My pre e diary. Make it simple.

[andrewvi7 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close andrewvi7]

1. Yes you are right. I already cum 2 time so the third time is normally last longer.

2. Yes I have arrousal issue. Alcohol, cannabis or PYT doesnt help my pre E.

3. Im not sure about this. I have been longer with the girl before but nothing change. Also this doenst explain all other guys situation that they are living and sleeping with their wife for many years and still suffering from Pre E.

4. Im not sure what do you mean by this

5. Yes, it was challenging pose for me when I was fingering her.

6. One thing I forget to mention. I put my penis on the 40% vodka after the second ejaculation. I did this because that intercouse was the first time I had sex without condom in 4 years. I was thinking to clean my dick from potential bacteria or viruseswith the vodka. I really hope this is the reason I can last longer. But somehow I have strong feeling that my success was because I already ejaculate many time in short of time. Im going to tryi this "drunk penis" sex next time again.

PS. For my followers. Can someone tryi if putting vodka on the penis could make you last longer. Put your penis into a cup with full of vodka for 2min and then have sex. Dont wash it off. I can tryi this the next week.

LOL - did your penis not burn like fire with it dipped in vodka? hahahahah. Get your woman drunk from just sucking your dick

On a more serious note, if you can't last with a fleshlight for example, then it's a physical issue, if you can last with a fleshlight, it's not a physical issue. It takes the emotions out of the equation.

I've had a few times where i've felt ejaculation being triggered while going down on the girl too. Most of the time i think it was just because i forgot to breathe correctly - breathing into your chest instead of breathing into your abdomen.

In terms of morning sex, it's quite common to last longer in the mornings especially if you've had sex the night before.

[Anklepain Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Anklepain]

Hehe! No, it didnt burn at all. It burned my testicle litle bit because some vodka drop dropped on testicle.

I dont last with Fleshlight + Porn. I have never tried Fleshlight without porn. Should I?

By the way, what do you think about upper back workout relation to pelvic floor? I feel the push out on my anus after upper back workout. This had happened 2-3 times now. My whole back is super week. My chest is super strong and I already stretch it more than alot.

I have been workout hamstring, adductors and glutes lately but never felt the push on my anus. I know its early to say anything but comparing to upper back workout I felt the push on my anus from day one.

[andrewvi7 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close andrewvi7]

Hehe! No, it didnt burn at all. It burned my testicle litle bit because some vodka drop dropped on testicle.

I dont last with Fleshlight + Porn. I have never tried Fleshlight without porn. Should I?

By the way, what do you think about upper back workout relation to pelvic floor? I feel the push out on my anus after upper back workout. This had happened 2-3 times now. My whole back is super week. My chest is super strong and I already stretch it more than alot.

I have been workout hamstring, adductors and glutes lately but never felt the push on my anus. I know its early to say anything but comparing to upper back workout I felt the push on my anus from day one.

Vodka on the tip could of been responsible for you lasting longer, spirits do act as a numbing agent of sorts. But my money is on the fact it was round 2.

At the end of the day, the body is all connected, where one issue can spiral out and affect other body parts and create other issues. Saying that though, I doubt it's that far off from the root issue which is your ejaculation reflex.

I'd also suggest having a look at your ischiocavernosus muscles, unlike most pelvic floor muscles, they are located on the outside of your pelvis and are directly accessible for massaging. These muscles could be the issue as from my understanding, they are the ones that produce IKs. So question time, how is your EQ at the minute? I'm not sure if these muscles can be too tight, but they can certainly be too weak, maybe strong enough to still produce somewhat of an erection, but maybe once a bit of arousal and good stimulation kick in, the demand on IC is too high for it to handle and it starts spazzing out = IK contractions.

I'd be cautious on trying out towel raises for anyone with PE, but it doesn't sound like you can get any worse at the minute. What you could try is 1 strong front kegel to raise the towel, and straight away, a single powerful front RK. Never just contract and relax - contract and push out to stretch as far as you can. If your involving any sort of kegels, id suggest doing rks in between so you don't start massively tightening up the rest of you pelvic floor in the process.

My two cents for you

[Anklepain Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Anklepain]

At the end of the day, the body is all connected, where one issue can spiral out and affect other body parts and create other issues. Saying that though, I doubt it's that far off from the root issue which is your ejaculation reflex.

My argument is: upper back workout straigthening my posture therefore I can breath better and when inhaling the air push down towards pelvic floor. This is the first time in my life my pelvic floor stay down when doing day to day life. I have done this upper back workout for 4 days only.

I'd also suggest having a look at your ischiocavernosus muscles, unlike most pelvic floor muscles, they are located on the outside of your pelvis and are directly accessible for massaging. These muscles could be the issue as from my understanding, they are the ones that produce IKs. So question time, how is your EQ at the minute? I'm not sure if these muscles can be too tight, but they can certainly be too weak, maybe strong enough to still produce somewhat of an erection, but maybe once a bit of arousal and good stimulation kick in, the demand on IC is too high for it to handle and it starts spazzing out = IK contractions.

