is 7" really above average?

[Hailtotheburrito Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Hailtotheburrito]

Oh yeah as I mentioned in my log I was messing around with a beautiful black girl with huge e tits back in the day and she proudly told me she only fucks 7 inch dicks or larger. I’m assuming this is based on toys. I know this is one example but if you saw this girl you’d start working on that 7 inch dick. . But she thought that was an impressive size so if it’s good enough for her....

[Phoenix7672 Senior Member Member of the Month Oct 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Phoenix7672]

Personally don't think that dildo size study can be directly translated to either NBPEL or BPEL. Sure, they picked around a 6.4" blue cylindrical dildo, but they would have been holding it/touching it, and in that way it would be closer to BPEL as at least part of the fat pad compresses easily.

Also don't forget as bone pressed is largely useable length, they were also choosing what they'd want inside them. Still feel most were actually picking in the 6-7" range, with one nighters being slightly longer and thicker (but still much much less than our ideals here).

[Nightforce Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Nightforce]

One could also postulate that when the women were handling the fake phallus' the length they were perceiving they wanted inside of them was from where they were holding it to the tip, not stuffing the entire dildo inside of them. Maybe a refinement to that study would be to create a base on the models so women would have a reference point. I also think that study would have been quite a bit more useful if it had many more women involved, 75 isn't much of a study group.

However, with all that said including my own speculation, one thing is for sure, those women didn't choose 8" plus or 6"+ girth, they chose very reasonable size penis' which are only slightly above average found by many many penis size studies. Either way you look at it, yes, 7" is quite a bit above average based on just about every study done, even the inherently unreliable "self reported" studies, combined with the blue penis study, at 6.4" max desired length, 7" is still above that.

[Ultimate Burrito Moderator Member of the Month Oct 2017PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Ultimate Burrito]

Having a big dick is standard, what the ladies really love is a big dick with features. For example, I get a lot of comments on how great my upward curve feels but the number one comment I get is how good the thickness of my cock head feels. They say the can feel the ridge of the head everywhere and a few have said that my cock was shaped like their favorite sex toy.

[megastan Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close megastan]

so can we get a poll of cock?
lol
so we can actually track overall progress in this forum since people know how to measure properly and consistently here

we can get a lot better results and a lot more people than those studies selecting random dudes who have no idea what they are doing

[incogneeetoe Moderator Member of the Month Sept 2017*Special Appreciated Moderator Nov. 2021* PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close incogneeetoe]

so can we get a poll of cock?
lol
so we can actually track overall progress in this forum since people know how to measure properly and consistently here

we can get a lot better results and a lot more people than those studies selecting random dudes who have no idea what they are doing

There a re number of related polls in our poll section. I have been going back and bumping them to get newer members to participate.

The way I see it we need a few polls that can be stickied:

Starting Stats
Depth of Fat Pad
Gains
(including Volume?)

The starting stats will give us an idea of average, though the numbers will not really be an accurate reflection of the true population. I am guessing that any reputable academic would look at numbers coming from a site dedicated to PE as being skewed.
these already exist:
https://www.pegym.com/forums/poll-fo...bpel-size.html
https://www.pegym.com/forums/poll-fo...g-pe-bpel.html
https://www.pegym.com/forums/poll-fo...pel-stats.html
https://www.pegym.com/forums/poll-fo...th-inches.html

The fat pad numbers would help differentiate between what people see and the true size. Just from my own perspective I often see numbers that seem to be wild: 1 inch, 2 inch...my fat pad is less than 1/4 inch, so I really do wonder. There many:
https://www.pegym.com/forums/poll-fo...ur-fatpad.html
https://www.pegym.com/forums/poll-fo...r-fat-pad.html
https://www.pegym.com/forums/poll-fo...pel-nbpel.html

The gains would show if it works. Of course it will be skewed, but it's just for us, so just gives us an idea. There are a lot of "gain" polls, but they are often limited to "one year", or "first 3 months" type things, here are a couple that are not:
https://www.pegym.com/forums/poll-fo...in-survey.html
https://www.pegym.com/forums/poll-fo...ou-gained.html

I like the idea of volume as it gives a more impressive demonstration of overall gains:
https://www.pegym.com/forums/poll-fo...alculator.html
https://www.pegym.com/forums/poll-fo...ur-volume.html
https://www.pegym.com/forums/poll-fo...check-out.html

Maybe we all agree to a poll and encourage all new members to do at join?

[Pegasus AdministratorPE Gym EditorPEGym Hero ☺ Admin of the Month Mar 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Pegasus]

I don't know how anyone gets accuracy with this.

