Overcoming Peyronie's, PremE, and HOCD (9 year battle)

[VoodooChild Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close VoodooChild]

Well said Spartax...couldn't agree more. That old guy (his username is old man I think) you refer to is the one who attacked my posts on their forum because they contained advice that contradicted his own. He was extremely immature and full of himself. I would not listen to a word that guy spews out.

A good 90 days of abstinence now would probably work wonders.

I couldn't recommend it more man. It took me many tries to finally make it but now that I have I'm actually keeping it going. I can't see any quicker route out of this mess honestly.

[spartax Member Find all posts View Profile Close spartax]

Yes that old b***ard is responsible for a lot of damage and when somebody complains that the VED hurt them following his advice he just walks away and looks for the next sucker. He also gets very agitated the moment anybody suggests a treatment that doesn't begin or end with the word VED as you discovered. Unfortunately he is very much protected there so one word against him tends to draw the wrath of the forums moderators.

I know you are a vegan but there is actually one meat based dietary change I have heard about called bone broth that is reported to be very helpful and this is one of those things our grandparents used to make but most of us have never tried. Very simply you put some bones from a chicken or turkey in some water with with a few carrots and onions etc before allowing it to simmer very gently for about 10 hours. An electric slow cooker is ideal.

This is one of those things I read about ages ago but have never tried until today. As I'm typing this the bones from the Christmas turkey are simmering away to make a bone broth and many consider this to be an extremely effective way of curing autoimmune diseases of all kinds. The collagen fills the holes in the gut and stops toxins entering the rest of your body, leading to an over reaction from your immune system to any kind of damage. I'll let you know how it goes.

[VoodooChild Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close VoodooChild]

Sounds good man. I'm vegan as much as I can manage. Sometimes being out to eat with family I will eat something that may have a little cheese or something just so I don't have to deal with the resulting conversation of being so "picky"...not so much my parents. They are supportive. But other people in my family. This is why I cook a lot. Eating out is difficult as a vegan in general. Though it is getting easier.

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I know what you mean about having to eat foods you don't want when meeting with family etc. It's hard enough just with my wife who gets fed up cooking two meals or when I refuse to try something nice she has made.

On my mother's side of the family it's practically impossible to see one of them without a cake within 3 inches of their face and surprise surprise they are all obese. I am here aged 46 with a six pack and trying to do everything possible to heal this stupid Peyronies but in the meanwhile they are stuffing their faces and roll their eyes every time I try to refuse eating plate of pure fat or sugar. None of them know I have this and I wouldn't want them to know but yes it's frustrating, so thankfully I don't have to see them that often.

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Just for the sake of others who may be interested this explains a bit about bone broth Bone Broth Benefits for Digestion, Arthritis, and Cellulite - DrAxe . com

[VoodooChild Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close VoodooChild]

I know what you mean about having to eat foods you don't want when meeting with family etc. It's hard enough just with my wife who gets fed up cooking two meals or when I refuse to try something nice she has made.

On my mother's side of the family it's practically impossible to see one of them without a cake within 3 inches of their face and surprise surprise they are all obese. I am here aged 46 with a six pack and trying to do everything possible to heal this stupid Peyronies but in the meanwhile they are stuffing their faces and roll their eyes every time I try to refuse eating plate of pure fat or sugar. None of them know I have this and I wouldn't want them to know but yes it's frustrating, so thankfully I don't have to see them that often.

yuuup

[tomcruz Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close tomcruz]

Hey voodoo good to hear about you brother. I have a problem, that might be unrelated to yours. But I guess you can guide me a bit. Almost 5 months ago I masturbated, and next day my penis, testicles & perineum went numb. I think I inadvertently put pressure on my dorsal nerve, that caused numbness. Now after 5 months it has improved a bit. But I still can't get proper erection naturally. I can get erection after stimulation, but after stopping stimulation the erection fades. Also after standing up I can't maintain erection as I do while sitting. If I'm watching something sexy (not porn), I get very weak erection & have some dull pain under my testicles in my pelvic floor. Sometimes when I sneeze I get a spasm in my perineum. There is some improvement in the numbness, but only 50% I'd say. My penis feels lifeless like a rubber, and my flaccid bends upwards from just above the base. My erect penis doesn't have a bend though. I've seen 4 doctors, but they've been of no use & say its normal & it will get better. But erections are still hard to attain naturally as I used to do. When I sit on toilet seat & reverse kegel I feel like my sensitivity is improved just for the moment, but goes away. I'm not masturbating, but watch porn sometimes. I'm eating garlic & ginger for circulation. Can you suggest me some exercises, food or supplements?

