Overcoming Peyronie's, PremE, and HOCD (9 year battle)

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I basically force it out now for the whole duration of the time while urinating and it seems to produce an immediate, albeit short lived drop in inflammation but I'm hoping it will have a cumulative benefit over time. Just going to toilet without forcing it helps as well for some reason but I just use the occasion to deliberately stretch the pelvic floor.

I'm not sure about abdominal exercises. In theory they shouldn't be a problem but in practice when you are digging deep it's easy to grip those PC muscles tightly and it may not be helpful. Think more in terms of gentle yoga and frankly I find a long walk is brilliant. We are really coming back though to point that we don't actually know yet whether or not you have Peyronies. In the meanwhile avoid anything that could cause damage.

I have suffered with more or less constant hard flaccid until recently and it seemed to stop not long after I started the stretching exercises. Avoid sitting down too much because they seems to drive inflammation and hard flaccid.

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My hard flaccid seems to come and go. It's always occurs during showers of which mine are quite warm. Also when i start to rub my penis it seems to go hard quite fast before even getting bigger which it never used to do. I think the deep squatting made my situation worse. Does that help in seeing if it's tension or weakness.
I guess i should just wait and not do anything too rash. Not sure if you read my post on all of the things i currently have wrong with my penis but yeah... theres alot and i'm just hoping to get rid of some but i guess i should wait.

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Don't worry about me doing penis excercises after my blood clot vein i don't i willl ever go there again. I will try to stop masturbating.
I have been looking up routines but i'm concerned with the whole pelvic weakness and tension. I'm worried that certain exercises may do me harm instead. I don't mean to like use up your time but do you know of one video that has safe exercise of which will not cause me more harm then good. Meaning if my condition with the pelvic area is a weakness or tension it will work for both. I don't want to go and try anything and give myself permanent hard flaccid which is what i think i've done almost with deep squats.
Thanks alot to both of you for the help!
p.s My A level exam is tomorrow and i need to revise i will look at it tomorrow. Thanks for the link. I have searched up symptoms of hard flaccid of which alot seem to link.

[VoodooChild Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close VoodooChild]

Any kind of beginning yoga is going to be helpful. You really want to focus on whole body flexibility...not just one area. The thing is, with yoga, it's hard to do anything that does not stretch either the pelvic floor, hamstrings, or lower back. This is all going to help with relaxation of your body...which like I said will help with relaxation of the mind. Meditation does the reverse of that.

As far as core work is concerned, I would first get more limber through beginner yoga. This will help you become aware of the tension you have. Then, once you find some routines that you are comfortable with, add in a core workout such as this one but be mindful of anything causing the pelvic floor to tighten. Essentially you want to get to the point where you can keep the pelvic floor in a relaxed state while tightening the core for the workout. Obviously it will be nearly impossible to keep it as relaxed as if you weren't doing the core workout but you see what I'm saying right? You need to be aware of anything causing you to tense excessively. Those things are not good.

BTW, do not fear yoga! It will not do you harm. HOWEVER don't try to mimic whatever you see people doing in the videos...remember they've been practicing for years in most cases. Your body will not be able to do those things. Just go for the stretch and when you feel the stretch even if you're nowhere near the final position you see in the video, THAT is where you stop and hold. This will get you familiar with your body and the tension that is there all over. You'll be amazed at how good you feel after a month of gentle yoga routines. GENTLE is key. If it hurts you are going too far with the stretch and you will pull a muscle or tear something. Just go slow and easy and it will do wonders for you.

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Concentrate on your exams because those are important. Try to put all of this out of your mind. Above all stop handling it or doing physically aggressive exercises that put stress on the body. Think yoga, meditation, healthy eating and a good night of sleep. Sleep is remarkably helpful for lowering inflammation and healing. Before all this started I was only averaging about 5 hours of sleep per night for years.

I have always had a hardening whenever I take a shower but with a very obvious lump at the base where my main inflammation has always been. It used to last for an hour or so after I had finished showering and I always hated it. Now it's much less prevalent and dies down after a few minutes. It's still there and I still have Peyronies but it's nowhere near as severe now and I have to avoid damage so it has a chance to heal. In general I get much less hard flaccid when I get up and walk around. Sitting down for extended periods seems to be the problem and I'm trying to write a book, which doesn't help.

Finally I would just echo the comments of Voodoo.

