My pre e diary. Make it simple.

[Ben Bull Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Ben Bull]

I’m aware of that, but I can’t force myself to believe I won’t have PE.

Well, after two days of stretching I gave it a go with the fleshlight. I’m tired and it’s the end of the day so I just put on some realistic porn and tried standing doggy.

If anything, it seemed worse. Although usually, I don’t use porn or think sexually until further into the fleshlight exercise, it still seemed unusually quickly intense.

However, I had many moments where it seemed like the PONR, but I didn’t cum, I just relaxed and slowed down. I know that if I’d tried to continue a regular rhythm, I would’ve cum straight away.

I just couldn’t lower my arousal, so I was bouncing off the PONR for about 2 minutes and then ejaculated.

Disappointing, but there we go. Not sure how to overcome this arousal problem. I’m sure I’d be fine if I could.

[Anklepain Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Anklepain]

I’m aware of that, but I can’t force myself to believe I won’t have PE.

Well, after two days of stretching I gave it a go with the fleshlight. I’m tired and it’s the end of the day so I just put on some realistic porn and tried standing doggy.

If anything, it seemed worse. Although usually, I don’t use porn or think sexually until further into the fleshlight exercise, it still seemed unusually quickly intense.

However, I had many moments where it seemed like the PONR, but I didn’t cum, I just relaxed and slowed down. I know that if I’d tried to continue a regular rhythm, I would’ve cum straight away.

I just couldn’t lower my arousal, so I was bouncing off the PONR for about 2 minutes and then ejaculated.

Disappointing, but there we go. Not sure how to overcome this arousal problem. I’m sure I’d be fine if I could.

Forget to tell you that Everytime my edging session gone worst after sitting too long. And everytime I stretches before stretches it will go well. I dont know why. And I can not just eliminate sitting from rest of my life. Even sitting in lotus pose doesnt improve my edging time. Maybe I need to sit in the better posture or something. Can somebody teach me how to sit?

[Ben Bull Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Ben Bull]

Forget to tell you that Everytime my edging session gone worst after sitting too long. And everytime I stretches before stretches it will go well. I dont know why. And I can not just eliminate sitting from rest of my life. Even sitting in lotus pose doesnt improve my edging time. Maybe I need to sit in the better posture or something. Can somebody teach me how to sit?

Thanks for your advice. Well, it was an interesting experience. We didn’t have sex because she wanted to be ‘sensible’, but next time she definitely will. My foreplay and dry humping skills were outta this world - kinda shocked myself tbh. She’s obsessed now. This has increased the pressure to perform well next time, because now I know she’s expecting amazing sex.

I had two beers before I got in bed with her. I only became erect a couple of times, and never greatly so. I’ve never had an issue with erectile dysfunction before, and I certainly wasn’t using kegels to try and get hard, I was just relaxed. Maybe it was the beer, maybe it was just that I was relaxed, no idea. Even when I was dry humping her like a champ, I was only semi hard and I never came close to cumming, obviously. Maybe I would have done if I was fully erect.

[Anklepain Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Anklepain]

Thanks for your advice. Well, it was an interesting experience. We didn’t have sex because she wanted to be ‘sensible’, but next time she definitely will. My foreplay and dry humping skills were outta this world - kinda shocked myself tbh. She’s obsessed now. This has increased the pressure to perform well next time, because now I know she’s expecting amazing sex.

I had two beers before I got in bed with her. I only became erect a couple of times, and never greatly so. I’ve never had an issue with erectile dysfunction before, and I certainly wasn’t using kegels to try and get hard, I was just relaxed. Maybe it was the beer, maybe it was just that I was relaxed, no idea. Even when I was dry humping her like a champ, I was only semi hard and I never came close to cumming, obviously. Maybe I would have done if I was fully erect.

Contractulation! Dry humping is not easy. I remember one day I was dry humping my blanked And I came 4 time in under 20 min (each time I didnt came all out, thats why I could continue after ejaculations). And I didnt watch porn at all in that humping sesssion. Now I can dry hump my blanked as long as want.

I would recommend you to stop sitting or sit less. And stretche everyday. But just before sex I would boost the stretches to maybe 8 x 2min per muscle.

[andrewvi7 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close andrewvi7]

Thanks for your advice. Well, it was an interesting experience. We didn’t have sex because she wanted to be ‘sensible’, but next time she definitely will. My foreplay and dry humping skills were outta this world - kinda shocked myself tbh. She’s obsessed now. This has increased the pressure to perform well next time, because now I know she’s expecting amazing sex.

I had two beers before I got in bed with her. I only became erect a couple of times, and never greatly so. I’ve never had an issue with erectile dysfunction before, and I certainly wasn’t using kegels to try and get hard, I was just relaxed. Maybe it was the beer, maybe it was just that I was relaxed, no idea. Even when I was dry humping her like a champ, I was only semi hard and I never came close to cumming, obviously. Maybe I would have done if I was fully erect.

