is 7" really above average?

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The theme of this thread was if 7" is above average and if it is as rare as the studies say. It wasn't if it is better to be a good lover than having a big penis, it wasn't what size women prefer, it wasn't if it is better girth than length. I still believe that 7" is above average but not rare. The only thing that the study of those 5000 Chinese men clarify is that ethnicity IS a factor. I am sure that if that study is made in another part of the world the results will be a lot different.

Ethnicity may or may not be a factor . Useing reputable studies; given differences in methodology the results are remarkably similar .
The "ethnic difference " in the chinese study are very minor and given the small number in some ethnic groups not significant .
Of course you get well known scams like the world penis map but leaving that out all studies seem to have similar results like 5 point something for bpel regardless of where in the world they are done.

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Ethnicity may or may not be a factor . Useing reputable studies; given differences in methodology the results are remarkably similar .
The "ethnic difference " in the chinese study are very minor and given the small number in some ethnic groups not significant .
Of course you get well known scams like the world penis map but leaving that out all studies seem to have similar results like 5 point something for bpel regardless of where in the world they are done.

I don't have problems in believing that the average is 5 point something, but I do have problems in believing the supposed rarity of the 7". According to your own stats 1 in 44 have a 7.5" penis (this is a number I can believe) so, if out of 5000 Chinese men 0 have a 7" penis then definitely ethnicity plays a role.

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Frequency in population:
1.752 inches: 1 in 3.5 million
2.577 inches: 1 in 31,574
3.402 inches: 1 in 741
4.227 inches: 1 in 44
5.052 inches: 1 in 6
5.877 inches: 1 in 2
6.702 inches: 1 in 6
7.527 inches: 1 in 44
8.352 inches: 1 in 741
9.177 inches: 1 in 31, 574

Your stats.

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Your stats.

That is one of many I have quoted at various times . So 1 in 44 is not exactly common is my first point .

But the other is that this is based on a fairly large bpel and standard deviation relative to some others a small change in either can result in large chages a couple standard deviations in.

Also the chinese study is based on stretched flacid length not erect length so apples and oranges.


This brings up a good point though while different studies all have similar bpel they can come up with very different results a couple standard deviations in.
I too question 7" being extreamly rare as in one per thousand or the like . But then one doesn't have to be 7ft to be called tall in fact most places 6ft is regarded as tall and that is far more common than a 7in penis.

[Norwaydude Senior Member Member of the Month Oct. 2018 Find all posts View Profile Close Norwaydude]

Your stats.

Where does this Numbers come from? Much easier to believe than many others i have read. But a whole different picture than we usually see...

[Pegasus AdministratorPE Gym EditorPEGym Hero ☺ Admin of the Month Mar 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Pegasus]

Oh god I have used these numbers for some time (as well as others . Do you want me to go back and find what studies they are based on ? I did take a look some time back when I first used them but it was years ago .

The point here is that even if all studies come up with 5 point something bpel a different starting point and different standard deviation will magnify a couple standard deviations in . The effect is that a size which is unusual as in a couple per hundred becomes extraordinary as in one per thousand . So at least in this specific manner there is vary between studies with juice.

So in the graph I posted you would exceed 7" in 2 standard deviations whereas the chinese study would require something like 4 . This would seem to give at least some support to ethnic difference(in a limited context) though again I caution re differences in methodology..

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I'm not even sure if a girl can feel one standard deviation in length unless you're maxing her out. She will definitely notice one standard deviation in girth, both by looking at it, holding it, blowing it, and riding it.
If you have a pencil dick and are 7" long, not many girls will compliment you on length, so overall size or volume of the penis is probably what a girl will notice more than just the length dimension.
Weight wise, a 6x6 will weigh significantly more than a 7x5 and displace a lot more pussy, yet 6" in length is nothing to write home about.
Aside from the outliers, there isn't a lot of variation amount penis sizes when you think about it. Only two inches separates small from large. And a girl's guess at your penis length is accurate within 2" at best.
The bottom line is, 7" is above average. Girls won't notice you're large unless your length is paired with girth, or you're bottoming her out. A girl's experience, pussy size, and preference will vary WAY more than your 1-2" length advantage, so find the girl that thinks you're HUGE.

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Agree with the above comment. Girth is really what makes the difference as far as perception of what is actually big/average. As a dude who sleeps with other dudes, the dicks that always resonated as "big" to me were the ones that were considerably thicker than average (even if they were only 6-7 inches in length).

