Black Lives Matter Movement?

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In response to Jackxxx about everyone having equal opportunity. In a sense thay is true. But when kids grow up without fathers, without disciple, without money, without education, without hope, it makes it much harder to succeed. You can't raise children like that then all of a sudden they become amazing adults. Not saying it can't happen, but these are obvious indicators of success. Im not saying anybody is forcing this, but it becomes a revolving cycle. Kids raised without fathers at much more likely to get on drugs or go to prison. Add on top of that poor children with no fathers. Add on that poor kids raised with no discipline and odds of becoming a criminal go up drastically.

That is why my belief is that change needs to happen everywhere. If cops suddenly became Saints, that wouldn't change the black community much. But if blacks make a change but are still treated the same, that won't work either.

But you can't say people that grow up in these communities have the same opportunity as everyone else. Not comparing to terrorists at all, but its like ISIS. Its a culture. Blowing it up, beating on it, and calling it names will not fix the problem. Its like kicking a hornets nest. We have to implement changes that help change the culture.

Well, in a way we have created the problem of a fatherless black home. Recently I spent some time in Detroit, got there late Sunday nite. There was a Friday's near the hotel and went for dinner. The place was packed, figured it would be empty. Had to sit at the bar. Asked the white female bartender, "It's a Sunday night? Anyone have to work in the morning".... "Work???!" She says, no. I look around, it's filled mostly of younger black women with a lot of kids getting paid by the government not to have husbands.

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... I look around, it's filled mostly of younger black women with a lot of kids getting paid by the government not to have husbands.

That's a huge assumption.

How do you know that?

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That's a huge assumption.

How do you know that?

Thats what the bar tender said, she been there for a couple years. I see it ever day, young unmarried women buying stuff at my store with food stamps. I've read posts about it from women who milk the system, and proud of them selves. No different than than rich folk looking for every tax deduction Warren Buffet pays a smaller income tax percentage than his secretary.

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Thats what the bar tender said, she been there for a couple years. I see it ever day, young unmarried women buying stuff at my store with food stamps. I've read posts about it from women who milk the system, and proud of them selves. No different than than rich folk looking for every tax deduction Warren Buffet pays a smaller income tax percentage than his secretary.

So...where are all the men?

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So...where are all the men?

IDK, working? LOL. There were a few there, but more grandmothers than men.

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There are allot of factors but IMO the biggest issue is the culture their community adopted for its self. Weak family structure. Glorification of criminality on all levels. Embrace of prison culture outside of prison. Easy quick money success stories idolized ie rappers, athletes

Look at hispanics most are able to get out of the cycle of poverty. Why?
Strong family structure. Embrace there cultural heritage. Elders and leaders shun criminality. Actually successful people held in esteem ie Dr's, lawyers, political leaders.


These are generalizations obviously but if you've been exposed to their community long enough.

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As a black man, I despise the #BLM. It's just propaganda brainwashing to stir up racial tension, In fact, 90% of television is just plain mind control. Why the hell don't they report all the black on black shootings that outnumber the white cop on black shootings?


People need to realize that #BLM will never stop, because there's bound to be a white cop that will shoot a black person inappropriately no matter how many protest there are. It's literally just pissing people off and making everyone angrier at us.

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In response to Jackxxx about everyone having equal opportunity. In a sense thay is true. But when kids grow up without fathers, without disciple, without money, without education, without hope, it makes it much harder to succeed. You can't raise children like that then all of a sudden they become amazing adults. Not saying it can't happen, but these are obvious indicators of success. Im not saying anybody is forcing this, but it becomes a revolving cycle. Kids raised without fathers at much more likely to get on drugs or go to prison. Add on top of that poor children with no fathers. Add on that poor kids raised with no discipline and odds of becoming a criminal go up drastically.

That is why my belief is that change needs to happen everywhere. If cops suddenly became Saints, that wouldn't change the black community much. But if blacks make a change but are still treated the same, that won't work either.

But you can't say people that grow up in these communities have the same opportunity as everyone else. Not comparing to terrorists at all, but its like ISIS. Its a culture. Blowing it up, beating on it, and calling it names will not fix the problem. Its like kicking a hornets nest. We have to implement changes that help change the culture.

I agree, however there is a problem. We have seen the clips of BLM supporters marching on the streets screaming calling for dead cops and pigs in a blanket and such. Where are the leaders of BLM to publicly clarify that they don't stand with those supporters and their cause is different? So far no word from them.

On the other hand, when an officer is involved in a shooting, an investigation is opened and the officer is taken to court.

I absolutely believe that the whole foundation of BLM is a fallacy to begin with, I do believe its origins are plain terrorism, racism and political gain. However, if they at least openly came out to accuse these protesters of derailing the true purpose of the movement, I would give them some credit. But for now, to me they are domestic terrorists and MUST be catalogued under the law as such just like the KKK is.

Its funny these days how upside down and twisted the head of the people is. A latino can openly say that he's latin king, ms-13, that his whole family was and thats why he is one, they are normally involved in the society working, everything. You can openly say that you're a black panther or a BLM, that is ok. All of them are poor victims of some twisted system and they are just expressing their opinion.

But if by any chance a white American publicly declare to be an active member of the KKK, he is publicly humiliated, insulated with the mist horrible terms, catalogues as evil, segregated, accused, and considered the most evil horrible human being ever born.

