is 7" really above average?

[BigKnob Senior Member Member of the Month Nov 2019 Find all posts View Profile Close BigKnob]

I think you also over-estimate the importance of a muscular body to women.

Yes and no, i was tall and skinny before training for 2-3 years and i can clearly see a difference in girls attraction to me from then to now. it doesnt necessarily help in a relationship in the long run but getting a girl from a party etc. to my bedroom requires far less effort now

[Johnny D ModeratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Johnny D]

Not knowing how you looked, perhaps you were unattractively skinny?? For many (most?) women, an extremely skinny guy might be unattractive just as an extremely fat guy might be. So just don't be unattractive. But the muscular body isn't really such a big factor. According to my wife and ex, anyway. And I believe there are also some studies that suggest the same.

[Phoenix7672 Senior Member Member of the Month Oct 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Phoenix7672]

10" penis. Come on, that is so rare. Makes me LOL when I see the ex had a 10" dick stories. There's probably only a few thousand men on the planet with a johnson that big! Damn near the size of a friggin ruler!

Well BDP did just run a survey/poll the other day and before it got shut down there was one guy who was 66" in length. Granted he was 480ish years old, so if he did PE that's a lot of time to gain that much length, even if he didn't start until he was 200...

[BigKnob Senior Member Member of the Month Nov 2019 Find all posts View Profile Close BigKnob]

Not knowing how you looked, perhaps you were unattractively skinny?? For many (most?) women, an extremely skinny guy might be unattractive just as an extremely fat guy might be. So just don't be unattractive. But the muscular body isn't really such a big factor. According to my wife and ex, anyway. And I believe there are also some studies that suggest the same.

i was an average skinny dude with decent looking face, i still got girls attention from my face alone and personality, but the difference from then and now is big. i have a friend who experienced the same except he was a bit overweight before instead. but yes it doesnt mean that all girls prefer muscular men but denying the fact that a lot of girls do is just naive. big factor or not, depends on the girl and their preferences

[Phoenix7672 Senior Member Member of the Month Oct 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Phoenix7672]

i was an average skinny dude with decent looking face, i still got girls attention from my face alone and personality, but the difference from then and now is big. i have a friend who experienced the same except he was a bit overweight before instead. but yes it doesnt mean that all girls prefer muscular men but denying the fact that a lot of girls do is just naive. big factor or not, depends on the girl and their preferences

Face and personality would matter more. I wasn't blessed above the neck, and no matter what shape I am in it is always an uphill battle that typically goes nowhere. The few that do I need enough time to have them get to know me a little and my personality, but that doesn't help in terms of instant rejections based on looks alone.

[Johnny D ModeratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Johnny D]

i was an average skinny dude with decent looking face, i still got girls attention from my face alone and personality, but the difference from then and now is big. i have a friend who experienced the same except he was a bit overweight before instead. but yes it doesnt mean that all girls prefer muscular men but denying the fact that a lot of girls do is just naive. big factor or not, depends on the girl and their preferences

Yes. Sure, for some. Just like for some girls, length is a plus. But that's rare and that's what I was responding to. You said that girls drool over a muscular body and compared it to their desire for length. I'm saying that, by and large, that's just not the case. Some will respond positively, of course, but to most it's not as significant as you think it is.

You asked, why do you think men spend so much time in the gym (or something like that) and the answer is that they do because they think it's important. On average, women wouldn't agree. It's men who respond to the superficial more and put so much weight on it as an important factor. So they're looking at it through their own lens and assuming that women also must think that a great body is a priority. Same with penis length - men see that as a significant factor but women really don't. Not on average.

[Ultimate Burrito Moderator Member of the Month Oct 2017PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Ultimate Burrito]

Girls are going to be attracted to many other things about you (looks, personality, etc ) before they see your cock. If she sees gets to the point where she sees your cock, chances are you've already won. From there display confidence regardless of what your packing and you're gold.