Suggest starting your own thread mate. I was going to put some info to comment/help, but this thread is for the benefit of the OP - Anklepain, not you. PE is a issue that takes a good while to fix and people will need to see a lot of info, and have regular discussions to help. No one is going to do that on another persons post.

Forget to tell you that Everytime my edging session gone worst after sitting too long. And everytime I stretches before stretches it will go well. I dont know why. And I can not just eliminate sitting from rest of my life. Even sitting in lotus pose doesnt improve my edging time. Maybe I need to sit in the better posture or something. Can somebody teach me how to sit?

Depends where your PE stems from really. Something to try could be to stop using the back rest when you sit and make sure your back is always upright BUT keep your ribs down (as in don't over extend your lower back). This will force you to keep your core engaged throughout the day, and an engaged core/TVA will put more pressure on the pelvic floor which can help you RK for prolonged periods while sitting. Can can help fight against pelvic floor muscle shortening, just make sure you're ok with relaxing your PF while sitting like that. Just an idea.

[Anklepain Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Anklepain]

Havent have morning woods for 3 day now. I believe this is the good sign. I personally dont believe that morning woods is something healthy thing.

[Anklepain Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Anklepain]

17.06 .2019 the best edge session I ever had! I personally dont like the word "edging" because I didnt do it slow or take it easy. I literlaly fuck my hand and I enjoyed it with the 9 to 9.5 arousal plateu level for 20 min without ejaculation . This eding session was with porn and sound on + hard rock EQ + 9-9.5 arousal + imagination about having sex in that porn scene.

The key for this success is making your belly as big as possible including lower belly. The belly should be big all the time while you edge. Dont do any belly breathing or deep breathing or something like that. Just breath normally and make your belly big like balloon. This is easy with standing and on your knees. Laying down and making belly big is super hard.

@willgetbetter is right. You need to learn how to edge in many different position.

@soon2behuge and @acpreE and some others members here are also correct about this relation between tensing abs and premature ejaculation.

[ACPreE Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ACPreE]

@soon2behuge and @acpreE and some others members here are also correct about this relation between tensing abs and premature ejaculation.

Discovered that feeling one night smoking and edging. When you relax your abs, it releases some tension on the front PF. Now i'm not an expert but it seems APT is tight quads and weak core/lower abs. Now if you have a gut, like me, and suck in your stomach most of the time, even when not thinking about it, you always are tensing your front PF. I feel the reason i suck in my gut is because I don't have a tight stomach to do it for me.

Exercising and having a strong core/lower abs helps to allow you to relax your stomach naturally
Which also helps to counteract APT

Interested to see how many others find that they tense their lower abs or suck in their stomach as well.

Side note though, when you say when you pushed your belly out, when i do it, i feel like my pf is doing a RK. So you maybe just doing a RK the whole time when you push your belly out but kind of the same concept just on the extreme end. Sucking in tenses PF, pushing out loosens PF

[Anklepain Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Anklepain]

Discovered that feeling one night smoking and edging. When you relax your abs, it releases some tension on the front PF. Now i'm not an expert but it seems APT is tight quads and weak core/lower abs. Now if you have a gut, like me, and suck in your stomach most of the time, even when not thinking about it, you always are tensing your front PF. I feel the reason i suck in my gut is because I don't have a tight stomach to do it for me.

Yes I did have super tight outer quads but I have been stretching and foam rolling them everyday over 2 weeks now (I call them IT Band stretches in this tread). This help me for dry humping my blanked as long as I want. I tried to edge with my hand and ponr came in 2-3 minutes.

I also suck in my stomach throuhoug the day and I dont know why. Maybe I subconsciously want to hide my big stomach and looking lean?? Or maybe is the tight belt im wearing?? Or maybe it is this ATP thing like you said.

Side note though, when you say when you pushed your belly out, when i do it, i feel like my pf is doing a RK. So you maybe just doing a RK the whole time when you push your belly out but kind of the same concept just on the extreme end. Sucking in tenses PF, pushing out loosens PF

Im not sure about RK at all. I didnt feel my EQ or arousal drops like many here in this forum describing from RK. I have been tried many times RK while edging but never have been succeed. The only thing I did differently yesterday was making belly big. And as soon as my stomach sucking in and tensing even just little bit I felt ponr was coming.

Ps. Your arm is going to hit your stomach when you edge with making belly big. And laying down while making belly big is super difficult. I would start edging with standing or on your knees.

[soon2bhuge Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close soon2bhuge]

Side note though, when you say when you pushed your belly out, when i do it, i feel like my pf is doing a RK. So you maybe just doing a RK the whole time when you push your belly out but kind of the same concept just on the extreme end. Sucking in tenses PF, pushing out loosens PF

To me, this makes sense. Imagine the huge difference! First you used to tense up and kegel all the time but then you not only stop that but you REVERSE it into RK all the time!