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My exams are finished now. I'm still debating whether to go gym. I mean i'm not doing legs and i will also do some cardio. Is that going to badly effect my pelvid floor or penis curve? We talked about this before and how i should do like alot of yoga to compensate. Like those videos are 5 minute long routines do i just repeat them alot throughout the week for like a total of 6 hours to make up for 2 gym sessions. I know going to the gym isnt the most important thing for me now but my friend goes and i don't want to like let him down plus it costs £20 per month...

Thanks for the tip on not being able to properly do what the people in the videos do. I think i'll do lower body stretched e.g lunges, a little bit of abs cardio and some pelvic stretches and see if my condition improves.

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Yes cardio is very good but avoid biking as the seat pressure is bad on the pelvic floor muscles. DO YOGA TO REPLACE YOUR WORKOUTS! Start browsing youtube and trying various beginner routines for a month and then start moving into more difficult ones.

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Hate to be a pest but is doing weights for upper body going to effect my issue? I mean i've been going gym for over 6 months and this hard flaccid only seems to have occurred recently. Of which recently i have been not going gym as much. Sorry it's just i don't want to let my friend down and getting stronger gives me more confidence which i need at the moment.
EDIT: Found this gentle yoga pose video which i think will be great.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7g_nRMq7TxQ
Feel free to glance through it and tell me what you think.

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My guess is that very light upper weights is probably not a problem, but I suspect that is not what you want to hear. The difficulty with weight training is that when you work hard you tend to tense your entire core, grit your teeth and squeeze the pelvic floor that makes everything tighter. It's really the very opposite of yoga and meditation. Weight training can be fairly additive for young men trying to impress but some of the most incredible physiques I've ever seen were obtained by doing yoga. Not muscle bound but incredibly cut and better balanced.

You really need to think long term here and frankly daily meditation done seriously will do far more for your inner confidence than any number of bench press exercises. You have a few weeks still left until your appointment with the doctor so the best thing you can do is avoid further damage and that will likely be the case for quite a while to come.

I've heard of just about every "treatment" imaginable for Peyronies, from the usual suspects right down to crazy stuff like applying bee stings but I can assure you that weight training is just not something that is going to help you right now. You might want to read this just for further information Penis Fracture, Nerve Trauma, Erectile Dysfunction with nerve rupture ripping and curvature.

[VoodooChild Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close VoodooChild]

I second what spartax is saying. You can get just as strong and look better through yoga IMHO. Guys who lift shit tons of weight couldn't manage to do half of the poses required in more advanced yoga. Their muscles are just too damn tense.

Just focus on yoga and meditation till your appointment and start working on transitioning your diet. I understand not wanting to let down your friend but honestly if he's a friend he's not gonna care if you quit going to the gym and start doing other things like yoga instead.

BTW, yes, that yoga video is a great starting point.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7AYKMP6rOE

There's one with a bit more length and some good basic poses.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wJtQjQ4HI8

This 30-day challenge is great but I would stick to the first few videos for a while till you get more comfortable. She gets more advanced as you go.

Once you've been practicing for a month or more and start feeling a little more loosened up, I would recommend finding a groupon deal for a yoga class in your area. Going to classes for a while really helped show me a lot of good poses and they help you along the way. They are much more challenging though so I'd try to find a beginner class until you feel more comfortable. Its not easy stuff when it gets more advanced.

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Well can i do cardio (not bike machine) and bicep curls and some basic tricep stuff. I mean i don't think that will harm me. I only life like 12.5kg on bicep curls so. Just so i can still go with my friend and get my arms bigger and do some cardio.
Surely doing weights sitting down will not effect me? And that link i read... he was probably doing dead lifts or something and plus i don't do that heavy weights. Theres one i may add in for my posture which involves sitting down.
Also doing all of that and yoga... plus stopping masturbation shouldn't that be enough to get rid of my HF. I mean it's not permanent like hard all of the time.

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Thanks for the videos i will use them instead of my original one. Sorry i really can't go to those. I mean i'd rather do them at home... i mean i'm 18 going to yoga classes with most likely old woman will be pretty weird. Do i really need to go that far to fix my pelvic floor issue?

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I think Voodoo and I have tried to advise you on the basis of what we think will be most helpful for resolving your condition without risking further damage, given the very little information we have. It's up to you though at the end of the day what you decide to do. One thing I would say though is that you must learn to listen to your body, so if something is causing you pain, discomfort or inflammation you should stop it. The same goes for food.

I can't speak about other conditions but with Peyronies you can spend months carefully making progress and then screw it all up with a few seconds of thoughtless damage. For me healing is the priority and everything else is secondary.