[Boricua Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Boricua]

Yep, neither I have seen another one in real life (and I don't want to). The only thing that made me believe a little in average numbers was a web page where the user was allowed to put the measures of length an girth and it compared your measures with other users measures. I ranked pretty good on that web page. There were millions of entries so the sample was even better than those of the studies. Unfortunately the web page is no longer available. There is another page that can put size a little bit on perspective. Search in google 5 size penis. There are photos of 5 different penis sizes.

The web page that I mentioned here is up again! I ranked 1,763,364 out of 110,903,415. The numbers are not completely real because I have done it about 7 times in my life and I assume that many people have tried it more than once, but it gives you an idea. You have to do it by length AND girth or it won't work. There was a time when you could do it only by length or girth but not anymore. Search in Google: stack me up penis.

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I'm not even sure if a girl can feel one standard deviation in length unless you're maxing her out. She will definitely notice one standard deviation in girth, both by looking at it, holding it, blowing it, and riding it.
If you have a pencil dick and are 7" long, not many girls will compliment you on length, so overall size or volume of the penis is probably what a girl will notice more than just the length dimension.
Weight wise, a 6x6 will weigh significantly more than a 7x5 and displace a lot more pussy, yet 6" in length is nothing to write home about.
Aside from the outliers, there isn't a lot of variation amount penis sizes when you think about it. Only two inches separates small from large. And a girl's guess at your penis length is accurate within 2" at best.
The bottom line is, 7" is above average. Girls won't notice you're large unless your length is paired with girth, or you're bottoming her out. A girl's experience, pussy size, and preference will vary WAY more than your 1-2" length advantage, so find the girl that thinks you're HUGE.

My pre pe size was 6.75 by 4.75 and I got compliments about my length then . I started geting compliments on girth at 5.25". So not sure but both those are around 1 standard deviation depending on the study .
Umm I only have experience with girls so don't know what guys might think.

[Norwaydude Senior Member Member of the Month Oct. 2018 Find all posts View Profile Close Norwaydude]

Oh god I have used these numbers for some time (as well as others . Do you want me to go back and find what studies they are based on ? I did take a look some time back when I first used them but it was years ago .

The point here is that even if all studies come up with 5 point something bpel a different starting point and different standard deviation will magnify a couple standard deviations in . The effect is that a size which is unusual as in a couple per hundred becomes extraordinary as in one per thousand . So at least in this specific manner there is vary between studies with juice.

So in the graph I posted you would exceed 7" in 2 standard deviations whereas the chinese study would require something like 4 . This would seem to give at least some support to ethnic difference(in a limited context) though again I caution re differences in methodology..

it is just different Numbers than we usually see. So i got courious

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It is based on the Lifestyles Cancun data set .
I seperately having looked at many data sets during my time as a mod was heading in a very similar direction . You can see the long discussion on it if you want.

https://www.pegym.com/forums/gym/820...deviation.html

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Should probably take into consideration fat pad and pubic hair. If your bpel is 7" but fat pad is 1.5", then only 5.5" is showing. Take away another 0.5" for unkempt pubes, and you're down to 5". Girls will not mentally add 2" to your penis to compensate for your fat pad and pubes. A lean guy with strategic manscaping may have 6.75" of usable penis showing, so not all 7" guys will get the same recognition for their size. And then there's EQ, another robber of length...

[Pegasus AdministratorPE Gym EditorPEGym Hero ☺ Admin of the Month Mar 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Pegasus]

Should probably take into consideration fat pad and pubic hair. If your bpel is 7" but fat pad is 1.5", then only 5.5" is showing. Take away another 0.5" for unkempt pubes, and you're down to 5". Girls will not mentally add 2" to your penis to compensate for your fat pad and pubes. A lean guy with strategic manscaping may have 6.75" of usable penis showing, so not all 7" guys will get the same recognition for their size. And then there's EQ, another robber of length...

There is some discussion on that in the link in post 132 . Who knows what may go through an individual girls mind though.

[Boricua Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Boricua]

Should probably take into consideration fat pad and pubic hair. If your bpel is 7" but fat pad is 1.5", then only 5.5" is showing. Take away another 0.5" for unkempt pubes, and you're down to 5". Girls will not mentally add 2" to your penis to compensate for your fat pad and pubes. A lean guy with strategic manscaping may have 6.75" of usable penis showing, so not all 7" guys will get the same recognition for their size. And then there's EQ, another robber of length...

Although someone can have a 1.5" fat pad (or more), I doubt that someone can push a ruler 1.5" through the skin. I doubt that someone can add 1.5" of measurement just pushing the ruler. That is my opinion, if someone here can do it may want to clarify it.