[VoodooChild Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close VoodooChild]

tomcruz,

Sorry that you're having problems. Sounds like a hard flaccid type of case where the pelvic floor is tensed up causing all those different symptoms. I've dealt with every single one of those problems.

A couple quick questions:

1. How long have you been masturbating to porn and how old are you now?
2. Have you been a regular masturbator in that time or just occasionally?

You say you're not masturbating anymore...how long have you actually abstained? I'd recommend abstaining until this is fixed. Every time you masturbate (and in my opinion, have sex too, since it has to do with the orgasm) you are going to reverse some of the healing that has taken place while abstaining. The unfortunate part that I've learned is that a single orgasm can set you back weeks of abstinence...so it's not an equal ratio. It doesn't just set you back a day in most cases like this. So I would refrain from masturbating entirely until you're confident that things are much improved. I really can't stress this enough. If your body needs to get rid of fluids it will do so through nocturnal emissions which I've found to be far less harmful than a regular orgasm (not to mention they don't happen often...I've been abstinent for almost 100 days now and I've only had 3 or 4 nocturnal emissions). I don't why but they are different somehow, at least for me.

The supplements I listed a couple posts back are still what I'd recommend if you have the money...especially the pure synergy ones for overall health. Also, black and red Maca powder is really helpful.

Beet juice, celery juice, and ginger juice are extremely healthy for men if you have a local juicery or can afford a juicer yourself. Other veggie juices are healthy too. Those are just extra good for guys.

If you can afford to go to a hot yoga studio I'd HIGHLY recommend it. If not try doing some gentle yoga at home (search youtube for yoga hip opening, pelvic floor, and low back). The heat just helps that much more.

Meditation is extremely helpful for healing because it settles down your nervous system which will get in the way of your pelvic floor relaxing again.

Make sure to go about living your life. Don't get too worked up about this. I know it's tough but you gotta keep your head on straight and just realize that you WILL heal...it just takes a little time. Depending on your answers to my questions at the top...I wouldn't doubt that you've just depleted you sexual energies over the years and this is just your bodies way of saying you need to take a break. The more cases I read about online, the more I realize a lot of guys problems (especially for these younger generation that are now in their 20's and early 30's) stem from the issue of over use and over stimulation. Quit the porn, cut out masturbating, do some yoga and meditation, try to adopt more and more plant based meals in your diet, drink some fresh veggie/fruit/root juice, take some healthy supplements, stay active and alive, live your life, and let time heal you. There are no shortcuts. The hard way is the easy way...and the more you stay dedicated the sooner you will be out of this mess.

happy new year man,
voodoo

[tomcruz Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close tomcruz]

@voodoochild nx for the quick reply man. And happy new year to you too bro. I'm 23 yrs old and I've been masturbating since I was 14. I wouldn't do a lot maybe once a week. But recently in past 4 months before the injury, I masturbated very less, only once or twice a month. That night when injury took place, I masturbated after a long time. I wasn't rough at all. But I guess inadvertently I exerted pressure on my dorsal nerve. So later I found out numbness. First 8 weeks I totally abstained. Then after that I masturbated maybe once a week. But now I've decided to abstain completely after reading your thread. I've not masturbated since 10-12 days BTW. I think it has to do with pelvic floor a lot as I get spasms after sneezing every time. I'll definitely try the exercises out, and try to eat some of the things that you told. I live in a different part of the world , so we don't have a health store concept, we don't get some stuff here. I'm thinking about getting American gensing. Thank you for your input & in depth explanation man, I know you've gone through a lot so you can understand what we're going through. I hope all the guys who have such terrible injury, get healed. I'm trying to remain cheerful & calm. I hope it will help. I wish I'll write my success story here soon.
Wishing u all the best brother voodoo.

