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  • #16
    Thanks guys! I hope this proves to be beneficial for you. If you decide to give this a try, keep us updated as to your results.



    Originally posted by phallic1 View Post
    Interesting theory guys.

    I'll add my stats into the pot as well.

    BPFSL: 7.625"
    BPEL: 7.00"
    EQ: 7

    I regards to erection quality there are many variable which can affect hardness, frequency and duration. I can have nocturnal erections of a 10 rating. The kind that will wake me from sleep but I do not get these every night nor do I wake with "morning wood" every day.

    I am just recently (within the last 5 days) getting back into PE after a break of about one year.

    Thanks for the stats. We'll throw you in the pot. You are correct in saying many things can affect EQ. That's why it is important that there are no other underlying factors involved. Sounds like you may be borderline on smooth muscle volume. I think a good SM oriented routine will help get that EQ to 10 all the time.

    Originally posted by phallic1 View Post
    Pondering penis's while reading over the TGC theory and Shane Diesel, John Holmes and Shorty Mac came to mind. These guy's all have huge penis's in length and girth but none seem to be able to achieve an erection much over 75%. Although we do not no their BPFSL or BPEL measurments could we assume based on TGC theory that smooth muscle could be the limiting factor in erection level? Yet, Diesel, Holmes and Shorty Mac's penis's appear not to be lacking in internal corpus cavernosa or spongiosum development. By that I mean their penis's look engorged and very full, appearance of "ribs" and well developed vascularity.

    Are appearance decieving??
    That's a good question. Without knowing their stats it would be hard to speculate.


    Originally posted by kingpole View Post
    Hey igauna are you any relation to Godzilla?

    im implementing the theory in my own progress thread over at Thunders "Discipline pays off." I started Saturday.
    Actually he is a distant cousin. The family really doesn't speak much of him anymore with that whole Tokyo incident.
    It just really doesn't look good when a family member eats hundreds of Japanese citizens.

    Glad to hear you're going to give this a shot. I'm very eager to hear how it works for you. Keep us updated!

    Originally posted by wohoo19m View Post
    Wow, that was a VERY interesting read. I've lacked gains for a while now, and I have pretty much a 9.5 - 10 on the scale. I'd been considering if adding length exercises was the missing factor to my routine. But I'm definitely doing to be a guinea pig for your theory. I've been doing girth work mostly for the past year and not seeing much results. Only results I had was when I was doing piss sessions where I gained 1/8" in a month. But I stopped afterwards because the skin under the glands was getting too irritated...Time to focus my efforts somewhere else.

    Well done guys
    You sound like a great candidate for applying this. Could you start a progress log so we can follow along?


    Thanks again guys!!!
    May 2006: 5.75" X 4.5" - Now: 7.44" X 4.875"


    Let me tell you the secret that has led me to my goal: my strength lies solely in my tenacity.

    Louis Pasteur

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    • #17
      Good stuff guys!

      I will test your theory.

      I recently gained 0.5" in length and now have a BPFSL that is 1.2cm longer then my BPEL so I have created a girth-focused manual routine that I did yesterday and today.

      My BPEL is 18.5cm

      BPFSL is 19.7cm

      EQ is about 8

      I do not remember the name of some of the exercises that I do but here is my routine: 100 wet-jelqs at about 70% erection level, 6 squeeses where I count to ten (where you hold a grip at your base and right under your glans, focusing on the CCs.), 6 "mild" Ulis where I just grip at the base, move the grip forward untill I get some decent pressure, then I hold there for 10sec, release and repeat. 5 slinkys downwards and five upwards. Finish with 50 wet-jelqs (same as the first 100).

      So far so good. Great morning wood today and a general feeling of hornyness.

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      • #18
        Sounds good, babbis. What's your days off schedual? Are you warming up and down? Be careful with the (where you hold a grip at your base and right under your glans, focusing on the CCs.) "Horse 440's" it is easy to thrombose a vein. JP

        I've got a Tiger by the tail.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by babbis View Post
          Good stuff guys!

          I will test your theory.

          I recently gained 0.5" in length and now have a BPFSL that is 1.2cm longer then my BPEL so I have created a girth-focused manual routine that I did yesterday and today.

          My BPEL is 18.5cm

          BPFSL is 19.7cm

          EQ is about 8

          I do not remember the name of some of the exercises that I do but here is my routine: 100 wet-jelqs at about 70% erection level, 6 squeeses where I count to ten (where you hold a grip at your base and right under your glans, focusing on the CCs.), 6 "mild" Ulis where I just grip at the base, move the grip forward untill I get some decent pressure, then I hold there for 10sec, release and repeat. 5 slinkys downwards and five upwards. Finish with 50 wet-jelqs (same as the first 100).

          So far so good. Great morning wood today and a general feeling of hornyness.

          Great! Keep us updated on your progress!
          May 2006: 5.75" X 4.5" - Now: 7.44" X 4.875"


          Let me tell you the secret that has led me to my goal: my strength lies solely in my tenacity.

