The HANS Protocol

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my pelvic and left testicle ( it shrinked)has being ruined by cock ring for just 2 minutes !! and when im flaccid my penis tend to lean to the right now .. got damn it !

and my urologist told me that if there is no bend when erect then nothing is wrong .... now i have tight sphincters (urine/bowel) .. the human body is bullshit i just can hope that modern science will figure out in the future 10-15 years how to deal with such problems this is the only hope i got !! mean while im taking muscle relaxants and doing PT every 2 weeks .

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I will say this.... The fact that most of these injuries occur while masturbating or jelqueing or sex.... or some kind of interaction with the penis is not indicative of pelvic floor dysfunction. Unless someone can explain to me why it is? It seems more like it's indicative of an injury to the penis itself. I really don't know but common sense would tell you it's not the PF that is injured if all these guys (me included) injured it through interaction with the penis. I don't claim to know anything so if someone can tell me why that's not the case that'd be cool.

And Rishu.... mine is also often like that in the morning. Every step you described. Hollow for a minute or two and then dead and squishy.

The Injury during sex or jelq or mstrbte strains pc bc muscle which is part of pelvic floor..So, they call it PF dysfunction..

I think, only a theory though, some nerve is entrapped or is in pushed state because of strain which is hindering the blood flow to penis making it squishy or hollow..when we sleep, strain is relaxed and nerve gets better resulting in better blood flow causing quality erection.after waking up it goes back to Spasm.

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my pelvic and left testicle ( it shrinked)has being ruined by cock ring for just 2 minutes !! and when im flaccid my penis tend to lean to the right now .. got damn it !

and my urologist told me that if there is no bend when erect then nothing is wrong .... now i have tight sphincters (urine/bowel) .. the human body is bullshit i just can hope that modern science will figure out in the future 10-15 years how to deal with such problems this is the only hope i got !! mean while im taking muscle relaxants and doing PT every 2 weeks .

Hansprotocol, i.e. kinda PT, atleast helped me in getting rid of the pain in buttocks, perenium area And lil bit here and there.HF also, though I ain't sure, but I think is gone because it's not shriveled and hard all the time..it's still most of the time small but I feel it hangs..I cannot feel most of the time that I have a penis but when I touch it , it's small but kinda hanging..but it's dead.

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These days, when relaxed or stretch my leg , I feel titillating kinda feeling in my perenium area, as if some viscous/ muddy lil drops of liquid is forming and ending but only for seconds..this might not mean anything so just ignore this..

[Xams2387 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Xams2387]

RKs dont work because there is an underlying cause like uneven hips, lower back issues. The pelvic floor will stay cramped if the root of this problem isnt fixed.

You can rk all day long without improvement. Trust me. I was there.

So proper posture/alignment is the root fix or anxiety is?
Or both?

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Hans, you mentioned that anxiety is crucial. Would you state that it’s crucial WITH a certain amount of flexibility/alignment?
As in, anxiety reduction alone won’t fix you. You need to also be physically aligned, flexible and released enough?

I’m curious about your and anyone else’s hamstrings.
How tight were they when you had symptoms and how are they now that you are better?
The way to measure would be with Pike Pose. It’s a neutral (slightly arched) spine toe touch. No rounding of the lower back. Basically how far down your shins when you had symptoms vs now that you’re better.
I’ve talked to some people that got better and they said hamstrings are critical.
Also, Katy Bowman thinks they are very important if you read her articles.

If your hamstrings are tight, you can’t Hindi squat very deep without rounding the lower back.
I can’t deadlift off the floor or squat to parallel because mine are too tight.

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Also just wanted to ask if anyone has had their thyroid tested.

It’s probably completely unrelated to the pelvic floor stuff.

But I’ve had insane fatigue and brain fog and things like that. I tested positive for Hashimoto’s, which causes hypothyroidism.

Does anyone else have crazy fatigue and brain fog, or difficulty concentrating. Things like that? Like very hard to get out of bed fatigue.

Once again probably unrelated but if I got it fixed and got more energy back it would make dealing with HF a lot easier and put me in a better mood.

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Hans, you mentioned that anxiety is crucial. Would you state that it’s crucial WITH a certain amount of flexibility/alignment?
As in, anxiety reduction alone won’t fix you. You need to also be physically aligned, flexible and released enough?

I’m curious about your and anyone else’s hamstrings.
How tight were they when you had symptoms and how are they now that you are better?
The way to measure would be with Pike Pose. It’s a neutral (slightly arched) spine toe touch. No rounding of the lower back. Basically how far down your shins when you had symptoms vs now that you’re better.
I’ve talked to some people that got better and they said hamstrings are critical.
Also, Katy Bowman thinks they are very important if you read her articles.

