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    I have question about the LOT

    if If your LOT is 6:00, do you need to do the exercises straight out and straight up only and not left and right or down??

    If your LOT is 9:00 or do you ned to do the exercises straight out and straight down not left and right or up?

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    • skins. Do your exercises in ALL directions. There are still a lot of long time PE'rs that adhere to BIB's LOT theory. But this theory has proven to not be critical to making gains.

      I've got a Tiger by the tail.

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      • Originally posted by JonPop View Post
        skins. Do your exercises in ALL directions. There are still a lot of long time PE'rs that adhere to BIB's LOT theory. But this theory has proven to not be critical to making gains.
        If you think that is brave, i told my mother three years ago what i was doing. She knew about the ED.


        For I will restore health unto thee and I will heal thee of thine wounds, saith the Lord Jeremiah 30:17

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        • I have a few questions about the supplements. Uhm..Do they change your body build? Does this combination of supplements cause any harm? How should they be taken daily?
          Six pills, so 2 of any after breakfast, 2 of any after lunch, and 2 of any after dinner? Do you have to take them in an order? And finally, can someone clear up "To avoid build-up in fatty tissue, of some of the vitamins such as "A", decrease all these supplements to a 5 day on 2 day off routine. Your body will sluff-off any build-up in this period" (JonPop). Thank you !

          PS: I am 18 years old if that changes anything.

          vince1234
          Junior Member
          Last edited by vince1234; 09-09-2008, 12:40 AM.

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          • Vince1234, welcome to the PE Gym. These are JUST vitamins buddy. They aren't going to change your body shape except to make you feel better and maybe exercise more.
            The proper way to take these supplements is:

            30 minutes before eating, take the L-Arginine and L-Lysene. with a small glass or orange juice. The orange juice really compliments the absorbtion of the amino acids.

            During this time, do the 90 day Newbie routine.
            Then eat breakfast and take the Multi Vitamin, the Super B complex and the zinc.

            I wrote that disclaimer because some people can build up an undesired level of Vitamin A.
            If you are are a normal person with normal body chemistery, there would be no problem taking these 7 days a week. This was just an added caution to avoid the slight chance that someone would not be able to tolorate that much Vitamin A.

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            • Thanks for the response JonPop. Do you think taking these supplements and doing the exercises before dinner is a good idea? Or is it only a recommendation to do it before breakfast.
              Also, if I were to jelq without lube meaning dry jelqing or jelqing with lotion, is that as effective of effective at all compared to wet jelqs?

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              • Originally posted by vince1234 View Post
                Thanks for the response JonPop. Do you think taking these supplements and doing the exercises before dinner is a good idea? Or is it only a recommendation to do it before breakfast.
                Also, if I were to jelq without lube meaning dry jelqing or jelqing with lotion, is that as effective of effective at all compared to wet jelqs?
                Taking the supplements is for me, a morning routine. Amino acids are best taken on an empty stomach. Dry or wet Jelqing is an individual preference. I find that dry Jelqing makes my skin sore and wet Jelqing I can get the blood bulge moving easier. It is impossible to do the "V" Jelqs without lube.

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                • JonPop,

                  Would you elaborate on the total time that we would reasonably need to dedicate to this routine. I have re-read, printed it out and studied, and asked others opinions and remain confused in calculating total time. I believe, my confusion is in the "hard" Kegel (10s. - as stated) X 25rep. (10x25=250s!!=~4min./stretch [R,O,U] ???...correct?) time in the stretches. I am currently taking 2wks. off after finishing the "Beginners Routine" as a "building/growth" break and hope to resume with this 90-day program and track it in my progress log.
                  Thank you for your time and information.
                  "Walk softly and carry a big stick." - Theodore Roosevelt

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                  • Hey flyn. Hmm. When I wrote "Hard Kegels" I should have written "Quick" Kegels. You hold a good stretch and do a quick count of 25 Kegels. You stretch in 4 directions, =100 Kegels total. I'm going to go back and change the wording.

                    (edit)Just went back and checked and I had already changed this.
                    JonPop
                    Retired Sr. Administrator
                    PEGym Hero
                    Last edited by JonPop; 09-10-2008, 11:09 PM.