[VoodooChild Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close VoodooChild]

cheers man, just hang in there and keep us posted on how things are going. sounds like you're doing all the right things.

[tomcruz Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close tomcruz]

I'll keep posting. I have an independent thread also. I hope everything becomes fine soon.

[kurt23 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close kurt23]

Hey Vodoo, and others:

Thanks a lot for opening this thread, it has been indispensable for my recovery.
I started having many of the symptoms you mentioned (ed, curvature, discomfort, hard flaccid, etc), at the beginning of the year. Went to many urologist, and multiple tests without finding any cause. Read Hard Flaccid Unraveled, Heal Pelvic Pain, etc.

Now I think I'm around 50% better, but still have a long path to walk.

I wanted to ask you Voodoo, what's the state of your erections right now? Can you get proper erections without stimulation? Are they weak or hard? Have you tried with any girl recently?

Thanks a lot, and please don't give up!!
We have to mantain the positive thoughts that Voodoo brought here, even when the times gets hard.
That mood has given extraordinary results in many aspects of my life.

[VoodooChild Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close VoodooChild]

Hey kurt23 glad you've found some relief man. Always good to hear that the thread has helped somebody in some way. And yes, it does take some time to get better...that is for sure. I'm still on the path but I'm at a place I've never been before which makes me realize it's just a matter of time.

I wanted to ask you Voodoo, what's the state of your erections right now?

It varies tbh. As you know, I'm the furthest I've ever been in my abstinence. Tomorrow is day 100 of no porn, no masturbation, and no pot for that matter. A huge feat for me. No my goal was 90 days but I've decided to keep this going somewhat indefinitely because it is helping so much.

I don't wake up with strong morning erections hardly ever still. However there have been several nights where I've had such a good erection that it wakes me up and I realize that I'm stable enough at the base to where sex in most positions would probably be possible. The curvature in these instances is greatly reduced and everything seems much more natural feeling how I remember before the injury...but it's not completely reversed. Still some curvature but not debilitating.

In general terms, my penis is just flat out much healthier. The flaccid state is thicker and warmer to the touch for more hours of the day. Dealing with HF WAYYY less though it still comes around sometimes depending on where my head's at in a particular situation. My balls are getting bigger which is a nice plus and the overall sensitivity is feeling healthier and healthier. I sometimes get bursts of libido and really would like to have sex or something but I've done this enough times to know that it's a fine line...and really until my night erections and morning wood are more regular and strong, that "libido" I feel has more to do with the fact that my body is just getting healthier. It's not the "green light" for masturbation. I think that's why so many guys take so long to heal. They "think" they're horny more than they really are. It's a tricky thing to understand. It took me a year and a half of doing this abstinence thing to begin to realize. Plus I've read some other similar cases.

As far as a girl, man I've had several opportunities but I just don't want to back track. I don't want to stress/deplete my system while I'm on such a solid sprint to the end of this. I want to be further down the line before I get involved again. Here's the thing though...my desire to have sex with a real girl is so healthy right now. It's like I can feel it in my bones. It's really great. And if I were to get in bed with a girl I have no doubt that I could perform but it would likely be detrimental to my overall healing because I doubt we'd have sex just once. I don't do one night stands very well so usually there is some emotional investment when I'm in a sexual relationship with someone.

I just have this gut feeling that I'm on such the right path now that soon enough I'm going to begin experiencing morning wood like used to and further reverse my curvature. It's gotten so much better already and the base of my penis is filling out more and more. I'm so happy about it that I just don't want to go backwards any more. The only thing that gets me down sometimes really is the mere fact that it takes so damn long. BUT, then I just remind myself all the years I was digging this hole and doing all the wrong things in regard to my situation. A couple years of healing is a reasonable price to pay.

sorry for the rant...hope that helps..

voodoo

[tomcruz Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close tomcruz]

Hey voodoo, I want to start taking ginseng. Which is better American or Korean and is there any specific brand that you could recommend? Thnx.

[computerguy Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close computerguy]

I haven't read a lot about it but I believe the American/Canadian ginsing is a cooling style and the Korean/Chinese/Siberian Ginsing is Warming. Different effects for the same name. From what I understand you want ginsing that states is (Red Panax?) Or the Chinese/Korean type.