If your hamstrings are tight, you can’t Hindi squat very deep without rounding the lower back.
I can’t deadlift off the floor or squat to parallel because mine are too tight.

I would say most people that have PF issues have tight muscles, but that is just a correlation, not a causation. The only exception to this would be a pelvic imbalance, which can easily be corrected by a PT.
Anxiety plays a much larger role in PFD cases than tight hamstrings.
Hindis are NOT required to treat a PFD, a regular deep squat should suffice.

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Also just wanted to ask if anyone has had their thyroid tested.

It’s probably completely unrelated to the pelvic floor stuff.

But I’ve had insane fatigue and brain fog and things like that. I tested positive for Hashimoto’s, which causes hypothyroidism.

Does anyone else have crazy fatigue and brain fog, or difficulty concentrating. Things like that? Like very hard to get out of bed fatigue.

Once again probably unrelated but if I got it fixed and got more energy back it would make dealing with HF a lot easier and put me in a better mood.

Talk to Jay1983 on that one.
https://www.pegym.com/forums/members/jay1983.html

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I would say most people that have PF issues have tight muscles, but that is just a correlation, not a causation. The only exception to this would be a pelvic imbalance, which can easily be corrected by a PT.
Anxiety plays a much larger role in PFD cases than tight hamstrings.
Hindis are NOT required to treat a PFD, a regular deep squat should suffice.

Pelvic imbalance as in a posterior or anterior pelvic tilt?

Because that’s hard to undo. Posterior tilt comes from tight hamstrings.

It’s weird though man, I’ve had this for 6 years and gone through periods of not worrying about it and even being pretty darn apathetic and just not caring about it, and even taking enough Xanax to not care, but that alone doesn’t help it.

I feel that getting rid of anxiety is like taking your foot off the brakes, and the fixing the posture, lengthening and strengthening the muscles that need it is like putting your foot on the gas.
You need to do them both at the same time.

I’ve gotten success from doing both on their own but more from just trying to chill WHILE addressing the physical issue.

I have horribly tight hamstrings though.

Maybe you weren’t AS tight as some other people.
Maybe that’s why some stretching with relaxing helped you more than others.

Would you mind humoring me and telling me how far you can get in you Pike Pose?
-with a slightly arched spine.
Basically how far down would you travel in a Romanian Deadlift

[Xams2387 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Xams2387]

Talk to Jay1983 on that one.
https://www.pegym.com/forums/members/jay1983.html

Will do man. Thanks!

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Pelvic imbalance as in a posterior or anterior pelvic tilt?

Because that’s hard to undo. Posterior tilt comes from tight hamstrings.

It’s weird though man, I’ve had this for 6 years and gone through periods of not worrying about it and even being pretty darn apathetic and just not caring about it, and even taking enough Xanax to not care, but that alone doesn’t help it.

I feel that getting rid of anxiety is like taking your foot off the brakes, and the fixing the posture, lengthening and strengthening the muscles that need it is like putting your foot on the gas.
You need to do them both at the same time.

I’ve gotten success from doing both on their own but more from just trying to chill WHILE addressing the physical issue.

I have horribly tight hamstrings though.

Maybe you weren’t AS tight as some other people.
Maybe that’s why some stretching with relaxing helped you more than others.

Would you mind humoring me and telling me how far you can get in you Pike Pose?
-with a slightly arched spine.
Basically how far down would you travel in a Romanian Deadlift

I meant uneven hips.
I still to this day have terribly tight hamstrings and other muscles in my legs. PF tension is due to tension in the PF. That is where to problem lies predominately.

[Xams2387 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Xams2387]

I meant uneven hips.
I still to this day have terribly tight hamstrings and other muscles in my legs. PF tension is due to tension in the PF. That is where to problem lies predominately.

Yes but if you’re out of alignment, more work is going to be required of certain muscles instead of the ones that are supposed to be doing their job, but can’t because they are tight and inhibited.
The pelvic floor takes more of the load because of this.
It’s being forced to use itself more than normal and it’s therefore harder to relax.

It’s like if you have forward rounded shoulders, you will have to force your shoulders back into place by contracting your mid and upper back muscles all day or you’ll stay in poor posture and have a heavier load placed on the upper traps.

According to Katy Bowman, who’s a bio-mechanical engineer that focuses on the body and specifically the pelvic floor, if your hamstrings are tight and inhibited then you can’t use your glutes properly. That’s pretty obvious as if you try to squat down you will lose the lower back arch and begin to round the lower spine and lose the contraction in the glutes.
The glutes are needed to help the pelvic floor.

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Also, how can I turn on post notifications via email?

I’m not getting alerted in the website or through my email of responses.

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Some talk on posterior chain here may interest.

https://www.pegym.com/forums/prematu...ariants-5.html