My EQ is 110%. I can stay 100% hard after first ejaculation and continue without break. I had massage this ischiocavernosus muscles area before without any success. Sure I can tryi it again.

I'd be cautious on trying out towel raises for anyone with PE, but it doesn't sound like you can get any worse at the minute. What you could try is 1 strong front kegel to raise the towel, and straight away, a single powerful front RK. Never just contract and relax - contract and push out to stretch as far as you can. If your involving any sort of kegels, id suggest doing rks in between so you don't start massively tightening up the rest of you pelvic floor in the process.

Im not sure I have the courage to do kegel exersices. Especially when I dont have EQ problem at all. I can tryi this exersice after all the other exersice doesnt work.

[Benny Member Find all posts View Profile Close Benny]

Have you tried using a tennis ball? Take a tennis ball and place it far up, I usually place it as close to my anus as possible(its a little uncomfortable); then I let it chill for a bit (sitting) then I move it up all the way until its so far up it isn't providing anymore pressure. I noticed this helps me in edging, haven't had the chance to try during sex.

[Anklepain Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Anklepain]

Oh my fucking god! I think I have posterior pelvic tilt.

Look at this video at 0:30

https://youtu.be/Jq2VNdDrH2w

This is the exactly how I have been sitting my whole life (school, work, gaming, tv, bus, car, eating etic..)

This is why I felt easier to RK when tilting my butt. It is like impossiple for me to do RK after good abs workout.

Ok, luckily I already know what is:
-the best lower back workout for me
-the best hamstring stretches for me
-the best glutes stretches for me

I now only need to find the best way to strengthening my hip flexor. Thats all.

[Anthony Gerio N Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Anthony Gerio N]

It is not professional to say something without examining someone close or seeing him, but from whatever you've have said up to now, I am convinced you do not have Posterior Pelvic tilt. Slouching doesn't necessarily results in PPt. Be very careful where you are going.

[Anklepain Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Anklepain]

I dont believe I have APT either. I already do the thomas test and also seeing my posture from mirror. Every workout that are contradicting with APT workout would made RK more easier for me. And Abs workout would make my PF feel super tight from day one. After stretching my belly I can RK easier again. Dont get me wrong, im not saying abs workout is useless. I just want to put MORE time and effort on doing right things in terms of curing Pre E.

Regardless of APT or PPT, my WHOLE back is super weak. When I was young I did way more abdominal crunch than average draftee at the army fitness test. I also remember I had a slightly natural 6 back when I was kid till 14 yo.

Maybe APT or PPT doesnt have any fuction on PreE. Maybe I just need to workout all the muscles that are week and stretch all the muscles that are tight regardless of APT or PPT. Even though I respect you and andrewii7 for helping me but I also need to feel my body on how they react to each workout. This doesn't mean I dont want your help anymore. You guys are always welcome to my thread for helping or commenting.

[Anthony Gerio N Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Anthony Gerio N]

APT and PPT have impact on PreE. But you have a kind of a mixed situation (not a mixed of APT and PPT).

Firstly, I told you this before, never judge the situation right after you've done a workout or the day after or the week after. Muscles react to stimulations differently.

You mentioned something very very big, the balance between the adductors to TFLs is very in favour of the TFL side (TFL + outer quad VS inner quad + adductors). This should be addressed with very high priority and not until it is addressed the result of the rest of your stretches are going down the toilet. When feet prone, automatically you go to a APT position in standing position without iliopsoas being tight. Train that inner part of your quads.
Look at the Copenhagen adductor exercise.
Telling again, if your adductor muscles are weak, you'll end up with both weak and tight glute Medius, and the hamstring glute connection happens very weakly.

In a different note, that knee pronation, affects the upper and middle back as well. You have a degree of movement in your Sin Cos plate when walking and if the knee are locked out of weakness, your brain also locks down your upper spinal movement to protect the spine, it causes problems there.

[Anklepain Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Anklepain]

I just had sex again. I have been seeing this girl 4 weeks now. She is okay with my Pre E. I have talked to her about my Pre E 3 different time now. So, talking does not help in my case. Last night I ejaculated 3 time. This morning I ejaculated 2 time.

1. First ejaculation was in 1 minute sex in shower (standing).

2. Second ejaculation was when I fingering her (sitting leg straight)

3. Third ejaculation was about 10min.

4. Fourth ejaculation was about 10min (morning first)

5. Fifth ejaculation was about 15 min (morning second)

What exersice I have done lately:
-Super alot upper back work out
-Super alot lower back work out
-Super alot abs stretch
-litle bit hip flexor workout and stretch

Noticements:
- Missionary. When my legs are straight and my insteps are in contact with the bed and my feet pointing inwards towards each other then I can last way way more longer.

-Missionary. When im having sex in the frog pose, I could cum easily in 30 second even if it was after second, third or even fourth ejaculation.

-Doggystyle, I could cum easily IMMEDIDLY even if it was after second, third or even fourth ejaculation.

