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  • #31
    Originally posted by zunamary View Post
    Did you use the meditative kegel while having sex as well? RK when breathing in and relaxing when breathing out? Or just had sex normally without thinking on that?
    I had sex without thinking about it or focusing on my breathing at all. I think focusing on it while using the FL has helped.

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    • #32
      @imac: thanks, Ill do it with back rk then, since i find it easier.

      @bautista: maybe what imac said in the op happened, now the body is used to the motion an being relaxed, so its unconciously hapenning

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      • #33
        I tried this yesterday for around 10minutes I think it's great. Can I replace my kegel routine with this since I am now focusing on reverse kegels?
        Vivii
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        Last edited by Vivii; 11-25-2012, 11:19 AM.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Vivii View Post
          I tried this yesterday for around 10minutes I think it's great. Can I replace my kegel routine with this since I am now focusing on reverse kegels?
          If you're only doing reverse kegels at the moment then I'd say it's fine to substitute a reverse kegel routine for this, especially since I've been getting such good feedback.

          Eventually you'll have to reintroduce kegels into you're routine once you've dealt with your Pre e in order to create a strong and balanced pelvic floor but in the mean time I see this as good substitute for a reverse kegel routine.
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          • #35
            Imac im doing this trough all the day. Lets say im watching tv and i get aware of my breathing. Then ill do this metho gor a while, then stop, and like that the whole day. Can this lead to overtrain pc muscle, and have some negative effects? Or the contrary, is thi way better since by doin it thru the whole day in smaller doses ill make this natural to my body afterwards?

            Thanks in andvance.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by zunamary View Post
              Imac im doing this trough all the day. Lets say im watching tv and i get aware of my breathing. Then ill do this metho gor a while, then stop, and like that the whole day. Can this lead to overtrain pc muscle, and have some negative effects? Or the contrary, is thi way better since by doin it thru the whole day in smaller doses ill make this natural to my body afterwards?

              Thanks in andvance.
              I don't see you overtraining with this because you're not doing any hard RK's, just light gentle pushes kinda like you are breathing with your pelvic floor so I can't imagine this giving you any negative effects because you're focusing on relaxation of the pelvic floor.

              Doing this throughout the day whenever you become aware of your breathing could be another good way of training your body and mind to make this an unconscious habit.

              Thanks for all the feedback guys.
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              Reverse Kegel Breathing (Meditative Reverse Kegels)

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              • #37
                Nice to know about the progress you guys are making through deep breathing and reverse kegal. I have also been doing the same since few weeks now. Now I can edge for more than 20 minutes nonstop without any PONR whereas in the past I used to reach first PONR quickly. I feel motivated after reading progress of TruCamp and bautista19 specially.
                sameel
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                Last edited by sameel; 11-25-2012, 03:16 PM.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by sameel View Post
                  Nice to know about the progress you guys are making through deep breathing and reverse kegal. I have also been doing the same since few weeks now. Now I can edge for more than 20 minutes nonstop without any PONR whereas in the past I used to reach first PONR quickly. I feel motivated after reading progress of TruCamp and bautista19 specially.
                  Every other technique felt so unnatural and pretty contrived. The deep breathing obviously goes hand-in-hand with the overall arousal. It's just a good method to lower that. Relaxation I think is critical. It was incredibly tough for me to achieve though as I didn't see any consistent progress for 4 months.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by bautista19 View Post
                    Every other technique felt so unnatural and pretty contrived. The deep breathing obviously goes hand-in-hand with the overall arousal. It's just a good method to lower that. Relaxation I think is critical. It was incredibly tough for me to achieve though as I didn't see any consistent progress for 4 months.
                    How much role FL STU played in curing you? I don't have one and it is not available in my country.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by sameel View Post
                      How much role FL STU played in curing you? I don't have one and it is not available in my country.
                      I'm not sure that much. It's good to use for practice, but only if you have already know what you are practicing.

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                      • #41
                        Please see the Quick Breathing or quick pushes performed by a yogi in the following link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DblRARkYYhU
                        I have done this for few times today and seems a good way to exercise the pelvic floor.

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                        • #42
                          Had the best sex ever yesterday. Lately I've always ejaculated really fast, usually around 1-2min, and then go for round 2 and last forever with that.