Walking up to a girl and telling her, "hey, I got a big cock, wanna fuck?" Never really works often. She'll see you as self focused and probably lousy in bed and conceited because that is what you are telling her is your strongest selling point.

[megastan Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close megastan]

no but girls notice the bulge...
just like dudes check out features besides her face girls check out the bulge a lot more than guys think.
they don't get caught because they got much better peripheral vision and don't have to stare at it directly
but when you see the girls pausing in the area for just that extra second with a confused look on their face that's their way of staring without getting noticed. so they usually say something like( WHAT? I was thinking about something...)

[Phoenix7672 Senior Member Member of the Month Oct 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Phoenix7672]

I'm pretty sure most only look for a bulge if they like your face, height, and overall build. If you don't check those boxes completely, then they don't look down.

[sir-vix-a-lot Member Find all posts View Profile Close sir-vix-a-lot]

I just came across a site called 7orbetter. It's a dating site for women to find well-endowed men. So there you have it; 7" is where well-endowed begins.

[Going411x7 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Going411x7]

Here is my take: females respond to a guy with a big smile, well groomed, and confident, who treats them with respect. If working out at the gym, or working on making his cock
longer and thicker, gives him more confidence, so be it. A good income is always a plus. Last comes his bulge, which many females just naturally check out. My experience has been that thicker is better than longer, and that most p.e. exercises,with or without "gadgets," will result in a larger girth for most men. Girth is where it's at, guys. Most women want to feel "filled up," and that comes from a larger girth.

But there are so many ways to please a woman, sexually. In an open and honest relationship, the woman will let you know how to please her; so focus on her and"tune in" to her sexual needs.

p.s. My tongue and lips worked best in bringing my lady to orgasm.

[Pegasus AdministratorPE Gym EditorPEGym Hero ☺ Admin of the Month Mar 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Pegasus]

What is the the first question a woman asks ? Is it how fat is your cock ? Is it how long is your cock ? Can you fuck for an hour.? Is it do you have a good set of abs ? Is it can you flex your chest for me ?

No. Hmm bet it is some variant of a money/status question.

So for instance the number 1 status money question is "What do you do ? " So this gets direct to income education and the like a good solid money status question and so mainstream it is regarded as normal . If a guy asked the equevilant "Do you go like a threshing machine in bed "it would be uncouth.
Of course lots of others about where you live went to school yadayada and they will be checking the car you drive etc etc .

[Ultimate Burrito Moderator Member of the Month Oct 2017PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Ultimate Burrito]

Truck man, I drive a truck.

[Johnny D ModeratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Johnny D]

Women don't notice the bulge unless it's something out of the ordinary (and then they're just thinking, "eww"). They aren't checking out bulges - ask them. I have and the answer is always the same; "Never". It's just a male misconception that's made from viewing the world through our own lenses. Men check out women's body parts and are turned on by them so assume that the same must be true of women. Perhaps your partner might be turned on by your package but that's because you're attached to it. They're not turned on by, or even interested in looking at, other guy's packages. Perhaps there's a woman or two out there as the exception to this, but they'd be a very rare exception. If a good looking woman shows you her tits, you'll be turned on almost instantly. If you show a woman your dick, you'll be kicked in the sack and subsequently put in cuffs. The things that make men tick just aren't the same with women. The belief that women are checking out bulges is a man's mistaken fantasy. Sorry.

[Hailtotheburrito Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Hailtotheburrito]

Going by that previous mentioned study where women held the fake dick. They picked 6.4 inches for a one night stand and 6.3 for long term. Basically the same thing. But this would equate to 7-7.4 BPEL assuming a .5 to 1 inch fat pad because some of our dick is hidden from view when we bone pressed measure. So I think a goal of 7.4 ish BPEL would be considered ideal if this study translates to what they like. So assuming what they like is above average the girl will be happy to see you if you can bone press this much just like they probably giggled and smiled when fondling the fake dicks.
This would seem to corroborate what ultimate burrito has experienced during his escapades . And it probably won’t matter to me because I’m going big or I’m going home!