How much water should you drink while consuming protein shakes? (whey concentrate)

[TheSperminator Member of the Month Oct 12 Find all posts View Profile Close TheSperminator]

+ If you want to sound like a smartass who's got years of experience because you placed 3rd in a national bodybuilding championship, atleast give me some evidence that states protein shakes (isolate, etc.) are a bunch of bullshit.. That way I might excuse myself for being a naive consumer.

And I mean evidence that states protein shakes are just a waste of money, a bunch of bullshit .. Not evidence that tells me real food is better than protein shakes, I know that.

These posts are directed towards "bolkonsky" btw.

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slow your roll Sperminator...

Yes i take copious amounts of anabolics and all kinds of other stuff you've never heard of... but that is besides the point.

If your in a pinch a protein shake with some oatmeal is far better than nothing. But when i'm in a pinch i'm rolling through McDonalds.

But if your finding yourself in a pinch once a day or twice a day, then something is wrong. You will put on So much more muscle and mass by eating some steak and potato's or chicken and rice than you could ever do with a protein shake. Its alot harder to cook an extra 2 meals and toat them with you everywhere you go but thats what it takes to get big.

Whats funny man is almost every pro i know does take BCAA's during their workout. BCAA's are the only supplement (over the counter) that I or anyone i know takes.

I dont have any evidence or stats. I'm just telling it the way it is bro. If you need proof just try it for 4 months... You will never go back to taking shakes again. about 4 or 5 years ago i gave up my post workout shake. It was one of the hardest things to give up. But it worked great during my off season. Of course when your prepping for a show everyone gives up their post workout shake.

[TheSperminator Member of the Month Oct 12 Find all posts View Profile Close TheSperminator]

slow your roll Sperminator...

Yes i take copious amounts of anabolics and all kinds of other stuff you've never heard of... but that is besides the point.

If your in a pinch a protein shake with some oatmeal is far better than nothing. But when i'm in a pinch i'm rolling through McDonalds.

But if your finding yourself in a pinch once a day or twice a day, then something is wrong. You will put on So much more muscle and mass by eating some steak and potato's or chicken and rice than you could ever do with a protein shake. Its alot harder to cook an extra 2 meals and toat them with you everywhere you go but thats what it takes to get big.

Whats funny man is almost every pro i know does take BCAA's during their workout. BCAA's are the only supplement (over the counter) that I or anyone i know takes.

I dont have any evidence or stats. I'm just telling it the way it is bro. If you need proof just try it for 4 months... You will never go back to taking shakes again. about 4 or 5 years ago i gave up my post workout shake. It was one of the hardest things to give up. But it worked great during my off season. Of course when your prepping for a show everyone gives up their post workout shake.

Okay, I don't have time to cook 2 extra meals a day .. Ofcourse steak is great, I feel strong after a good piece of steak.. But I don't have the money (here in Belgium it's expensive) and don't have the time to prepare it .. I eat around 4-5 times a day + 2 shakes.

+ I always heard BCAA's are a waste of money because it's already in the protein shakes (protein gets digested in amino acids, as you ofcourse will know) ..

I also lift weights combined with cardio. My goal is to get an atlethic physique, "aesthetics" as they call it. A nice healthy and fit body + mind.. That's my objective, not to have the biggest muscles. So I still believe a protein shake can be healthy and good for your body with a proper diet besides it.

And I already said this: pro-bodybuilders get their meals cooked or cook their meals themselves everyday at exact or proper moments .. They prepare fresh fish and steak, beans etc ... Me, as a recreational sporter, don't have the time to do all this .. It doesn't mean "that" much to me .. You pro-bodybuilders get your proteins from real food ofcourse, wich is always better .. But does this make protein shakes a scam or useless or "stupid" to take?

And we all know the supplement companies sell a lot of bullshit .. But before I buy something I double check if the quality and product is legit... I get my shakes from a company who is the biggest distributor in Belgium, The Netherlands and Luxembourg. Their products + service won awards ...

So I don't think I'm buying a bucket with "useless powder".

On a sidenote: is it really all worth it to take those hormone supplements? (serious question)

[bolkonsky Banned Find all posts View Profile Close bolkonsky]

Well if your objective is to just stay in shape and not put on alot of muscle then yea protein shakes may do the trick. I actually wouldn't know about that.

Also let me say i'm jealous of where you live. I have an ex girlfriend that now lives in Switzerland. I went over there to visit and traveled in Germany and France. Its fantastic over-there. America really is sinking.

I never said it was "useless powder".. If i did I only ment that its Useless if you want to put on muscle.

And last: Taking all the drugs is worth it if you know what your doing. It is very difficult to know what your doing. I've made alot of mistakes. If i could go back i would have paid someone alot of money to teach me how to do things correctly. It is very hard to find someone (in america) who can teach you this and harder to find someone you trust. However i did fix my mistakes. I studied alot. If you know how to take them and have a good supply then your golden.

