I haven't used PF in months. Blisters and weak suction made me stop using it. Waste of money
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Hey Meatpuller, I've had some blister issues myself. Since people seem to start getting them out of the blue after initially having no problems, my current theory is that blisters are a sign you've outgrown the vacuum bell you're using. I haven't had any issues with loss of suction since my initial adjustment period when I got accustomed to the condoms.Originally posted by Meatpuller View PostI haven't used PF in months. Blisters and weak suction made me stop using it. Waste of money
What kind of PE are you doing now that you've given up on the phallosan?Last edited by pudendal; 11-21-2014, 03:10 PM.
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New Measurement:
I've logged just over 400 hours since my last official measurement, a little less than 2 months ago. During that time I've had several injury breaks so my routine hasn't been as consistent as I'd like. The results are as follows:
bpfsl: about 7.5"
(an increase of about 1/4" from my last measurement and about 1/2" total since starting the phallosan)
bpel: just over 6.75"
(an increase of about 1/8" from my last measurement and about 1/4" total since starting the phallosan)
nbpel: about 6.25"
(an increase of about 1/8" from my last measurement and about 1/4" total since starting the phallosan)
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Peeling Traffic Light Stickers:
I finally got tired of the peeling traffic light stickers and decided to remove them and just draw lines with a sharpie marker on the white posts underneath at the levels where the colored calibrations had been. I was worried that the fragments hanging off the sticker seemed to be getting stuck in the springs and might impact the tension. We'll see if the sharpie marker wears off over time, but for now I feel like it will work better.Last edited by pudendal; 12-04-2014, 06:04 PM.
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Stoked I won one of these and am impatiently waiting for it to arrive, but I can't see how you can wear it outside like others have mentioned in this thread.
I'm guessing it comes down to stretched penis vs body size, but if I pull on mine like the Phallosan would, it almost starts to wrap around my hip. Should be fine for wearing at home, but I can't see how it would work (for me) in public.
Since I also have a X4 I never could wear, I'm tempted to do like some others and maybe combine the two for in-home use, but we'll see when it actually get here.Last edited by Phoenix7672; 12-04-2014, 07:05 PM.Original/Current Stats:
2014-09-01: BPEL 6.8"/NBPEL 6" MEG 5.0", BPFL 5"/NBPFL 4" FG 4.4"
2019-03-16: BPEL 8"/NBPEL 6.75" MEG 5.2", BPFL 6.75"/NBPFL 5.5" FG 4.5"
Goals:
Realistic: BPEL 8.5"/NBPEL 7.5" MEG 5.5"
Optimistic: BPEL 9"/NBPEL 8" MEG 5.75"
Dream: BPEL 10"/NBPEL 9" MEG 6.5"
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Hey Phoenix, congratulations on winning a phallosan! My penis is getting to that length where it starts to "turn the corner" around the hip. I feel like the phallosan is far less conspicuous for public use than traditional rod-based extenders, but since I use the large bell, I can't really get away with wearing it outside the house without a jacket or sweatshirt hanging down to conceal the bulge. For hours when I'm home alone, I often connect the phallosan bell with my rod-based extender as you describe to get a downward stretch and achieve fatigue quicker. Then I switch to the belt if I'm wearing it in public or while I'm sleeping. Good luck with your new system and let me know if you have any questions as you're getting accustomed to using it!Originally posted by Phoenix7672 View PostStoked I won one of these and am impatiently waiting for it to arrive, but I can't see how you can wear it outside like others have mentioned in this thread.
I'm guessing it comes down to stretched penis vs body size, but if I pull on mine like the Phallosan would, it almost starts to wrap around my hip. Should be fine for wearing at home, but I can't see how it would work (for me) in public.
Since I also have a X4 I never could wear, I'm tempted to do like some others and maybe combine the two for in-home use, but we'll see when it actually get here.Last edited by pudendal; 12-04-2014, 10:26 PM.
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Cool I'll have to keep that in mind. My plan really is just to use it at home, plus I live alone, so really it is the perfect time. I know with most rod based extenders total traction time is what matters and I assume the Phallosan is the same? My rough plan now is to wear it for maybe 1-2 hours in the morning when I get up for work, and then 4-6 hours when I get home at the end of the day if I don't have any plans.
