What went wrong with generation snowflake

[TheGreatDivider Senior Member Member of the Month Dec 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close TheGreatDivider]

That movement is done and only the extremist are left to march on. I've had women actually say to me that the feminist movement wasn't a great idea. Many don't want to work, they want to go have kids and take care of the kids. I remember someone said MILF alert and this lady said what's a MILF? I told her, she thought about it for a minute and said I want to be a MILF. LOL. A feminist would not like that type of thinking.

Unfortunately, the radical feminism is still going strong in many universities where young women are indoctrinated into believing in they are victims of "patriarchy." Believe me, I know... I attend a woman's university. I'm not sure what you're describing there but feminists do not want to have kids, they see marriage as oppressive and put off having kids and relationships for careers. But I do agree with you that the latest feminist movements are a joke. It's like they have nothing left to fight for and would rather protest President Donald Trump's than I don't know, maybe do something about sex trafficking, child brides, domestic violence towards men and boys, Islam extremists abusing women in our country, or even the opioid epidemic. You know, any of the real life problems that are affecting women, not these hashtag movements ok Twitter.

[WIItard Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close WIItard]

You guys seem to be missing the point. This thread is about the younger generations values or lack thereof.

In the US it's becoming very segmented. Many kids are being trained to just be pussies and others are being train like the old days. It's just many more kids are being trained as pussies then ever before. What will happen is the feel good crowd is never going to amount to anything but sheep. The wolves have always been around and always will be so to speak. These kids are being trained to have no ambition or any person goals. Hard to explain.

Had a strange thing happen that goes with this. I dropped by my uncle's house who I haven't seen in a decade probably. He's my youngest uncle so when I was 18 he was like 26. He thought I was hopped up and acted like a dick on occasion. He was right. We knew each other fairly well because we weren't that far age wise apart. Thing is he was drafted right out of high school and served on a PT boat in Vietnam. Couple of purple hearts, bronze star, he saw a lot of action. I left my parents house at 17 and didn't come back very often. I looked around his house and his son is still there looking for a job as a teacher. He went to college but why is this guy who is now 28 still living with his parents? My uncles grand kids are there as well because older son just can't get it together, some how he had kids but no plan to be able to feed and house the kids. It's nice to have the family around but what the Hell is going on here? My uncle seemed a little a shamed of this situation. Seems that is becoming the normal thing now. I keep hearing about peoples kids still living with their parents being 30 years old. I just don't have much respect for slackers. Guys more the girl's. I can see a girl living much longer at the parents house but the guys should be out there trying to do something with themselves.

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The thing is, a woman's "sexual market value" peaks at about 23 (22-24), so I believe all your niece is doing is realizing (probably subconsciously) that she has to "put herself out there" in the hopes that she will find the best man she thinks is for her, and this is her way of doing it. As she gets older (about 27), it will decline, and she will feel pressured to find a man for herself, whether she realizes it or not. It's simple psychology.

Agree to a point. I noticed 27 is about marrying age in the US for a women. The young ones do figure out they can bang guys where ever they want, women have it easy in their early 20's finding men. The women from the Op is putting it out there and she is hunting. Her choices are wrong in my opinion. First off don't go after any ball players unless you just want to load up on money in the divorce. Finding a guy as a dancer is going to find you guys who like to watch women dance if you know what I mean, probably not your best choice right there either.

[WIItard Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close WIItard]

I suppose that is the difference between desire and love. Desire is largely superficial in nature, and is egotistical and instabile. Love, on the other hand, is formed over time, through commitment and sacrifice for each other, and creates a strong, lasting bond between people. Desire does not necessarily lead to love, and love can lead to include desire.

NO.

Want to get rid of a long term girl friend or wife? Have cash flow problems as in being broke and out they go for greener grass. Love doesn't have anything to do with what you said.

[Injoker Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Injoker]

Lets be real, if the current generation is fucked up, it can only be because the previous generations created an environment in which the current generation would become fucked up.

[HansTwilight Retired ModeratorPE Gym Editor Member of the Month Jan 2017PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close HansTwilight]

Lets be real, if the current generation is fucked up, it can only be because the previous generations created an environment in which the current generation would become fucked up.

Yes, because all kids with abusive parents grow up to be sociopaths. No, we millineals have brains in our head, we have the decision to work hard or be lazy. That's such a convenient excuse, you have the decision to live your life how you want to, no one set you up for anything.

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Lets be real, if the current generation is fucked up, it can only be because the previous generations created an environment in which the current generation would become fucked up.

It wasn't my generation. It was the baby boomers. I'm Gen X BTW. I never liked those Damn Hippies.