Why the double standard? Why the mental inability to use reason? is everybody on pills or on that popular weed these days?? The stupidity is so big that can't even be measured. I remember after the Orlando mass shooting, all the fucks on Facebook started with the "we are orlando profile" and a rainbow background in their pics. Everywhere you see "Pray for Orlando" After the Dallas attack on blue heroes, where are the blue backgrounds on Facebook??? HUH?? Where are the "we are dallas" profiles??? Where are the "pray for Dallas" signs?? HUH??? can anybody answer that rationally?? This country is successfully going through a deep process of pussyfication and brain damage from I don't know what. But that type of collective behavior I do not consider as average IQ. I consider it as severe mental instability.

So for now, fuck BLM. They are terrorists plain and simple. Either we treat everybody equally, or we punish them and call them by their names just like we call "some" of them.

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no doubt policing in the US has changed for the worse over the last 20-30 years. Blame the "war" on drugs. Blame the physiological tests for becoming an officer. Blame the flood of combat veterans into the police force. Many factors but not just blacks suffer from this. I personally have watched quit a few white men and women be abused by police first hand. About a year ago I watched them club a 25 year old white kid out side a bar so bad the kids face never healed right. I've seen them pepper spray people already in cuffs, ect ect

Any one below a certain income level line deals with it equally. Whites, Hispanics and Asian communities just tend to not champion the law breakers among them.

I knew a guy who went to the main bar area in town and fought people every weekend. He was white and a big guy. End result is the police just got sick of him and you would too. End result is they cuffed him and through him down a flight of stairs telling him he needs to get his shit together or he should never come back here. Did anyone shed a tear for him? No he got what he deserved, if you want to live by the sword then you will die by the sword.

You could say his civil rights were violated etc. etc. End result is on any given weekend he could have picked out a guy who might beat his ass worse then the police so no biggie there. He did stop his weekend get drink and fight people routine. He was just a young guy who was testing himself against whoever wanted to fight but his real mistake or so I've been told was trying to kick the door off the police van when they tried to load him in. Apparently that was the over the top move.

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Well, mistakes are made by both sides, we are human, we are all Americans. Obama said we are, what happened to Hope and Change, where is the President?

talking to the Mrs today after another Police killing today, don't know the circumstances. Killing White cops mite become the next copy cat crime of choice. If so, will become a very dark road to follow. Hard to believe that the greatest fear in this country won't be ISIS anymore. Since 1865 and 1960's we've come so far. I've got this feeling of despair that we will fall into anarchy. We all have to step back and take a deep breath, forgive each other. Please.

Actually I would say the black community has regressed, worse then ever before. Just no value on human life in many cities in the black areas. Never ending cycle of violence that can't be solve except by them. If you have noticed many black cops are involved in these shootings but the press just doesn't say much about it. White kills black guy and it's all over the news.

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Its funny these days how upside down and twisted the head of the people is. A latino can openly say that he's latin king, ms-13, that his whole family was and thats why he is one, they are normally involved in the society working, everything. .

To be perfectly Fair Latin Kings and ms-13 are a bit different.

I know couple kings. They have black relatives, white relatives not necessarily racist. It's no different then the biker clubs you have to be white to join not all the members are white supremacist even though the media would paint them that way. They are just gangbangers.

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There are allot of factors but IMO the biggest issue is the culture their community adopted for its self. Weak family structure. Glorification of criminality on all levels. Embrace of prison culture outside of prison. Easy quick money success stories idolized ie rappers, athletes

Look at Hispanics most are able to get out of the cycle of poverty. Why?
Strong family structure. Embrace there cultural heritage. Elders and leaders shun criminality. Actually successful people held in esteem ie Dr's, lawyers, political leaders.

These are generalizations obviously but if you've been exposed to their community long enough.

A country is easily controlled if the citizens are divided. Enough said. #allivesmatter vs terrorism's #nolivesmatter

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Poverty and the belief that only one political party could ever help them. They must open their eyes and ears and choose people that have and will do things to help them and not keep them where they are.

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BLM, is nothing but a bunch of blacks using the race card! There the only race that crys about racism..what about the irish? They had it ruff and they don't cry. They need to get over the white versus blacks crap. The whites did..and the whites didn't buy them because of there color but because they were for sale. And the whites bought them from there own people! So maybe they should be mad at there people..not us..and what about the 620,000 white folks that died freeing them, do you they ever say thank you for that? NO THEY DONT! instead they rather have an excuse to cry about the whites and why they act the way they do..I'm from the ghetto and I'm not a drug dealer or thief! I work my ass off every day! So you can't say there a product of there environment ! I'm living proof that's B.S! we choose our destiny..so tired of the blacks crying and making excuses why they do what they do and blame the white man..try thanking us for the deaths of all the whites trying to free you and blame your people for selling you!!

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Poverty and the belief that only one political party could ever help them. They must open their eyes and ears and choose people that have and will do things to help them and not keep them where they are.

Yes, but also they need to step up, be men and help themselves. There ain't enough money in the world that will do that for them. Only make their dependence on the government worse, excactly what some politians want to keep their vote. The problem I'm seeing in the younger generations of all races is that somebody owes them something. They want that BMW at 25 and if they ain't got it it's someone else's fault, not theirs. Never mind they settled for flipping burgers for eight years and dropped out of school, they should be making six digits by now.