          Louis Pasteur

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          • #20
            Originally posted by JonPop View Post
            Sounds good, babbis. What's your days off schedual? Are you warming up and down? Be careful with the (where you hold a grip at your base and right under your glans, focusing on the CCs.) "Horse 440's" it is easy to thrombose a vein. JP
            I do not have a set formula for when to take days off. I will monitor my PIs and my EQ and take off-days based on these. Basically, if I have positive signs, rock hard erections and feel sligthly horny I will do my routine, if EQ goes down, BPFSL goes down and I get a "lazy" penis I will rest untill said factors are positive again.

            Thanks for the warning regarding those "Horse 440`s"! I am a bit afraid of those so I keep the pressure down.

            Iguana, I will log my progress in this thread if it is OK with you guys?

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            • #21
              Hey babbis, please start your own thread in the "Progress Log" Much easier to follow for all of us. Thanks, JP

              I've got a Tiger by the tail.

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              • #22
                Someone just asked me:

                Originally posted by Someone
                Damn! Are there spark notes for this?!!
                I'll try to make it as simple as possible here:

                STEP 1: Find out whether your tunica is the limit or the smooth muscle is the limit. Here's how:

                1) Measure your BPFSL and your BPEL. Find out how much greater your BPFSL is than your BPEL. If it's around .5" or more, it indicates that the smooth muscle is your limit. If it's around .25" or less, it indicates that your tunica is probably your limit.

                2) What's your erection quality like? If you consistently have rock-solid erections and very hard erections, then the tunica is most likely your limit. If your erections are anything but, you'll want to work out your smooth muscle.

                STEP 2: Focus on your limit.

                1) If your smooth muscle is your limit: Adjust your routine so it is mostly girth-based (i.e. clamping, supra slammers, Ulis, and other girth exercises).

                2) If your tunica is your limit: Adjust your routine so it is mostly length-based (i.e. with length exercises, hanging, extenders, jelqs with a low erection level, etc.)

                Hope this helps!
                "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein

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                • #23
                  Please post this to BetterMan. Thanks.
                  Not too much discussion of your theory at BMan, some people are slow to throw out what's comfortable.

                  I've got a Tiger by the tail.

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                  • #24
                    i had 2/10Ths of an inch to get to 8"NBP. something i have been trying to do for months now. Yesturday morning i hit 8"nbp for the first time. I think it may be due to applying this theory. I started implimenting it last Saturday. I did 3 length sessions with only length PE. And i did two ballooning sessions with 8 fingered uli's otherwise known as Supra Slammers. I will continue with this pattern to see if more gains come.


                    For I will restore health unto thee and I will heal thee of thine wounds, saith the Lord Jeremiah 30:17

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by JonPop View Post
                      Please post this to BetterMan. Thanks.
                      Not too much discussion of your theory at BMan, some people are slow to throw out what's comfortable.
                      Done
                      "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein

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                      • #26
                        I have a question. When you say that the penis is X-% smooth muscle, how is that measured? Is that by mass when flaccid, by volume when flaccid, by mass or volume when erect? Is that compared to the mass or volume of the ligaments, nerves, blood vessels, lymph vessels and cartilage, or just compared to some of these things? Are the cadavers penises completely drained of blood before the measurements are taken?

                        I'm just curious. Obviously the take home point is that younger penises and healthier penises have more smooth muscle, but I tend to want to understand exactly how statistics come about.

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                        • #27
                          From my understanding, it is a percentage of tissue mass. It wouldn't make any difference whether it was flaccid or erect.
                          It's compared to collage composition. I think other components such as nerves, blood vessels would be minute in compairson.
                          May 2006: 5.75" X 4.5" - Now: 7.44" X 4.875"


                          Let me tell you the secret that has led me to my goal: my strength lies solely in my tenacity.

                          Louis Pasteur

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                          • #28
                            This is perfect post.Congragulation.
                            What are you guys thinking about this?
                            i am 6.7 erect lenth 4.7 girth and my BDFSL is 6.00 my EQ i think that is around 9 i have 18 years.
                            i don't now what to exercise MY SMOOTH MUSLE or my TUNICA?with my routine i have more strong erection,small girth gains,
                            flaccid gains but i don't have erect lenth gains.I DON't have off days guys.Did you think that i must to have off days?i have just for kegels.pls answer.much love

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                            • #29
                              Great post,

                              You guys are really researching this stuff. It was a very informative read, and it holds for my case. I have to focus on my tunica according to this theory, which was already what I was thinking myself. But your theory puts the scientific background into my intuition.

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                              • #30
                                OK so I have a question...My BPFSL is about .5" greater than my BPEL and my erection quality is a 9.5. I am a newbie to manual PE (I used a traction device for about 7 months prior to finding this site) My current routine is pretty well balanced focusing on both SM and Tunica. Based on this theory, or at least my understanding of it, I am clueless as to what it tells someone in my position as it appears neither the tunica or SM are my limiting factor. What measures should I take to ensure my workouts will produce gains? Is anyone else in this same position and been able to make gains?
                                Start 6/10/08
                                BPEL - 7.375
                                EGM - 4.5625

                                3 Month Goal 9/10/08
                                BPEL - 8 (+.625) +/- 1/4" p/mon
                                EGM - 5 (+.4375) +/- 1/8" p/mon

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