. I haven't started yet, but once I do I will post daily progress on MOS.

Specifically, what I meant to ask you is: what do you recommend as far as cycling goes? Everyday for a specific duration (1, 2, 3 weeks?), or 3-4 days on/3-4 days off for a specific duration?

What I understood was to use it until the effects start diminishing. I applied it everyday, for 1 whole tube. Which ended up being a month(give or take a few days).
You do your routine hard during that time. After you stop applying the andractim, then you change to a light routine with frequent breaks for awhile(a few weeks).
After this time, you can start another cycle.

At least this is how I understood the process. hope it helps

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What I understood was to use it until the effects start diminishing. I applied it everyday, for 1 whole tube. Which ended up being a month(give or take a few days).
You do your routine hard during that time. After you stop applying the andractim, then you change to a light routine with frequent breaks for awhile(a few weeks).
After this time, you can start another cycle.

At least this is how I understood the process. hope it helps

so you didnt apply 5g a day ? one tube af andractim contains 80g and if you need 5g everyday you have for 16days?
80/5=16days? or im i missing something? thanks