My pre e diary. Make it simple.

[Anklepain Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Anklepain]

Thanks Anthony.

I did thomas test and I dont have APT.

But im 100% sure I have weak adductor/inner thight/inner quads. My IT Bands are huge compare to my inne thigh. I dont even see my inner thigh muscles. There are no muscle on my inner thighs. They are weak and small/none.

Always, when you stretch some muscle which are very tight, workout the muscles in the opposite side.

Pigeon pose for stretching, and honestly for working out inner thigh there are loads of moves.

I agree with you on this. I have had exprience this phenomenom in chest and upper back muscles.

What do you mean by there are loads of moves in inner thigh? Im planning to keep things simple and working out my inner thighs with adductor machine.

[Anthony Gerio N Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Anthony Gerio N]

Search on youtube, Soma squats, leg extensions, towel leg out, clams, etc. Start with body weight and do them everyday, at this stage it is a corrective excelsis for and doing it 2 times per day something around 5-10 mins is recommended.
Do you have pronated feet as well?

[Anklepain Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Anklepain]

Yes, I have overpronated feet. Wtf, how do you know all this?

Im going to add inner thingh workout immedidly!

How long does it takes for me to get about 4min real sex result from inner thigh workout exersice? I know everybody is different but just tell me some directional answer. Its ok if the answer "goes wrong". No problem.

Little bit info about exersices I have done in terms of muscle balance:
-super alot of IT Band stretching & foamroll
-super alot of quad stretching & foam roll
-super alot of hamstring stretching
-medium alot of inner thight stretching & foamroll
-super alot of shin stretching & foamroll
-super alot of calves streching & foamroll
-super alot of belly stretching
-super alot of chest stretching
-medium alot lower back stretching (new for me, havent tryi in real sex after this exersice yet)

-little bit of hamstring workout
-medium alot of belly workout
-little bit of upper belly workout
-medium alot of lower back workout
-medium alot of upper back workout

[Anthony Gerio N Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Anthony Gerio N]

These are very common roots of muscle dysfunctions, you can see them in medical journals frequently.

My suggestions regarding your routine:
Little bit info about exersices I have done in terms of muscle balance:
-super alot of IT Band stretching & foamroll (Continue this daily, 1 day rest in week)
-super alot of quad stretching & foam roll (Limit this one, 2 to 3 days per week, 30-45 secs on each muscle)
-super alot of hamstring stretching (Limit this one, 1 to 2 days per week, 45-60 secs on each leg)
-medium alot of inner thight stretching & foamroll (Limit to 1 to 2 days per week, no foam rolling, medium level stretch for blood circulation).
-super alot of shin stretching & foamroll (If I were you, wouldn't do this).
-super alot of calves streching & foamroll (I'm not sure how you do this, but if it stretches anterior Tibialis)
-super alot of belly stretching( 1 to 2 days per week for blood circulation, and search for internal obliques stretching and do that everyday)
-super alot of chest stretching (Continue this, as you probably have rounded shoulders)
-medium alot lower back stretching (new for me, havent tryi in real sex after this exersice yet) (continue all the spinal extension moves, lower, upper back)

-little bit of hamstring workout (one leg romanian deadlift + plus glute ham raises, twice per week, 3 sets each time).
-medium alot of belly workout (Even more, concentrate on using abs and TVA instead of flexors for movement)
-little bit of upper belly workout (each layer of ab is one muscle, if you work out abs, all get training, old believe that each pack is a separated muscles)
-medium alot of lower back workout (change this to upper back workout)
-medium alot of upper back workout (well, continue).
--- Where is glute workout, Glute medius, Glute Maximus, even more important than abs, add them to days you do hamstring workout and inner thigh overload workout.
--- You most probably need posterior Tibialis workout as well. Ankle stability.
--- Stretching hip flexors 3 to 4 times a week is missing, 2-3 sets of 30s twice a day.

I really have no idea how long this takes, I say minimum of 2 months for you to feel difference in your PF. It's normally 2 -3 weeks activation of muscle, 4-6 week for 8 to 12% of muscle development which is normally needed for changes of body mechanics.

[Anklepain Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Anklepain]

Hi Anthony,

Was your Pre E cured only by fixing muscle imbalance?

Or does fixing muscle imbalance helps you to RK more easily/naturally and therefore it fix your Pre E in that way?

Do you RK during sex or out of sex at all?

[Anthony Gerio N Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Anthony Gerio N]

Hi Anthony,

Was your Pre E cured only by fixing muscle imbalance?

Or does fixing muscle imbalance helps you to RK more easily/naturally and therefore it fix your Pre E in that way?

Do you RK during sex or out of sex at all?

I can say fixing imbalances fixed my PreE. I did a lots of RKs at a point, but they are not really necessary. It is important to learn to do them and how it feels. When you balance the body, you feel your PF is developed. You feel now you can relax and keep it down, not necessary by that concept of balloon opening. Right now in sex I just am aware to not contract it and you can play with it.
Right now, I maybe after a long time of sitting, do a RK or two for 5 secs.

It is so muscle balance reliant, that even now that my PF works perfectly in the most of the positions in one condition I have issues. The arches of my feet are not fully developed (fixing it), they are there and more compare to a year ago, but not a perfect arch. So, when my feet are uneven, i.e. one on the ground and the other on the bed for example, again I observe my PF starts to acting due to incomplete body mechanics which can not fully tolerate the dynamic load on one leg.

