I wasn't ignoring you - I actually wanted to get some additional information on your question to give you the best answer possible.
I talked to one of the Bathmate manufacturers to get his perspective on your question. Here's his response:
"I'd recommend he has a break till the penis goes back to normal and to start slow. Only a few pumps are needed to maintain a vacuum. This will then help draw blood in to the penis.
Please follow our step by step official Bathmate workout regime below.
Recommended Exercise Regime
In order to obtain optimum benefit from your Hydropump and to avoid inappropriate use which may cause discomfort, you are strongly advised to follow the following exercise regime:
• Ensure your pubic area is reasonably well trimmed which will facilitate the vacuum seal against the pelvic seat.
• A relaxation period of approximately 3/5 minutes in a warm shower or bath is required to allow the testicles to soften allowing them to be away from the sealing area for effective pain free use.
• Always ensure the comfort insert is used and correctly aligned as this will reduce the compression to the testicle region and give you all round support.
• Avoid excessively vigorous pumping, this will not give you faster gains in size or girth but may cause discomfort and speckling spots or bruising. Simply take your time to relax and enjoy your Bathmate experience.
• To benefit the most in size gains, erection hardness and optimal blood flow, it is best to remove the device every few minutes allowing the penis to retract. Massage the penis in the flaccid state, then re-apply the device and repeat the process.
• You should do this a maximum of 3 times in any 15 minute session; this will undoubtedly give you the best all-round results in comfort, vascular expansion and size gains.
• Do not use the Hydropump for more than 15 minutes in any period of 24 hours."
I think the biggest take away here is to avoid over-pumping. If you're seeing issues with your skin reacting, take a break and let it heal and then start off, going slow and contained, building up gradually.
Hope that helps!
Harrison
Harrison James
<a href="http://www.bathpump.com">bathpump.com</a>
Official Bathpump.com Rep
It's always great to hear from a satisfied user. For the dedicated pumper, the Xtreme packages for the X30 and X40 are pretty nice. Definitely feel free to ask any questions as you develop your routine. On that note, how do you like the penimaster pro? I've been thinking about extenders lately and was curious how you enjoyed that one?
Cheers,
Harrison
Hi there Harrison,
I'm very pleased with the penimaster Pro, It does (like everything else in PE), have a fairly slow learning curve because everybody seems to gain so differently to everybody else based on time / tension and days of use.
I've recently increased my time wearing it to 8 hours a day, followed by 3 sets of 5 minutes in the Bathmate X40 Extreme. I'm very excited about measuring in a couple of weeks because I'm very sure I'm seeing very obvious visual gains. I have however increased my time in the PMP, and introduced the Bathmate at the same time, so the gains I believe I'm seeing could be one variable, the other or both.
I do have a spread sheet which I use to keep a record of my hours in the PMP, and the Bathmate, but I've also come up with a little theory of my based on some research I done myself; and my theory is that the first three hours extending in the day do not generate gains, it's the fourth hour and afterwards that do. So I have also added a second page to the spreadsheet to record how many hours after the first three that I extend for. Ie, if I wear the PMP for 8 hours, I think it's only the last 5 that count. As a suggestion, I think that wearing the PMP for 12 hours a day, then taking 3 days rest, will still contribute 9 hours towards gains, wearing the PMP for 3 hours a day, for 4 days in a row will bring no gains at all. It's just a theory, and I'm hoping to compare gains with both sets of data (total daily time in the PMP, and daily time after 3 hours in the PMP), and see if there's any correlations. However, introducing the Bathmate at the same time does add a second variable, but if there's an obvious coefficient in the two sets of data I'm hoping that I can eliminate it as the Bathmate's contribution. (I think that it's worth a little bit of my time investigating even if my theory fails). "I have not failed, I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work" - Thomas A. Edison.