-Doggystyle. When my instep are in contact with the bed and my feet pointing inward, I can last maybe 1min wich is alot for me.

-Riding. I could cum in 1 minute even if it was after second , third or even fourth ejaculation.

-Ridind. I could last forever when my feet poiting out away from each other. (I tried this on morning second round. I havent tryi this on the first round yet)

Im 100% sure these poses help me for lasting longer . Without these poses I could cum immedidly even after second, third or fourth ejaculation.

Questions:
-What are the mechanics things in these poses above that helps me for lasting longer?

-Are there some muscle activation or relaxation from these poses above that helps me last longer?

[Anklepain Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Anklepain]

I just had sex again. We didnt had penetration but I came 2 times. First time I came when we were dry humping each other for very long time. Second time I came when I was fingering her as soon as she start to orgasm. Both time I was in staying in difficult position.

What exersice I have done lately:
-super alot of lats stretch
-super alot of hip flexor stretch
-little bit of perinium massage

Improvements:
-year ago I would cum just by dry humping my pillow. Now I can dry humping with a girl for very long time.
-2 week ago I came while fingering her without her getting orgasm. This time I came same time as her by fingering.

[Anklepain Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Anklepain]

I just had sex again. I came 3 times. 2 times at yesterday night. 1 time this morning.

1. First time in 10 second.
2. Second time in 1min
3. Third time (in morning) 15min

What I exersice I have done in past week:
- super alot glute kick machine
- super alot hamstring machine
- super alot inner thingh/adductor machine
- super alot inner thigh/adductor stretch
- super alot glutes stretch
- 200+ lower back "machine" workout 1 day before sex
- super alot calf stretch
- super alot massage gun on my perineum
- medium alot hip flexor stretch
- medium alot lats stretch
- little bit upper back workout

Conclusion:
- lats stretch make me pee more powerfull and many times I didnt need to kegel for peeing. Also I go to toilet less than before. I have notice this last week also when I did super alot lats stretch.
- smoking weed didnt help my Pre E.

Some suspicions:
- I did improve my adductor machine workout to 50kg x 20 reps. The maximum on that machine is 60kg. Do I really have weak adductor?
- I did improve my glute machine to 70kg x 20 reps. The maximum on that machine is 90kg. Do I really have weak glutes?
- I saw 3 other guys bigger than me on the gym and they do the same weigh as me on the hamstring machine. Do I really have weak hamstring?

New plan:
- super alot gluteus maximus workout and stretchs
- super alot lats stretch

[Anthony Gerio N Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Anthony Gerio N]

Adductor machine is one of the most bullshit machines in gyms. You can do it while many other muscles are doing the job. Best thing for adductor is Copenhagen adductor exercise. Also Sumo squat hold for 30 to 60 secs while you push your thighs out and stay at 90 degrees angle between your shin and your legs while do not bend your torso forward.

[Anklepain Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Anklepain]

I just had sex again! I came 5 times. 3 time last night. 1 time this morning. 1 time this night.

1. I came in 10 second with blow job.
2. I came in 30 second with sex.
3. I came in 2 min with sex.
4. I came in 1 min with sex.
5. I last for about 20min.

Exercises I have done in the past week:
-Super alot copenhagen adduction
-Super alot Sumo squat
-Super alot glute max exersice
-little bit upper hamstring exersice
-super alot adductor stretch
-super alot glute max stretch
-medium alot hamstring stretch
-super alot inner thight stretch
-medium alot hip flexor stretch
-little bit lower back stretch

What I had learn from lasting 20min in sex:
-Not crunching my teeth together makes me last longer. I can go medium fast with this tactic in missionary. Maybe I need to have sex with my mouth open. This is the normal way for female having sex anyway when they are screaming while having sex. Need to tryi this next time.

-keeping my leg and feet streight helps me last longer in misdionary.

[Anklepain Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Anklepain]

Not gonna lie, the whole desensitising part i wouldn't recommend... I mean do you really wanna fix PE by not feeling anything?

Try this instead 1) hit the gym & set a treadmill to max incline and just walk at a fast pace for 10-20min WITHOUT holding onto anything (your ass, hamstrings and probably your lower back should be burning real good). 2) start doing a hell of a lot of hanging leg raises and just core work in general (just dont be an ego lifter, have a look at youtube how to do it properly)

These days i just smash a girl like its a porn movie and those two exercises completely eliminated the need for RKs or any type of pelvic floor stretching. Funny how a few years ago or so i'd bust a nut in a single stroke haha! Lasting a long time in bed is nothing to do with your actual cock, you're being short-sighted if you ask me.

Try those two exercises for a few weeks and try it out in the bedroom.

I just read some old posts from this Diary and I found this post from Andrewii7. I realise that I had never tried treadmill max incline. I did google what is treadmill but forget to google what is incline.

Andrewii7 if you read this please tell me is this legit exersice anymore. I just want to save my times, energy and will power for exersices that you know for sure works for you.

I have exersice d my glute, gamstring and lower back like crazy with other gym machines but havent have any results. Should I tryi treadmill max incline?