[solidlength Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close solidlength]

I think there is a certain amount of psychology associated with this. Psychology in that you are accustomed to your own size as you probably see it on a daily basis vs other penises in the world. So you probably see yourself as being 'average' (regardless of size) and every other penis out of band with yours as being smaller or larger.

My SO is a healthcare provider and sees quite a few penises. She has always countered my "I'm average" (6.5" BPEL, 6" EG) statement with "ummm no you're not". I'm also a grower not a shower so sometimes I see those showers as "Jesus Christ! When they're erect they must be huge." Thanks to this site, I've come to the understanding that that idea is not necessarily true.

As pointed out, the porn industry has also not helped with average dick size image. By using optics and preferring petite women for roles they paint the picture that all men in the porn industry have 10" penises. This is just simply not true or physiologically possible. A good read that I found here on penis size was this: https://unravelingsize.wordpress.com/ Having met pornstars IRL, I can verify that for the most part they are small.

[megastan Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close megastan]

I feel like a lot of those articles are written to make small penis dudes feel less uncomfortable.
i mean before i started i was at least 6.5x5" and i never had anyone say that its above average.

i think we have two extremes here. porn industry that claims 10 inch dicks vs people who claim that average dick size is smaller than it actually is

to me i would say 6-6.5 inches is more of an average than 5.5

[Pegasus AdministratorPE Gym EditorPEGym Hero ☺ Admin of the Month Mar 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Pegasus]

I feel like a lot of those articles are written to make small penis dudes feel less uncomfortable.
i mean before i started i was at least 6.5x5" and i never had anyone say that its above average.

i think we have two extremes here. porn industry that claims 10 inch dicks vs people who claim that average dick size is smaller than it actually is

to me i would say 6-6.5 inches is more of an average than 5.5

Uhuh a world wide conspiracy theory involving countless researchers , condom companies yada yada yada if you think that makes sense go for it .

[Big Al AdministratorPEGym EditorMale Enhancement Coach Rep.PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Big Al]

...to me i would say 6-6.5 inches is more of an average than 5.5

What do you base this on?

[solidlength Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close solidlength]

to me i would say 6-6.5 inches is more of an average than 5.5

Ah! The good old no evidence, internet shout box claim.

Also, just to point out 6 inches is half an inch more than what is proven through research to be average. I can vary a half inch based on my EQ.

[Snowboy Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Snowboy]

i be thinkin this same thing cause at 7.5 inches all I want is to be a true 8 incher

[Azmike Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Azmike]

I reject all self-reported studies of penis size. Just too much temptation to lie and no controls. The most exhaustive analysis of all scientific studies that did not include self-measuring is summarized as follows:

"Finally, a study which may lay to rest some of the lingering fallacies about penis size and alleviate the woes shared by many men worldwide. According to new research, the average erect penis length is just over 13 centimeters, or around 5 inches. Furthermore, there’s no strong association between foot size and penis length, so women can stop judging men by the size of their shoes. You can read the entire study in BJU International.Although many compare themselves to the “average” penis size, what this figure actually is has been surprisingly difficult to determine. As pointed out by Science, that’s mainly because most studies have relied on self-reporting, which isn’t very accurate. To get around this problem and obtain a more reliable data set, a team of U.K. researchers decided to compile measurements taken by health professionals who followed a standardized measuring procedure. They included both girth (the circumference at the base or the middle) and length (pubic bone to the tip of the glans) measurements from 20 different studies, which totaled 15,521 men from various countries across the world. And the results will be music to the ears of many.
The average flaccid penis was found to be 9.16 cm (3.61 inches) long, whereas the average erect penis is 13.12 cm (5.16 inches) in length. In terms of girth, the average circumference of a flaccid penis turned out to be 9.31 cm (3.66 inches), and 11.66 cm (4.59 inches) for an erect one. Furthermore, those at extreme ends of the spectrum were found to be much less common. For example, only 5 men out of every 100 have an erect penis longer than 16 cm (6.3 inches).
When they looked for correlations with other body features, such as testicular size, weight or foot size, no strong or consistent associations were found. Although they couldn’t find any significant evidence for a relationship between penis size and race, they note that conclusions can’t be drawn since the vast majority of measurements were from Caucasians.
So what’s the take home message? Men, don’t be so hard on yourself as what you see on the TV or in magazines is not an accurate representation of the average penis. But if you’re concerned, make sure you’re measuring correctly"

[Meretricious Fandangle Member Find all posts View Profile Close Meretricious Fandangle]

Clearly 7 isn't really above average. I would say the averages are probably closer to 8 or 9 inches but the researchers have to lie. Why? Can you imagine the impact it would have on society if a lot of men found out the real averages? People would lose their jobs once their confidence diminishes, suicide rates would skyrocket and society would just collapse. No, 5 inches is safe. The truth is just too risky!!