In terms of gains, even if I could get an inch EL out of this I'd be extremely happy (already gained around 0.5 from manual stretching) -- that would put me at 8.25x5.1 BP or around 7.25-7.5 NBPEL. Also hoping for some girth as I want at least 5.5 MEG, but I plan to do some manual as well to help that along.
One question I do have -- I know there is the template, but what is your glans girth and flaccid girth and what size condom and bell are you using? Just trying to get a rough idea so I make sure to start with the right one (and hopefully don't prematurely wreck a condom).Original/Current Stats:
2014-09-01: BPEL 6.8"/NBPEL 6" MEG 5.0", BPFL 5"/NBPFL 4" FG 4.4"
2019-03-16: BPEL 8"/NBPEL 6.75" MEG 5.2", BPFL 6.75"/NBPFL 5.5" FG 4.5"
Goals:
Realistic: BPEL 8.5"/NBPEL 7.5" MEG 5.5"
Optimistic: BPEL 9"/NBPEL 8" MEG 5.75"
Dream: BPEL 10"/NBPEL 9" MEG 6.5"
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Yeah, I've gotten about 1/4" of erect gains out of about 1000 hours of phallosan use. I think my long PE history and my inconsistent routine slowed progress. I really believe the concentration of your hours is just as important as the total hours. The more hours you can get in a day the more effective each of those hours become. One hour a day for a thousand days will give you significantly less gains than ten hours a day for a hundred days even though you would have worn the device for the same total of 1000 hours. I also think using my rod extender base to promote fatigue before switching to the belt system has helped to make the hours more productive, while the belt system helps me get in more total hours by being able to wear it in public or to bed. Manual stretching before your phallosan hours might have a similar effect.Originally posted by Phoenix7672 View PostI know with most rod based extenders total traction time is what matters and I assume the Phallosan is the same?
I haven't been keeping track of my girth since I'm currently more interested in length. My glans has a very pronounced coronal ridge, so I have to use the large bell to fit inside, but my shaft has less girth so I use a medium when I'm wearing the phallosan condoms. If you just won your phallosan, it will likely come with the new and improved condoms. I haven't tried them yet, but hopefully they will be less apt to tear.Originally posted by Phoenix7672 View PostOne question I do have -- I know there is the template, but what is your glans girth and flaccid girth and what size condom and bell are you using? Just trying to get a rough idea so I make sure to start with the right one (and hopefully don't prematurely wreck a condom).
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So you only gained 1/4" EL after 1000 hours? I thought the general 'rule' was around 1 inch per 1000 hours of traction? Also my plan is 4-6 hours per day, plus maybe an additional 2 hr block in the mornings each day if I can fit it in before work.Originally posted by pudendal View PostYeah, I've gotten about 1/4" of erect gains out of about 1000 hours of phallosan use. I think my long PE history and my inconsistent routine slowed progress. I really believe the concentration of your hours is just as important as the total hours. The more hours you can get in a day the more effective each of those hours become. One hour a day for a thousand days will give you significantly less gains than ten hours a day for a hundred days even though you would have worn the device for the same total of 1000 hours. I also think using my rod extender base to promote fatigue before switching to the belt system has helped to make the hours more productive, while the belt system helps me get in more total hours by being able to wear it in public or to bed. Manual stretching before your phallosan hours might have a similar effect.
Since I managed to gain a fair amount already from manual with little time, I'm hoping I'm one of the more lucky ones and can get 1-1.5 inches in a year. If I can gain that, I'm essentially at my PE 'goal', and anything beyond that is just gravy for my ego, although I'd love to be between or past 8-9 NBPEL some day.Original/Current Stats:
2014-09-01: BPEL 6.8"/NBPEL 6" MEG 5.0", BPFL 5"/NBPFL 4" FG 4.4"
2019-03-16: BPEL 8"/NBPEL 6.75" MEG 5.2", BPFL 6.75"/NBPFL 5.5" FG 4.5"
Goals:
Realistic: BPEL 8.5"/NBPEL 7.5" MEG 5.5"
Optimistic: BPEL 9"/NBPEL 8" MEG 5.75"
Dream: BPEL 10"/NBPEL 9" MEG 6.5"
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The 1000/inch rule is debated and youll see qutoes from 1000/inch to 2000/inch so i would go for the middle and say 1500. Plus remember everyone is different and that is simply a mean of statistics.Originally posted by Phoenix7672 View PostSo you only gained 1/4" EL after 1000 hours? I thought the general 'rule' was around 1 inch per 1000 hours of traction? Also my plan is 4-6 hours per day, plus maybe an additional 2 hr block in the mornings each day if I can fit it in before work.