                          This time, I didn't ejaculate prematurely on first round. Things I've been doing for this:

                          - AOA program, (edging once every week or 2 weeks, not watching porn or anything arousal), altough I still feel horny and with high arousal levels on the streets, and naughty thoughts come from time to time.
                          - Meditative reverse kegels, did it always with back reverse kegels, but yesterday, I tried some with front reverse kegels, which I noticed I had really tense, so this might be really important (noticing if you're getiing your front or your back area tensed, thus working on that).
                          - Improved my confidence in myself overall, by not worrying about pre-e and spending times doing things I like and things to improve my life.
                          - Didn't have perform anxiety. Was relaxed and didn't concern if I ejaculated prematurely this time, because I knew I could go for round 2.
                          - Edged with a technique that some guys said made them become Delayed Ejaculators. It consists on flexing your body and toes backwards, and edgin/masturbating this way. Somewhat like this:

                          http://www.claudiafriedlander.com/.a...4985970c-300wi

                          I had sex for around 20 mins, fast and hard. Noticed that first minute is the most crucial one. I went really slow with it and relaxed. I did have trouble to ejaculate, which could mean I'm becoming DE, but I'm fine with that. I couldn't cum trough sex, but instead and as I found out another day, I can cum from balooning my frenullum, and this is what I did. Not sure if I am "cured", since this is the first time this happens, but just wanted to share with you guys my story.

                          Hope this helps anyone

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by imac View Post
                            Reverse Kegel Breathing (Meditative Reverse Kegels)

                            This is a technique for applying reverse kegels during sex to relax your pelvic floor muscles without having to think or focus on it.

                            The point is to practice this technique out of sex so that it becomes second nature when actually having sex.

                            So on to the technique... It’s really rather simple.

                            1. Make yourself comfortable because you’re going to be in that position for at least 10-15 min or maybe even longer, It’s really quite relaxing.

                            2. Once you’re comfortable begin to focus on your breathing (slow deep breaths) and on your IN breath push a light reverse kegel and then on your OUT breath relax.

                            3. There is no 3. It’s that simple, just keep focusing on your breathing and doing step 2. If your mind wanders just bring it back.

                            When doing this technique during sex or edging it will help keep your muscles in a neutral state.

                            Do this from the start and all the way through BEFORE you reach the PONR.

                            Like I said at the start, if you practice this regularly out of sex you won’t even need to think about doing it during sex you’ll be able to do it unconsciously. Plus like all meditation it has the added benefit of reducing stress which can also be a factor in Pre E.

                            Pelvic Floor Balance

                            Hey iMac, I found a pose that will increase the deepness of this Meditative Reverse Kegels. It is a simple yoga pose called Siddhasana (Male Accomplished Pose). It will take the exercise to a whole new meditative level. Furthermore, it is also a pelvic floor stretcher that makes you much more aware and connected to your pelvic floor area.

                            Take a look, try it, and if you find it helpful indeed, consider including it on the first post! It is great: http://www.yogaartandscience.com/pos...Siddhasana.jpg

                            It has to be done correctly, which is leaving your ankle upward, instep facing the ground, knees touching the ground and very erect posture.
                            MarcusHa
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                            Last edited by MarcusHa; 12-14-2012, 10:03 AM.

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                            • #44
                              I think it's best if people just find the position their most comfortable with and allows them to relax the best, for me if I do this, the position I choose is laying on my back with my feet a bit more that shoulder width apart.

                              I don't want to start dictating what poses guys should do the exercise in, there's no correct or incorrect form. Just what everyone finds most relaxing and I'll leave that up to the individual.
                              On a break from the forum
                              imac's Phallosan Forte Progress Log
                              Pelvic Floor Balance
                              Confusion With Reverse Kegels

                              Reverse Kegel Breathing (Meditative Reverse Kegels)

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by imac View Post
                                I think it's best if people just find the position their most comfortable with and allows them to relax the best, for me if I do this, the position I choose is laying on my back with my feet a bit more that shoulder width apart.

                                I don't want to start dictating what poses guys should do the exercise in, there's no correct or incorrect form. Just what everyone finds most relaxing and I'll leave that up to the individual.
                                You are right about that. But since it is a type of meditation, even if focused on just breathing and reverse kegeling, I think that embracing some of buddhistic meditation technics would help a lot. If you do some research on chakra meditation, you'll notice that some of them aim to "open" a certain chakra, if you need it to be opened. There are two of them that directly relates to sexual health. They say you have to imagine energy expanding from the chakra - if you need to "relax" it. Soon you should feel the sensation physically.

                                Of course it all comes from another culture, so maybe most of the terms and ways they explain something have a different approach. I read a thread only about chakra meditation and premature ejaculation. The guy said he could "fix" himself very easily (link below). Meditating made him much more aware of an area that he never paid attention to. Somehow it looks like what we say in here.

                                - For example, when we say "pelvic floor balance" they say "harmonize the fire chakra": Curing Premature Ejaculation by Harmonizing the Fire Chakra | Premature Ejaculation Tips

                                - And while we do "reverse kegels" they focus on "moving energy to another chakra" - and the idea is to relax it, otherwise they would move energy to the chakra: A cure to premature ejaculation. - Grasscity.com Forums

                                (...)

                                So the idea is not to dictate anything, but to point the most beneficial ways of doing it.

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