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                    • Johnpop,

                      Thank you, I just noticed that to, but the "quick" Kegels edit seemed like it may have been referring only to the right side stretch, so I was still confused. I now understand that the "quick" Kegles would apply to all directions. Also, why no downward stretching? Although I understood the "LOT theory and 6:00 weak area, if this did NOT apply to all men, would downward stretching not benefit them in some capacity (I like stretching ON gravity's side if possible), or are there some contraindications here? Again, thanks for your time and valued input.
                      "Walk softly and carry a big stick." - Theodore Roosevelt

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                      • I didn't want to over work a Newbies BC muscle to start. 100 kegels per day, is a good start for a 5 day program. Nothing is keeping you from stretching straight down if you desire.

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                        • Basic Stretching Exercises



                          Grasp your warmed up,FLACID (Try and stay as flacid as you can for these stretching exercises, 30% erection is ideal) penis between the thumb and first finger at the base. Palm toward belly. Stretch out slightly and do what are called "Helicopter Shakes." Using your wrist, swing your penis around in a circle, about 5 revs per second for a quick count of 20. (kind of like twirling a key chain)

                          Grasp your penis under the glans in the O.K. grip and stretch to the left. holding the stretch against the theigh.
                          While holding this stretch, do 25 quick Kegels. (count to 25)
                          Next, while still holding the stretch, pull straight out and do 10 stretches in a BIG circle to the left and 10 to the right holding the pull.

                          Return to the base and repeat "Helicopter Shakes". It will be easier to do now, as your flaccid length will be longer. This will get the blood back into the glans.
                          Repeat with 50 "Wet Jelqs" and 30 "V" Jelqs.

                          Do a total of 150 "Wet Jelqs" and 90 "V" Jelqs.




                          I have a couple questions and I dont mean to sound dumb, but

                          1.you said do 10 stretches straight out in a big circle to the left?
                          im lost on that, how is it straight out if your doing it in a circle to the left?

                          2. is there like a video for this? like maybe a mpg video that i dont really have to download that i could just watch? or maybe you could dumb it down for me so i can completely understand so i know exactly what to do.
                          Thanks

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                          • Originally posted by BigManPE View Post
                            Basic Stretching Exercises



                            Grasp your warmed up,FLACID (Try and stay as flacid as you can for these stretching exercises, 30% erection is ideal) penis between the thumb and first finger at the base. Palm toward belly. Stretch out slightly and do what are called "Helicopter Shakes." Using your wrist, swing your penis around in a circle, about 5 revs per second for a quick count of 20. (kind of like twirling a key chain)

                            Grasp your penis under the glans in the O.K. grip and stretch to the left. holding the stretch against the theigh.
                            While holding this stretch, do 25 quick Kegels. (count to 25)
                            Next, while still holding the stretch, pull straight out and do 10 stretches in a BIG circle to the left and 10 to the right holding the pull.

                            Return to the base and repeat "Helicopter Shakes". It will be easier to do now, as your flaccid length will be longer. This will get the blood back into the glans.
                            Repeat with 50 "Wet Jelqs" and 30 "V" Jelqs.

                            Do a total of 150 "Wet Jelqs" and 90 "V" Jelqs.




                            I have a couple questions and I dont mean to sound dumb, but

                            1.you said do 10 stretches straight out in a big circle to the left?
                            im lost on that, how is it straight out if your doing it in a circle to the left?

                            2. is there like a video for this? like maybe a mpg video that i dont really have to download that i could just watch? or maybe you could dumb it down for me so i can completely understand so i know exactly what to do.
                            Thanks
                            Picture an old car in the old movies. Where they had to hand crank to start.
                            Just crank your penis around in a circle 10 cranks to the left, 10 cranks to the right.

                            Or. stick your arm straight out. Now, make a big circle with your arm. This is what you do to your dick.

                            I've got a Tiger by the tail.

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                            • Originally posted by JonPop View Post
                              Picture an old car in the old movies. Where they had to hand crank to start.
                              Just crank your penis around in a circle 10 cranks to the left, 10 cranks to the right.

                              Or. stick your arm straight out. Now, make a big circle with your arm. This is what you do to your dick.



                              I see, ok so stretch to left and kegel 25 times, do we do the same to the right as well? and for the straight out stretch before we crank do i hold the straight out for 30 seconds before cranking?

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                              • Wait here, I'll go get out my kids box of Crayons and draw you a picture. Y'all hold your breath now, ya hear?

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