[aBone2pick Senior Member Member of the Month July 2014 Find all posts View Profile Close aBone2pick]

If you are really focused on fitness, I'd try to drink an 8 ouncd glass every 30 minutes. You will piss like crazy but feel much better for it.

Also, saying protein shakes don't work is simply false. They are the most effective supplement. They are literally better than roids. Even people on roifs still consume protein shakes.

[bolkonsky Banned Find all posts View Profile Close bolkonsky]

I drink about 3 gallons a day. maybe more. But i'm a big guy.

{Also, saying protein shakes don't work is simply false. They are the most effective supplement. They are literally better than roids. Even people on roifs still consume protein shakes.}

LOL okay whatever.

[akaTrex Senior Member Member of the Month Jan 2016 Find all posts View Profile Close akaTrex]

I drink about 3 gallons a day. maybe more. But i'm a big guy.

{Also, saying protein shakes don't work is simply false. They are the most effective supplement. They are literally better than roids. Even people on roifs still consume protein shakes.}

LOL okay whatever.

Two former IFBB Hall of Fame clients of mine would beg to differ.

Let us know when you are incarcerated and we will send you some. High Carb low Protein Pasta based Prison Food. Yum Yum!

Oh and Water Toxification! LOL okay whatever.

[bolkonsky Banned Find all posts View Profile Close bolkonsky]

dude. There is no such thing as an IFBB hall of fame.


and no i dont get Water Toxification because ONE: i'm a big guy and TWO my metabolism is much much higher than a normal persons. This is due to some of the things i take.

I know what i'm talking about Trex...

Protein shakes are for amateur ... Nothing wrong with being an amateur.

[WIItard Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close WIItard]

Yeah ofcourse protein shakes work .. way convenient, easier to digest than whole food, cheaper etc ...

I know real food is better but it's almost impossible to get all your macro's and kcal from real food alone .. Especially protein .. I'm not gonna eat chicken or poultry every meal..

Real food better. One huge mistake is this, I hope you aren't mixing the protein powder with skim milk???? That is totally useless since you need fat to digest the protein.

[WIItard Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close WIItard]

I drink about 3 gallons a day. maybe more. But i'm a big guy.

{Also, saying protein shakes don't work is simply false. They are the most effective supplement. They are literally better than roids. Even people on roifs still consume protein shakes.}

LOL okay whatever.

What the Hell is a "roifs"????

[WIItard Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close WIItard]

dude. There is no such thing as an IFBB hall of fame.


and no i dont get Water Toxification because ONE: i'm a big guy and TWO my metabolism is much much higher than a normal persons. This is due to some of the things i take.

I know what i'm talking about Trex...

Protein shakes are for amateur ... Nothing wrong with being an amateur.

Sorry there is an IFBB hall of fame.


That's to much water, you're washing all your minerals out with that which is counter productive.

Protein shakes do serve a purpose but usually it's amateurs who rely heavily on them which just won't work. Why it doesn't work is you end up missing things that should be in your diet but you're a genius and my 30 years of experience with weight training is meaningless to you.


Protein shakes are better then ROIDS???? I don't fool with ROIDS but I know a lot about them. Give me 6 months and I'll tell you how to get big in a hurry.

[FinallyBig Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close FinallyBig]

slow your roll Sperminator...
If your in a pinch a protein shake with some oatmeal is far better than nothing. But when i'm in a pinch i'm rolling through McDonalds.

Hell yeah I'd much rather have a double quarter pounder with cheese at McDonald's than a protein shake. I have a tub of protein powder but I rarely use it. I work out and prefer to go home and eat some chicken or beef. It's not even hard for me because I like the taste of real food more than an artificially flavoured shake. I usually have a shake say if I wake up at 4am starving I'll chug a shake and go back to bed, cause I just wanna sleep.

[akaTrex Senior Member Member of the Month Jan 2016 Find all posts View Profile Close akaTrex]

dude. There is no such thing as an IFBB hall of fame.
I know what i'm talking about Trex...


Protein shakes are for amateur ... Nothing wrong with being an amateur.

bolkonsky: dude. There is no such thing as an IFBB hall of fame. ???

IFBB » IFBB Hall Of Fame

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IFBB_Hall_of_Fame


bolkonsky: I know what i'm talking about Trex.

[PurpleOnes Senior Member Member of the Month June 2014PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close PurpleOnes]

I drink about 3 gallons a day. maybe more. But i'm a big guy.

{Also, saying protein shakes don't work is simply false. They are the most effective supplement. They are literally better than roids. Even people on roifs still consume protein shakes.}

LOL okay whatever.

If you use AS then you need to drink the double amount of what normal natural trainee drinks since your using those compounds.

Especially with the use of orals and all that other stuff.

[akaTrex Senior Member Member of the Month Jan 2016 Find all posts View Profile Close akaTrex]

What the Hell is a "roifs"????

ROIDS, Da Cheater Juice, Raisin Testies, aka anabolic steroids.