However, in short term while you are training and have not reached a good point, a total 10-20% RK can help you in sex (forget about front back etc. if you ask me).

[Anklepain Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Anklepain]

I just notice yesterday that everytime I over straighthening my middle back, I can RK easily/naturally without effort. Also the PF stay down when my middle back is in over straight position. Also I can RK while walking wich was impossible for me before. I have done middle back exersice 2 day now, lets see what happen. Do you have same exprience?


Inner thigh workout didnt helps me keep the PF down or relax. I have done sumo squad 200 reps/day for 4 day now.

[Anthony Gerio N Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Anthony Gerio N]

HAHA, come on man, you did a training for 4 days and expect it work? I suggest you read some on how a muscle develops, how you work it out it breaks and initially get destroyed but it is rebuilt stronger after. etc.

[Anklepain Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Anklepain]

I just had sex last night. Furst time I came when I was fingering her. I came in 2 min at second time. The third time I last as long as I want but decide to cum in her mouth. 4 time was in the morning sex I came in 10min, because in the last minutes she start to moaning more and more.

[Everyman Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Everyman]

Morning sex after good night's sleep is actually the 1st time sex (not the 4th time) of the day. And it was 10 min. So it's definitely a progress. Congratulations!

I followed your complete log and it's a great inspiration for me to never give up. What do you think made the difference that you did better in morning that at night? Please think over it. It might give some clue. Then don't forget to share that with us. Thanks. Take care.

[Anklepain Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Anklepain]

Morning sex after good night's sleep is actually the 1st time sex (not the 4th time) of the day. And it was 10 min. So it's definitely a progress. Congratulations!

I followed your complete log and it's a great inspiration for me to never give up. What do you think made the difference that you did better in morning that at night? Please think over it. It might give some clue. Then don't forget to share that with us. Thanks. Take care.

Hehe, thanks for noticing this succes for me. I didnt realize it was 10min success because I have been ejaculating alot in a short time.

I took 1 tablet of motifene dual at 2am and at12pm I had "morning" sex. It was 10 hour between sex and taking that tablet. I hope this is not the case because im not into drugs at all. Motifene dual drug is for joint pain or something. I took it because she didnt have Burana or Paradol for my headache.

Otherwise I had been training my hamstring, adductor, middle back and upper back. I hope the 10min success come from these or one of these exersices. But the contradicting thing in this theory is I cum from just by fingering her last night. And the 10min success was this morning. One potential theory is my (hamstring, adductor and back) muscles were tired from wourkout thats why I failed in bed. And this morning the muscles were healed from workout because of good sleeping thats why I had 10min success.

[Boricua Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Boricua]

Maybe you are like them:

https://www.pegym.com/forums/prematu...t-morning.html

https://www.pegym.com/forums/prematu...r-morning.html

[Anklepain Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Anklepain]

Maybe you are like them:

https://www.pegym.com/forums/prematu...t-morning.html

https://www.pegym.com/forums/prematu...r-morning.html

Normally my Pre E is the worsts at the morning. I dont know what happened this time.

It was the first time in my life, slept totally naked. I always sleep clothes on normally. Can this be the reason for my 10min success? Nah, I dont believe.

Also there is possibility that I slept on my side because her bed is just little bit too small for 2 person. And this side sleeping position was my first time also. I always sleep on my back normally.

[Everyman Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Everyman]

Hello Anklepain! From your last three posts about your last sexual encounter a few conclusions can be made.

1. Tired muscle, sleeping naked, side sleeping or ejaculation before sex - these things do not explain this morning stamina IMHO. Tired muscle cannot be blamed because then you cannot explain your 3rd time sex at night when you felt like going forever.

2. You are sure to have arousal issue. If I remember correctly, you can masturbate with pron for long time. Then it is the very act of experiencing a real female body that kicks your rapid arousal. This explains your cumming during fingering.

3 You success at the 3rd time at night and then success in the morning means one thing only. The longer you are 'in touch' with your GF, the longer you tend to last.

4. Unlike earlier times your stamina was better this morning. Because you were 'in touch' since last night. AND because you have already put yourself and your PF in the right path. So whatever routine you are following currently, stick to that and follow that consistently.

Being a PreE sufferer myself, I have simply no right to give you any advice. Anyway, regarding fingering have you ever tried to put yourself in a pose that your body may find challenging to maintain (while fingering or oral - I mean)?

Congratulations again! Please don't undermine a 10 min success because clock seems to tick rapidly inside a vagina!

Thank you. Take care.

[Anklepain Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Anklepain]

1. Yes you are right. I already cum 2 time so the third time is normally last longer.

2. Yes I have arrousal issue. Alcohol, cannabis or PYT doesnt help my pre E.

3. Im not sure about this. I have been longer with the girl before but nothing change. Also this doenst explain all other guys situation that they are living and sleeping with their wife for many years and still suffering from Pre E.

4. Im not sure what do you mean by this

5. Yes, it was challenging pose for me when I was fingering her.

6. One thing I forget to mention. I put my penis on the 40% vodka after the second ejaculation. I did this because that intercouse was the first time I had sex without condom in 4 years. I was thinking to clean my dick from potential bacteria or viruseswith the vodka. I really hope this is the reason I can last longer. But somehow I have strong feeling that my success was because I already ejaculate many time in short of time. Im going to tryi this "drunk penis" sex next time again.

PS. For my followers. Can someone tryi if putting vodka on the penis could make you last longer. Put your penis into a cup with full of vodka for 2min and then have sex. Dont wash it off. I can tryi this the next week.