I also suck in my stomach throuhoug the day and I dont know why. Maybe I subconsciously want to hide my big stomach and looking lean?? Or maybe is the tight belt im wearing?? Or maybe it is this ATP thing like you said.

I'm also trying to find out the reason why I suck my stomach in so often. I'm not fat, so there's nothing to hide really. Could be APT, but could also be psychological for sure, like we want to protect ourselves or something like that, and then it turns into a habit.

I mentioned it before but Youtuber Elliott Hulse talks a LOT about how body and mind are connected and how especially your chest/stomach/pelvic area affects your mind and vice versa, highly recommend watching some of his clips!

[Anklepain Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Anklepain]

My new daily routine. Make it even more simple!

2 x min outer quad stretchs
2 x min TFL strechs
Belly balloonning throuhoug the day
Belly drumming 3-5min (1 youtube music video)

Im not including abs workout because i have done it before without any succeed. Also tried glute and hamstring work out without any succeed. Also arousal control is something I did not get any succeed.

Outer quad stretch is something I get succeed for dry humping from day 1. TFL stretch make my hip flexor and outer quat stay relaxed from day 1. Belly balloon while edging get me succeed from day 1. I continue doing what works and eliminate everything that didnt work for me.

[ACPreE Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ACPreE]

My new daily routine. Make it even more simple!

2 x min outer quad stretchs
2 x min TFL strechs
Belly balloonning throuhoug the day
Belly drumming 3-5min (1 youtube music video)

Im not including abs workout because i have done it before without any succeed. Also tried glute and hamstring work out without any succeed. Also arousal control is something I did not get any succeed.

Outer quad stretch is something I get succeed for dry humping from day 1. TFL stretch make my hip flexor and outer quat stay relaxed from day 1. Belly balloon while edging get me succeed from day 1. I continue doing what works and eliminate everything that didnt work for me.

That works but you also have to understand too, just because something doesn't work from day 1 doesn't mean it wont or show results later. Some stretches/exercises take time to show results. It took me a couple weeks to be able to RK but I didn't stop it because it didn't work. Hell after 3+ months I didn't stop and discovered i wasn't fully doing front RKs.

Just saying I wouldn't skimp on the Core and ab workouts as well.

[soon2bhuge Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close soon2bhuge]

Ankle, I just had a spontaneous edging session (hands + visual stimulation, lying down). 2-3 times, I pushed my stomach out really hard, and when it didn't go out any further I added a reverse kegeled as well.

I usually edge with fleshlight so this is not a "scientifically accurate" comparison, but I felt like I could last forever and there were no signs of PONR whatsoever. It was almost a feeling of numbness in my penis.

I have been doing a lot of stomach stretches the last few days so it probably helped to max out my gut. I'm sure by sticking it out like that you have no choice but to reverse kegel, I mean that thing ballooned up so much that my pelvic floor just had to expand as well.

I think we're on the right track guys!

edit: also, my arousal didn't seem to rise up like usual. it just kinda floated somewhere between 6-8 I'd say

[Anklepain Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Anklepain]

Ankle, I just had a spontaneous edging session (hands + visual stimulation, lying down). 2-3 times, I pushed my stomach out really hard, and when it didn't go out any further I added a reverse kegeled as well.

Laying down + "belly ballooning" is still difficult for me. Nice to hear that you can do it. Did you push your stomatch only 2-3 out? My whole original idea was staying in that stomatch pushed out entire edging time. But never mind, do what works.

I usually edge with fleshlight so this is not a "scientifically accurate" comparison, but I felt like I could last forever and there were no signs of PONR whatsoever. It was almost a feeling of numbness in my penis.

Yep, same feeling from me, could last forever and no sign of ponr. And yes almost numbness feeling in penis. Im agree with you that fleshlight is maybe going to be different. That is why im now hoping that @ACPreE really truly understand what we are talking about and could perfomance correctly this "belly ballooning" in real sex with his wife to make sure this is going to work in real sex also. I really hope so!

edit: also, my arousal didn't seem to rise up like usual. it just kinda floated somewhere between 6-8 I'd say

I had spontaneus session today also. Arousal were at 7 and I started to pushed my stomatch out and it stayed in 7 entire session. I think you need to start with 9-9.5 arousal and it will stay in that level if you want more pleasure entire session. Im not 100% about this, need to have more experience on this.

[Anklepain Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Anklepain]

That works but you also have to understand too, just because something doesn't work from day 1 doesn't mean it wont or show results later. Some stretches/exercises take time to show results. It took me a couple weeks to be able to RK but I didn't stop it because it didn't work. Hell after 3+ months I didn't stop and discovered i wasn't fully doing front RKs.

Just saying I wouldn't skimp on the Core and ab workouts as well.

I did get tired from pushing stomach out while edging. Im going to add abs work out to my daily routine. Still having excellent controll from edging with very fast speed but im having little bit trouble with super fast speed.