Since I managed to gain a fair amount already from manual with little time, I'm hoping I'm one of the more lucky ones and can get 1-1.5 inches in a year. If I can gain that, I'm essentially at my PE 'goal', and anything beyond that is just gravy for my ego, although I'd love to be between or past 8-9 NBPEL some day.
I like you have gained already from extenders but can barely wear it now and using the vlc tugger mod seems to only be growing my foreskin. My phallosan gets here within the next hour and i cannot wait. Im constantly looking out the window to see if its here lol.10/2014 Initial Size
Methods: Vimax Extender Only
NBPEL: 6.5"
EG: 5.5"
11/2014
Methods: Vimax Extender Only
NBPEL: 7"
EG: 5.5"
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Considering gaining with an extender should be a given (if you put in the time), I definitely plan on using it so long as I can wear it without issues. End of the day, as much as I'd like to gain 1-1.5 in a year even if it takes 2 I'm ok with that...I still end up at over 8 BP/7 NBP eventually.
I just wish there was a device clinically proven for girth too...if there was, I'd be waiting on it as well. lolLast edited by Phoenix7672; 12-05-2014, 03:04 PM.Original/Current Stats:
2014-09-01: BPEL 6.8"/NBPEL 6" MEG 5.0", BPFL 5"/NBPFL 4" FG 4.4"
2019-03-16: BPEL 8"/NBPEL 6.75" MEG 5.2", BPFL 6.75"/NBPFL 5.5" FG 4.5"
Goals:
Realistic: BPEL 8.5"/NBPEL 7.5" MEG 5.5"
Optimistic: BPEL 9"/NBPEL 8" MEG 5.75"
Dream: BPEL 10"/NBPEL 9" MEG 6.5"
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Originally posted by Phoenix7672 View PostI thought the general 'rule' was around 1 inch per 1000 hours of traction?I've written about growth rate in some posts earlier in this thread and on my progress log. The average growth rate reported in the Phallosan clinical study works out to around 1625 hours per inch. Maybe this is a little slower than some users see with traditional rod-based extenders, but it's a heck of a lot easier to accumulate the hours with the phallosan than it is with the traditional extenders. This is another reason I like to use both the rod-extender base and the belt system to maximize hours and impact.Originally posted by swavey View PostThe 1000/inch rule is debated and youll see qutoes from 1000/inch to 2000/inch so i would go for the middle and say 1500.
I suspect my growth has been slower because I was already conditioned by years with a rod-extender that got me my first 1/2" gains after months of manual work with no effect and because my routine has been interrupted by breaks from injury and work schedule. Obviously there will be variability between users and hopefully you'll continue to be a fast gainer, Phoenix. If you look at the phallosan growth table thread, other users saw much faster gains than me initially which then plateaued over time. During the 400 hours I logged between my last two measurements since resuming a consistent routine and starting to track my hours in a log, I gained about 1/8" which works out to 400hrs/0.125in = 3200 hours/inch.
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I keep trying to find time for a review and wanted to put more into it but time is short so this review will be as well. I'd had good success with the Andro extender back in 2011. Not long before i started I had sustained an injury caused by some enthusiastic sex. This injury developed into IPP and ultimately ended up with a roughly 40 degree curve and lost about 4 cm in length. I had a hard collar of scar tissue. I tried a number of things Inc massage with vitamin E and a ultrasonic therapy device with limited success. I bought the PF 12 months ago and have logged nearly 2500 hours. The curve is practically gone and I've regained 3 cm of the lost 4. Julian from PF recently went above and beyond to help me out with some problems I'd had. Now looking forward to more progress over the next yearstart 31-3-2011
bpel 13 cm ( 5.11 inch )
bpfsl 14 cm
Girth 13 cm ( 5.11 )
flacid 7.5 cm
31-07-2011
bpel 15 cm ( 5.9 inch )
bpfsl 15 cm
girth 13.5 ( 5.31 inch )
flacid 9.5 cm
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1 inch per 2000 hours appears to be more common.
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