[WIItard Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close WIItard]

Yes, because all kids with abusive parents grow up to be sociopaths. No, we millineals have brains in our head, we have the decision to work hard or be lazy. That's such a convenient excuse, you have the decision to live your life how you want to, no one set you up for anything.

That's a wolf talking and you will have an easy ride through life. The sheep are everywhere in your generation.

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That's a wolf talking and you will have an easy ride through life. The sheep are everywhere in your generation.

Exactly, the sheep are just consumers. They sit around bitching about the 1% when they make no attempt at becoming what they envy. Then they ask the government to tax them so they can have more. It's petty. I enjoy and take the utmost pride in being a wolf.

[Injoker Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Injoker]

Yes, because all kids with abusive parents grow up to be sociopaths. No, we millineals have brains in our head, we have the decision to work hard or be lazy. That's such a convenient excuse, you have the decision to live your life how you want to, no one set you up for anything.

Ah yes, the first fallacy of neoliberal economics. The harder you work, the more success you will have. Except it doesn't work like that, because capitalism relies on your boss fucking you over, and his boss fucking him over, and his boss fucking him over, so that they can all maintain their legitimacy as part of the business (I can elaborate if you want). It is economic feudalism. People are working 80 hour weeks and are not able to pay rent. People get sick and can't afford medication. There is no internship for becoming the CEO of Monsanto. If you are poor, you have the least agency within the economic system, particularly right now, than at any other point in history. Neoliberalism says "economics is a race to the top, and everyone can succeed" which would be true if we had limitless resources. The reality though is that we have finite resources and the more resources you have, the easier it is for you to collect these resources through money. If Monsanto wanted to buy out all of the coffee shops in a small town, what stops them? Morals? Do we really want to rely on the morals of the uber wealthy to look after the world? Because their morals are all twisted by the amount of power they have. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Money is power. The gap between the wealthy and the poor has never been higher. 43.1 Million Americans are living below the poverty line, or 13.5%. When you can't afford clothes, food, medication or housing, how do you become successful? The system is stacked against you from the top down.

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Ah yes, the first fallacy of neoliberal economics. The harder you work, the more success you will have. Except it doesn't work like that, because capitalism relies on your boss fucking you over, and his boss fucking him over, and his boss fucking him over, so that they can all maintain their legitimacy as part of the business (I can elaborate if you want). It is economic feudalism. People are working 80 hour weeks and are not able to pay rent. People get sick and can't afford medication. There is no internship for becoming the CEO of Monsanto. If you are poor, you have the least agency within the economic system, particularly right now, than at any other point in history. Neoliberalism says "economics is a race to the top, and everyone can succeed" which would be true if we had limitless resources. The reality though is that we have finite resources and the more resources you have, the easier it is for you to collect these resources through money. If Monsanto wanted to buy out all of the coffee shops in a small town, what stops them? Morals? Do we really want to rely on the morals of the uber wealthy to look after the world? Because their morals are all twisted by the amount of power they have. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Money is power. The gap between the wealthy and the poor has never been higher. 43.1 Million Americans are living below the poverty line, or 13.5%. When you can't afford clothes, food, medication or housing, how do you become successful? The system is stacked against you from the top down.

You take a student loan and go to fucking college.

[Injoker Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Injoker]

You take a student loan and go to fucking college.

Student loans: the economic equivalent of breaking your legs so you can't kick above your own head. Here's a loan you won't be able to pay off with interest rates that cripple you. Or alternatively the government could provide education free by actually taxing the 1 in 3 companies that pays zero tax, which would allow everyone to get the education they need to contribute to society. But that's socialism, so I guess if you did that, then the next step is Hitler camps and Gulags. Ironically enough, I am studying at University this very topic, but I live in Australia so the government pays for our education and we get to repay it at a more reasonable expectation, fortunately for me.

[Injoker Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Injoker]

Also how do you repay a student loan if you're homeless? You need a job to be able to do that. You can't get a job because you don't have the money to provide for the things you need to be able to convince an employer you're worth investing in.

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Also how do you repay a student loan if you're homeless? You need a job to be able to do that. You can't get a job because you don't have the money to provide for the things you need to be able to convince an employer you're worth investing in.

Your counter argument is totally circumstantial.
We need to get back to the topic of this thread, I'm a mod so I have to follow the rules extra hard. Feel free to create a thread regarding your opinions if you like.

[Injoker Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Injoker]

It may be circumstantial, but it is relevant. Anyways, this has been super fun, I love getting an excuse to talk about this stuff, but back to the topic like you say.