Here's the extending notes I use for my PMP, and the sources from where I found them:
The effect of using an extender comes when it is used for more than three hours a day. The optimal time to wear is from 6 to 12 hours daily. After each set (60-120mins) extender should be removed and penis should be massaged in order to restore blood circulation. After a break with massage (usually 5-15mins) extender is put back up for the next set. The defining factor of efficiency is the total time of wearing extender per day, so sets can be separated. Optimal tension for the growth of the penis is considered 400-1150 grams.
How and how long to wear extender: A common question – what if I wear extender 2 hours daily? – has no definite answer. It is an individual case for every man. There are cases showing growth with even an irregular wearing, however, 2-3 hours daily might not cause noticeable growth or there might not even be any growth at all.
The best option is to wear extender for at least 6 hours a day to ensure rapid onset of the growth.
Is it ok to interrupt sets of wearing? Short pauses will not affect the efficiency of the set, but pauses should not be long (more than 5mins) and there should not be many pauses – not more than one per hours.
I hope some of this info is helpful, my theory is just that (a theory), but it does seem very possible based on some of the research above.
Take care mate, and yeah as I said, I'm extremely impressed with the X40 Extreme, I don't go mental with it, I pump until the inner collar of the comfort pad is visible through the clear plastic casing, and then time 5 minutes (I do three sets of this) , and I'm very pleased with the quick results I'm sure I'm gaining.
I'm trying to order a Bathmate but having difficulty ordering from the official website. When I try to order, a verify visa pop-up comes up and asks me to register my card, when I decline to register it says my bank declined the order. Anyone else have to go through this process when ordering their Bathmate?
I'm trying to order a Bathmate but having difficulty ordering from the official website. When I try to order, a verify visa pop-up comes up and asks me to register my card, when I decline to register it says my bank declined the order. Anyone else have to go through this process when ordering their Bathmate?
Any feedback will be helpful.
Thank you
Batman13,
Which website are you having difficulty with? There are a number of approved, officially licensed Bathmate sites, such as bathpump.com (there are probably more total unofficial and knockoff sites). I've double checked with our web team and bathpump.com ordering should be working fine.
Cheers,
Harrison
Harrison James
<a href="http://www.bathpump.com">bathpump.com</a>
Official Bathpump.com Rep
Maybe you could help, I saw this thread yesterday and decided to take the plunge into PE and your product was the first that I wanted to try. So I ordered, and after confirming I saw my address had reverted to an old one saved in my pay pal account (I was purchasing stuff from various sites and apparently the PP had reverted main addresses part way through.)
I immediately sent off an email notifying your company, and when the hours of operation opened I called and left a voice mail since nobody answered. I didn't hear anything back today until after I got the notice the BM was verified for shipping and AJ "Big Al" Alfaro responded that he tried to change the address and asked if I could pick it up there. I responded that I could not (my work and location aren't conducive to watching that home) and after hearing nothing for another hour I tried to call into the shop again and once more had no luck, so I ended up leaving another voice mail.
Just wondering if you guys are that busy today or if I made the wrong company choice since I chose Bathpump due to it appearing to have excellent customer service if there was an issue.
Edit: Never mind, apparently even after everything they chose to send it anyways (not your fault since I don't think you've even had a chance to see this). I'm going to proceed with getting a refund due to the circumstances and I'm cancelling the payment.
I am new to PE. Haven't started, just been reading. I am interested in the Bathmate but have a few questions:
1) should I try PE first with some jelquing for a while before investing?
2) Is the cost of the Bathmate a worthy investment to a PE routine or will I still get good results with just jelquing?
3) Is the Bathmate Xtreme worth the extra money to have the hand pump? Any one have the Xtreme that can attest to that?
Hey Harrison. I have average dick size but I'm greedy and I want to go for x40 Xtreme instead of x30 (I can't afford to upgrade later to x40). The 2 problems with this are 1. x40 would suck my balls in and 2. would my dick get enough suction to get gains ?
The first problem could probably be worked around by adding something to the gaiter like some dude cut a piece from plastic bag and put his dick through that. So my question is the second one, would an average dick get enough suction in x40 Xtreme to make gains?
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